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Strong message being sent by the league.

Sean Payton suspended for the year.

Saints to pay $500k fine, lose 2nd round draft picks in 2012 and 2013

Greg Williams (now with the Rams) to be suspended indefintely.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827c0dd9/article/nfl-suspends-saints-coach-payton-for-one-year-without-pay?module=HP11_headline_stack

 

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STOP HITTING INTO PEOPLE FOR MONEY NFL!!!!

 

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WOW! That's harsh! Way harsher than I expected

 

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holy smoke! shock

 

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This? WTF is it?? LOL is what.

 

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OMFG..... how hard did they slam her down.

Happy BIRTHDAY!!!!! we got you a concussion!

 

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If Goodell is this harsh on the Saints, that might mean Brandon Marshall won't play in another NFL game till he's 38 years old sad

Come on Roger, lighten up. It's a game. worried

 

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If Goodell is this harsh on the Saints, that might mean Brandon Marshall won't play in another NFL game till he's 38 years old sad

Come on Roger, lighten up. It's a game. worried


Lighten up, it'a a game?

They had bounties.... not for just the stuff for hard hits like probably every team does... BUT TO ACTUALLY INJURE AND TAKE PEOPLE OUT OF THE GAME.

Hell, I wouldn't be too surprised to see some lawsuits, player to player, to come out of this for getting injured during a game now.

 

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That just sounds like good old fashioned football to me.

Football players, trying to injure each other? I'm outraged!

 

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ikkoikki posted:
That just sounds like good old fashioned football to me.

Football players, trying to injure each other? I'm outraged!


LOL for real. It's kind of the object of the game to knock the snot out of people.

 

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ikkoikki posted:
If Goodell is this harsh on the Saints, that might mean Brandon Marshall won't play in another NFL game till he's 38 years old sad

Come on Roger, lighten up. It's a game. worried


i thought marshall was exonerated...so he should be good.

 

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ROFL!

 

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JD_HOGG posted:
ikkoikki posted:
That just sounds like good old fashioned football to me.

Football players, trying to injure each other? I'm outraged!


LOL for real. It's kind of the object of the game to knock the snot out of people.


Playing hard and playing to injure are two different things.

 

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Clean hits are allowed and illegal hits are punished, that's all I care about. The intent of the player is no business of mine.

 

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NFL had to come down this harsh on them, have to send the message especially in light of the lawsuits they are facing from older players.

 

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Clean hits are allowed and illegal hits are punished, that's all I care about. The intent of the player is no business of mine.




This x100000. If the player injured the person with a legal hit, then what's the problem? I can understand punishing someone for a "Suh" type hit, where there was no good intent and all the player wanted to do was take the other person out, but if it's a legal hit, and the guy gets hurt... that's football, man. If you don't like it, go play basketball or something.

 

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yeah lol holy crap the Saints are facing a katrina sized arsehumping.

 

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laugh This is pretty Draconian. What's he gonna do now, ban players for life?

 

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Good.

Eff the Saints.

 

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As a Falcons fan I like this.

 

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talk about beatup

 

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wow.


Roger just said on responding to a question about taking 7.5 MILLION DOLLARS away from Sean Peyton, that "well players could have been hurt"


Shouldn't he suspend all defensive players, then? since players could be hurt. Wow, lmao.

 

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I don't get it...

Stupid.

 

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Finally Goddell shows he has some balls for once

Good decision IMO, even though I am 100% positive most teams do the exact same thing. Hope it serves as a powerful example though

Also I am a Panthers fan, so I support this heavily.

 

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put the patriots!!! they're the villans!

 

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$500K fine is what, 1/2 of what the worst player on the team makes? big woop!!

 

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I think Goodell is going to paint himself into a corner with the punishment he dishes out on the players involved.

Because that will set a benchmark for punishment just for intent to injure.

Which will mean any illegal hit can be labeled as intent to injure.

 

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i heard there is an actual paper trail to this too that has yet to be released.

i'm surprised there has been no info released tying injuries to payouts, but it's still early.

Goodell doesn't like to be lied to either, and they flat out lied to him before and during the investigation, shame on them.

 

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I think Goodell is going to paint himself into a corner with the punishment he dishes out on the players involved.

Because that will set a benchmark for punishment just for intent to injure.

Which will mean any illegal hit can be labeled as intent to injure.


With Goodell it's never about precedent or benchmarks, it's about him waking up each morning and arbitrarily deciding which infractions and which players/teams he's going to paint a target on that day.

It wasn't that long ago (Oct '08) that a league VP promised to look into Terrell Suggs' radio comment admitting to the bounties on Mendenhall and Ward after Lewis broke Mendenhall's collarbone and knocked him out for the season. Outcome of that "investigation": Fines: Zero. Suspensions: Zero. Sternly worded letters: Zero. Nor was there any response to Brian Billick's comments that the worst part of Suggs' admission was not that there was a bounty, but that Suggs spoke about it outside the locker room.


 

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With Goodell it's never about precedent or benchmarks, it's about him waking up each morning and arbitrarily deciding which infractions and which players/teams he's going to paint a target on that day.

It wasn't that long ago (Oct '08) that a league VP promised to look into Terrell Suggs' radio comment admitting to the bounties on Mendenhall and Ward after Lewis broke Mendenhall's collarbone and knocked him out for the season. Outcome of that "investigation": Fines: Zero. Suspensions: Zero. Sternly worded letters: Zero. Nor was there any response to Brian Billick's comments that the worst part of Suggs' admission was not that there was a bounty, but that Suggs spoke about it outside the locker room.





pretty sure you're wrong there.
not sure where that falls in line with the letters sent about bounties, but there has been 5 years of them being sent out,

 

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Having an incentive program for big legal hits is normal in football. Paying incentives like $1500 for a knockout and $1000 for a cart injury is just stupid and really has no place in the game. I'm ok with the penalties.

When I was a child lying about a crime always carried a worse punishment than the actual crime.

 

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Every defensive player in the league is on a bounty system.

 

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Every defensive player in the league is on a bounty system.


yeah you better be able to hit somebody or your not going to be playing.

no playing = no pay

 

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Sith_Mauler posted:
tillsb posted:
Every defensive player in the league is on a bounty system.


yeah you better be able to hit somebody or your not going to be playing.

no playing = no pay



Yeah and I would put as much money as I have that all defensive players hit to hurt.

 

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