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Subject: winga...
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Do you use 2 separate cues? One to break and one for play?

Just wondering.


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When I was in league yes.  Our team had a player that was well off so he let us use his $300+ break cue and I used my crappy graphite cue after the break.  I never bring my cue to the bar unless it's league though.  You don't want to really use your main cue for breaking as it slowly but surely effs of the tip (and shaft lulz.)

Edit: iirc your pink cue is very similar in type to mine... which is technically a break cue. How wide is the tip on your cue?

 

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I can use my cue as a break cue - I just don't. Don't wanna eff up my tip or warp my shaft. After playing with house cues at the bars I go to I'd be pissed if I did that to my cue.

I was just wondering cause the bf and I were looking at cues the other day and I was thinking about picking up a break cue - however I was wondering whether or not I should get a heavier cue than my normal playing cue? But I think I answered that question - I play with a 20, and use a 21 to break.

But then again, I don't wanna tote another cue with my main cue, my purse, my jacket, etc, everywhere I go plain

Edit - yeah, it's a cuetec, so iirc it's pretty much the same as yours?

 

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I can use my cue as a break cue - I just don't. Don't wanna eff up my tip or warp my shaft. After playing with house cues at the bars I go to I'd be pissed if I did that to my cue.

I was just wondering cause the bf and I were looking at cues the other day and I was thinking about picking up a break cue - however I was wondering whether or not I should get a heavier cue than my normal playing cue? But I think I answered that question - I play with a 20, and use a 21 to break.

But then again, I don't wanna tote another cue with my main cue, my purse, my jacket, etc, everywhere I go plain

Edit - yeah, it's a cuetec, so iirc it's pretty much the same as yours?


Well you could get a break cue but whenever one isn't available I always just use the heaviest bar cue ... Doesn't matter if it's warped to crap as long as it has a functional tip. Not like you're going to try and masse a break or something. But carrying around 2 cue's isn't that big of a deal. There are tons of cases made for 2 cues. But I don't see the point unless you're going to be using it all the time.

I keep forgetting that you bring your cue to the bar so you most likely get a LOT more use out of it than I do so it "might" be worth it but it's ultimately more of a frivolous purchase. Having a great cue only does so much for your game.

And yes I have a cuetec... don't recall the model but I believe we had this discussion before and your's was basically the girly version of mine.

As for the weight of the cue that's based more on preference. Typically the break cue is heavier and can put out slightly more force. But I doubt you regularly fire balls off the table while breaking and require some modified heavy ass cue. 19, 21, whatever. We're not talking about pounds we're talking about ounces so it's not a crazy difference.

 

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Why am I not surprised that winga played in a league for a game that is usually played while intoxicated...and that RC is asking him questions about it?

 

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RC: If you decide that you want to play in tournaments and make it a paying hobby then I could see getting a break cue and jump cue (or at least the attachment.) But if you're just playing for fun then I wouldn't bother with a break cue. I'd get a better playing cue long before getting a break cue.

 

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My father practices with Larry Nevel on nearly a nightly basis. He is about on par with him skill wise.

Having said that both of them use a separate break cue. I doubt many people break hard enough to "need" a separate break cue.

When these guys break they drive the cue tip into the table and the entire stick bows.

 

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Jyiiga posted:
My father practices with Larry Nevel on a nearly a nightly basis. He is about on par with him skill wise.

Having said that both of them use a separate break cue. I doubt many people break hard enough to "need" a separate break cue.

When these guys break they drive the cue tip into the table and the entire stick bows.

I don't see RC or me reaching that level... ever. I also assume their main cue for after the break is somewhere in the $1500-$2500 range.

Edit: That's assuming they don't have like 4-5 cue's with them each time they go out.

 

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Dark_EternalFF posted:
Why am I not surprised that winga played in a league for a game that is usually played while intoxicated...and that RC is asking him questions about it?


Because I play a game that is usually played while intoxicated and my acf friendship with winga developed because of it and the fact that we both drink a bunch and play pool? :P


My original post got wiped out when I tried posting cause my work computer hates me - forgot to mention I always break with house cues. Or did I mention that? No idea.

I can feel the difference in a cue thats 19oz vs 21oz. Slight difference, but the lighter the cue the more it throws off my game.

Side note: most of the bars I go to here have crap-ass cues. Either that or they have a table but no cues. Thus why I bring mine everywhere... And also probably cause I take after my father who takes his cue everywhere.

 

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DOUBLE POST FTL.


 

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Subject: winga...
Rockerchickie007 posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Why am I not surprised that winga played in a league for a game that is usually played while intoxicated...and that RC is asking him questions about it?


Because I play a game that is usually played while intoxicated and my acf friendship with winga developed because of it and the fact that we both drink a bunch and play pool? :P


My original post got wiped out when I tried posting cause my work computer hates me - forgot to mention I always break with house cues. Or did I mention that? No idea.

I can feel the difference in a cue thats 19oz vs 21oz. Slight difference, but the lighter the cue the more it throws off my game.

