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BJs paperback: $5.99
http://www.bjs.com/the-hunger-games-by-suzanne-collins.product.189549?dimId=

Costco paperback
doesnt sell it online, but in the store today it is $7.99

Barnes and Noble e-book $8.49
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hunger-games-suzanne-collins/1100171585?ean=9780439023528

amazon.com (FREE for prime members, $5.00 otherwise for the kindle edition)
http://www.amazon.com/The-Hunger-Games-ebook/dp/B002MQYOFW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332535861&sr=8-2

 

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thanks for the heads up- just got it on prime.

 

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Ebook prices are all over the place. Some publishing houses go with a wholesale model. They sell the book to the distributor and let the distributor set whatever price they want. Amazon will often sell these books at a loss to get people to purchase the Kindle and to keep them hooked. Other publishers operate on an agency model where they set the prices for their products and the distributor gets a percentage of the sale.

 

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for me, there is zero motivation to purchase the electronic version of said book, when i can get a hard copy for nearly the same price (of Amazon) at BJs. i dont have a kindle, i have a nook color

 

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I'm not sure about other products, but I've read in several writing/publishing trade journals that Amazon will sell several books and e-books (particularly genre writing) at a loss to try and corner the market. They had a lot to do with Borders folding based on this practice I read in Harpers. These evil practices can be forgiven a bit though, as they are relatively quite kind to self publishers and small press on their marketplace. Make no mistake, they want to be a monopoly and won't shed a single tear when there are no more physical bookstores left in America.

 

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B&N actually has the hardcover for just a dollar more, that's weird.

 

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thanks for the heads up- just got it on prime.

 

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Subject: hunger games and price oddities between physical and e-reader editions, much wtf...
the reason the ebooks end up more expensive some of the time is publishers have forced amazon to keep the price at a certain price in an effort to keep digital books from completely wiping out the paper book industry. amazon selling them for a loss as someone else said earlier was killing the business model for keeping both formats viable. walmart and target have sold physical books for a loss before as well but publishers haven't tried to crack down on that. Honestly it should be the DOJ that does that as selling for a loss on competitive items like that is considered predadory pricing and violates antitrust laws. its all about the big guy trying to knock everyone else out of business and its why you see few independent or even chain bookstores anymore.

 

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well, i mean look at the price @ BJs: $5.99, there's gotta be high oeverhead for physical shipping costs, even if you buy it at the store

 

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The free prime version is just a borrow, like you would from the library. It's $5 if you want to own it.

 

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either way, it's still in their cloud, just keep re-borrowing it...

 

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GrimTempest posted:
the reason the ebooks end up more expensive some of the time is publishers have forced amazon to keep the price at a certain price in an effort to keep digital books from completely wiping out the paper book industry. amazon selling them for a loss as someone else said earlier was killing the business model for keeping both formats viable. walmart and target have sold physical books for a loss before as well but publishers haven't tried to crack down on that. Honestly it should be the DOJ that does that as selling for a loss on competitive items like that is considered predadory pricing and violates antitrust laws. its all about the big guy trying to knock everyone else out of business and its why you see few independent or even chain bookstores anymore.


Actually, the DOJ is looking into Apple and a number of publishers for colluding to raise the price of ebooks.

 

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yup. i know. i posted about that elsewhere last week. i won't repeat the rant here but it went something along the lines of someone is in someones pocket for them to ignore one and not the other.

 

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Seems like a stupid reason to keep both viable. If we stayed with that line of thinking we would still be using VHS tapes.

 

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you can't compare it like vhs to dvd. thats like comparing mass market paperbacks to quality paperbacks.

a better comparison would be comparing dvd to streaming. one is a physical copy the other is a digital only.

 

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On the one hand I don't want them to stop making physical books because I love them, but on the other hand it's hard to justify paying a similar cost for something with vastly different production costs. I don't see why I should pay the same for a fancy word document as I would pay for a book.

You make the digital file available once vs. books you're talking about a nationwide distribution network with retailers, overhead, transportation, etc. Would be nice if you got a free digital copy when you purchase the hard copy too.

 

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well they shot themselves in the foot when they decided to release ebook at the same time as hardcover. so they destroyed their hardcover sales. they should have pushed the ebook release dates out like they do paperback and then priced the ebooks similar to the paperbacks.

 

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http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/3870731b-c69e-48e8-a60e-ff55c4c4194f/the-hunger-games-by-suzanne-collins-ebook-kobo#47

 

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well they shot themselves in the foot when they decided to release ebook at the same time as hardcover. so they destroyed their hardcover sales. they should have pushed the ebook release dates out like they do paperback and then priced the ebooks similar to the paperbacks.


At the very least the hardcover should come with an ereader version.

 

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well they shot themselves in the foot when they decided to release ebook at the same time as hardcover. so they destroyed their hardcover sales. they should have pushed the ebook release dates out like they do paperback and then priced the ebooks similar to the paperbacks.
I'm surprised more publishers/distributors aren't requiring this. Kind of like big screen vs DVD release. Give the physical books time to disseminate before releasing the digital copy or at the very least put a premium on them (which seems to be hit or miss right now) until they go paperback.

 

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having watched the big publishing companies idiotic antics for the last decade i can honestly say its because they're all a bunch of morons. just about everything they've done in the past decade has done nothing but further sabotage themselves.

 

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my econ professor was talking about publishers wanting to eliminate printed books as much as possible.

why spend the money to print books, when you can charge the same thing for a digital file that takes no effort or cost to replicate.

 

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Get the kindel version and convert it to epub.

 

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why spend the money to print books...




Because then the authors actually need your money to distribute their story.

When e-books can be easily uploaded like user-made apps some of the dependency on publishers is eliminated.

 

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