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Atheists routinely focus on Christians as being bigots and anti-science. They tend to ignore the loving nature or Christianity. The spirit shown in the article is indicative of most Christians. This atheist had his eyes opened.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/03/22/texas-atheist-flabbergasted-by-outpouring-of-christian-charity/

 

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I know plenty of good people who happen to be Christians, and plenty of assholes who happen to be atheists.

And vice versa.

 

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Some people just spend much to much time on what others do and not enough on themselves

 

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You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Jesus understood this.

Matthew 4:19

"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."

 

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IF people would just be 'good' to each other and stfu about religion, it'd be ok with me.

If you need a 'god' to motivate you, you are not worthy of respect.



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Vice versa too. Not all atheists are bigots and anti-religion.

 

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Vice versa too. Not all atheists are bigots and anti-religion.
Of course not. I am an atheists and I am neither. The fringes always make the rest of us look bad.

 

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IF people would just be 'good' to each other and stfu about religion, it'd be ok with me.

If you need a 'god' to motivate you, you are not worthy of respect.



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I'm an atheist and I don't hate religious people.

I do hate when some religious people use their beliefs to try to create laws to limit everyone's freedom based upon what they think everyone should do...or not do.

Oh, and I also hate when people use "god said so" as a reason for anything.

In short, I hate religious nut bags, American Taliban and their ilk. Has nothing to do with their religion, has everything to do with them trying to force me to follow the tenets of their particular faith.

 

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I strongly doubt the motivations for your actions come solely from within.

We all have external pressures both real and imagined that shape our behavior.

Why do you have such an aversion to the idea of God?

How is believing in God any different than believing in justice or purpose?

Both are just as imagined.

 

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Nice to see people "walking the walk" so to speak.

It's good to have faith, but no one else will see or be affected by it if you don't act on it. Thanks for sharing. applause

 

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Ptilk posted:
I'm an atheist and I don't hate religious people.

I do hate when some religious people use their beliefs to try to create laws to limit everyone's freedom based upon what they think everyone should do...or not do.

Oh, and I also hate when people use "god said so" as a reason for anything.

In short, I hate religious nut bags, American Taliban and their ilk. Has nothing to do with their religion, has everything to do with them trying to force me to follow the tenets of their particular faith.
Exactly and well said old man.

 

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I strongly doubt the motivations for your actions come solely from within.

We all have external pressures both real and imagined that shape our behavior.

Why do you have such an aversion to the idea of God?

How is believing in God any different than believing in justice or purpose?

Both are just as imagined.



And then the crazy shows up.

 

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Ptilk posted:
I'm an atheist and I don't hate religious people.

I do hate when some religious people use their beliefs to try to create laws to limit everyone's freedom based upon what they think everyone should do...or not do.

Oh, and I also hate when people use "god said so" as a reason for anything.
This.

 

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Ptilk posted:
I'm an atheist and I don't hate religious people.

I do hate when some religious people use their beliefs to try to create laws to limit everyone's freedom based upon what they think everyone should do...or not do.

Oh, and I also hate when people use "god said so" as a reason for anything.

In short, I hate religious nut bags, American Taliban and their ilk. Has nothing to do with their religion, has everything to do with them trying to force me to follow the tenets of their particular faith.


I would suggest you and all who quoted you try loving those who do you and others a service as much as you hate those of you do you ill.

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"Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations."

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I would suggest you and all who quoted you try loving those who do you and others a service as much as you hate those of you do you ill.

peace
Speaking only for myself, I don't hate the people. I hate the actions they take.

 

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I quoted Ptilk, but I don't hate anyone. Its not in my make up to hate people.

 

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Me too. I am just a bundle of love.

 

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Clackdor posted:
Atheists routinely focus on Christians as being bigots and anti-science. They tend to ignore the loving nature or Christianity. The spirit shown in the article is indicative of most Christians. This atheist had his eyes opened.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/03/22/texas-atheist-flabbergasted-by-outpouring-of-christian-charity/
I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to think that no Atheists know these particular Christians. I bet a lot of Atheists know these Christians and I bet these Christians know a lot of Atheists.

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Interesting that all the Atheists in this thread are also the most angry outposters! While all the people of Faith here are the warm and fuzzy ones. angel

 

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I hate plenty of people. Can't think of any I hate simply because they are religious however. I don't think Christians in general are particularly bigoted or anti-science either.


 

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IF people would just be 'good' to each other and stfu about religion, it'd be ok with me.

If you need a 'god' to motivate you, you are not worthy of respect.

The door for you to leave the US is always open. Feel free to walk through it.

 

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Mastara posted:
The door for you to leave the US is always open. Feel free to walk through it.
You. I was here first.

 

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IF people would just be 'good' to each other and stfu about religion, it'd be ok with me.

If you need a 'god' to motivate you, you are not worthy of respect.



peace


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Then you all can deal with it. But neither I, nor my beliefs will ever go away

 

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I never said I hate people who do me ill, or that I don't love people who do good things for me. It usually doesn't really matter either way honestly. Crap done to or for me has little effect on me these days. Been there, done that, got bored, stopped paying attention.