Side note: most of the bars I go to here have crap-ass cues. Either that or they have a table but no cues. Thus why I bring mine everywhere... And also probably cause I take after my father who takes his cue everywhere.




Well if you literally don't have any option but to use your main cue then yah, I could see getting a case that holds 2 cue's and a break cue but don't pay any more for that than your main cue. Or you could get a new main cue and use your current one as a break cue... If I get another cue my current one will take over as the break cue.

My problem at the bar is there are no tips on the cues plain

Lastly, I'm far from shocked that you can tell the difference from 19-21. They definitely affect how you hit the ball. But that said unless you have some skilled master break that sinks the 8 every time or sinks a few of one type and leaves you set up then you could probably pull off a decent break no matter what the weight of the cue. Staying consistent definitely helps though.

Edit: should probably clarify... imo the weight doesn't matter quite as much for the break as it does for after the break. Like you I prefer a heavy break cue but have gotten quite used to using anything from 17 and up since the cues at all of the bars suck and almost all of the 21's get broken.

 

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You guys are super intense...


The 'house' ones have always been good enough for me...

 

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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
You guys are super intense...


The 'house' ones have always been good enough for me...

I'm at the point where if I find a cue with a well shaped tip I'll use that no matter what the weight... unless there is a chunk of wood missing from the base or a crack that is.

The bar with the largest selection of cues (20-30) to use has maybe 1 or 2 that actually have a decent tip and straight shaft. If the weight is around 20 you hit the jackpot because most likely the ONLY 20 is warped to hell and half the tip is broken off.

Whenever there are only cues with those big (seemingly) 2" wide tips my head explodes. Why would they even make those?

 

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winga posted:
Rockerchickie007 posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Why am I not surprised that winga played in a league for a game that is usually played while intoxicated...and that RC is asking him questions about it?


Because I play a game that is usually played while intoxicated and my acf friendship with winga developed because of it and the fact that we both drink a bunch and play pool? :P


My original post got wiped out when I tried posting cause my work computer hates me - forgot to mention I always break with house cues. Or did I mention that? No idea.

I can feel the difference in a cue thats 19oz vs 21oz. Slight difference, but the lighter the cue the more it throws off my game.

Side note: most of the bars I go to here have crap-ass cues. Either that or they have a table but no cues. Thus why I bring mine everywhere... And also probably cause I take after my father who takes his cue everywhere.




Well if you literally don't have any option but to use your main cue then yah, I could see getting a case that holds 2 cue's and a break cue but don't pay any more for that than your main cue. Or you could get a new main cue and use your current one as a break cue... If I get another cue my current one will take over as the break cue.

My problem at the bar is there are no tips on the cues plain

Lastly, I'm far from shocked that you can tell the difference from 19-21. They definitely affect how you hit the ball. But that said unless you have some skilled master break that sinks the 8 every time or sinks a few of one type and leaves you set up then you could probably pull off a decent break no matter what the weight of the cue. Staying consistent definitely helps though.

Edit: should probably clarify... imo the weight doesn't matter quite as much for the break as it does for after the break. Like you I prefer a heavy break cue but have gotten quite used to using anything from 17 and up since the cues at all of the bars suck and almost all of the 21's get broken.


The only reason I can "tell" is because I notice that with a heavier cue I play better ie: I have more control - I wasn't talking about my break. I just like using a slightly heavier cue for the way that I do break. If you saw it, you'd understand.

 

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winga posted:
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
You guys are super intense...


The 'house' ones have always been good enough for me...

I'm at the point where if I find a cue with a well shaped tip I'll use that no matter what the weight... unless there is a chunk of wood missing from the base or a crack that is.

The bar with the largest selection of cues (20-30) to use has maybe 1 or 2 that actually have a decent tip and straight shaft. If the weight is around 20 you hit the jackpot because most likely the ONLY 20 is warped to hell and half the tip is broken off.

Whenever there are only cues with those big (seemingly) 2" wide tips my head explodes. Why would they even make those?




Well that's all true.

I wouldn't walk onto a golf course with rental clubs, or house clubs, so I guess it depends on your attitude toward the activity


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When I play - I use a cue for breaking and a cue for play.

 

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Hawkson posted:
When I play - I use a cue for breaking and a cue for play.


Same cue? Seperate cue?

 

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Sorry, wasn't clear enough.

Different cues.

 

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Just wanted to verify.

My boyfriend's grandfather's late wife was a hoarder. Somewhere along the lines they obtained a ton of cues - gave him one and has offered a few to me. (Bf just told me this). Think I might take him up on this. They're all pretty new.

 

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Rockerchickie007 posted:
The only reason I can "tell" is because I notice that with a heavier cue I play better ie: I have more control - I wasn't talking about my break. I just like using a slightly heavier cue for the way that I do break. If you saw it, you'd understand.


I told you before! I require video... or a plane ticket and place to stay.

Also, I would definitely take him up on the offer too. Even if it's not great at least you'll have a consistent break cue.

 

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It's not even warped. The tip is kinda effed, but $15 at the shop will fix that.

EDIT - next time I play it's possible I can get video, we shall see.

 

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