I hate stupid people. I hate evil people. I don't care if their stupidity or evil personally affected me or not. I still hate them. And no, I don't think your opinion about how I should treat them means a damn thing. But thanks for offering it.

Oh, I also hate sanctimonious drivel, but not always the person spouting it. angel

 

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I don't know that I'd say it's indicative of 'most' of them, but I'd agree that there are quite a few Christians who are good people. Good people come from all walks of life. As do the dbags unfortunately. Thankfully my community has a larger contingent of the former than the latter - I love my little community.

And then sometimes you have the dbags who honestly believe they're righteously good... I see one in this thread.

 

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Mastara posted:
Then you all can deal with it.
I can mock you or ignore you, but I most certainly don't have to deal with it.

 

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Sure you do. Because there is basically nothing you can do to prevent me from speaking. Nor I, you.

 

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Nobody wants to stop you from speaking. You provide a lot of comedic relief.

 

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Mastara posted:
Sure you do. Because there is basically nothing you can do to prevent me from speaking. Nor I, you.
Why would I want you to stop speaking? It's your right to say whatever you want. I have no problem with your religion whatsoever. I want you to practice it all you want. As long as you don't push it on me. That's one of the most awesome things about this country.

Express yourself to your hearts content. I support you.

 

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Ptilk posted:
I'm an atheist and I don't hate religious people.

I do hate when some religious people use their beliefs to try to create laws to limit everyone's freedom based upon what they think everyone should do...or not do.

Oh, and I also hate when people use "god said so" as a reason for anything.

In short, I hate religious nut bags, American Taliban and their ilk. Has nothing to do with their religion, has everything to do with them trying to force me to follow the tenets of their particular faith.

 

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Clackdor posted:
These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.


They know about them, they just don't complain about them.

 

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Allstarslacker posted:
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Jesus understood this.

Matthew 4:19

"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."



The muslims do this in their part of the world too - they pay people to become muslim.

It works but people will do anything for money.

 

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Eager_Igraine posted:
Clackdor posted:
These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.


They know about them, they just don't complain about them.


I don't think that's true. I think many, if not most, atheists will dismiss this act as an anomaly and continue to think of Christians as bigots and idiots because they are uncomfortable with a challenge to their belief.

 

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Clackdor posted:
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These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.


They know about them, they just don't complain about them.


I don't think that's true. I think many, if not most, atheists will dismiss this act as an anomaly and continue to think of Christians as bigots and idiots because they are uncomfortable with a challenge to their belief.


That's because you're bigoted against atheists. dancing

 

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Clackdor posted:
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These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.


They know about them, they just don't complain about them.


I don't think that's true. I think many, if not most, atheists will dismiss this act as an anomaly and continue to think of Christians as bigots and idiots because they are uncomfortable with a challenge to their belief.
huh?

What 'belief' do Atheists have to be challenged?

I really don't think you understand what you are talking about.

An Atheist is a person without a belief in a God - hence the name 'A' without 'theist' belief in God. A Theist is a person with a belief in a God an Atheist is a person without a belief in a God.

How does one go about challenge the lack of something?

 

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What 'belief' do Atheists have to be challenged?

I really don't think you understand what you are talking about.

An Atheist is a person without a belief in a God - hence the name 'A' without 'theist' belief in God. A Theist is a person with a belief in a God an Atheist is a person without a belief in a God.

How does one go about challenge the lack of something?
A lot of people confuse atheism with a specific belief that there is no God of any kind, which (I think, at least, though I've neither seen nor heard the term used) would be anti-theist.

Believing that something doesn't exist, vs. not believing that something does exist, are two VERY different things.

 

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It is you, my friend, who does not understand. thinking

But that's OK. There is little hope in a mere internet chat board to stir such change in your life. peace

 

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It is you, my friend, who does not understand. thinking

But that's OK. There is little hope in a mere internet chat board to stir such change in your life. peace
laugh


Poor clack feels threatened by my apathy towards his chosen diety...



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Subject: These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.
reesescups posted:
Clackdor posted:
It is you, my friend, who does not understand. thinking

But that's OK. There is little hope in a mere internet chat board to stir such change in your life. peace
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Poor clack feels threatened by my apathy towards his chosen diety...



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And he's evidently a bigot too.. plain

Why is it so hard for some religious people to live as they blather?

 

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Subject: These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.
Christians think there is an unseen all powerful man that created everything and gave us life.

Current scientific belief is somehow mud gained life and eventually even gained consciousness.

Both ideas are ridiculous and completely unprovable at this point in history,but both sides act like their sides make perfect sense and the others are obviously blind and stupid.What is probably closest to the truth is we are all fools trying to explain something we can't,"Why am I here?".

 

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Subject: These are the Christians that Atheists don't know.
I'm an idontgiveashitheist.

 

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