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Mass layoffs of hospital staff.
Government reinbursment is going down they say.
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good
stop treating the illegals unless they pay up front
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They say many uninsured going to hospitals and the payments for medicare and other government programs going down.
This is just like what conservatives predicted. Obamacare will result is worse health care for everyone.
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Hospitals should no more be set up to make money than police departments are...or the state DOT.
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Bush posted:
"I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room."
Voters have such short term memory  
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Well the healthcare system here will be like Great Britain in a few years. Have fun waiting for six months to go see the doctor. Gratz on hiring an idiot socialist president liberals
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__Bonk__ posted:
Mass layoffs of hospital staff.
Government reinbursment is going down they say.
Libtards posted:
But but but we thought the cost of health care could be lowered just by the government paying less. You mean that doesn't actually lower the cost?
No, it doesn't.
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We have hundreds of billions of dollars in "medical costs" that are actually profits for insurance companies and for profit hospital systems.
No one waits in line for 6 months in England, or Canada, or anywhere else with socialized medicine. Stop believing idiots and liars.
Also, no one thought dropping payment rates would lower costs. In fact, every projection by every source on all sides of the issue show medical costs continuing to skyrocket for the foreseeable future.
That pesky profit taking again.
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Yes they do wait for line in those socialist countries. Also if you are paying attention Ptilk Enland had to massively cute entitlments recently in order to try to balance its budge. The US wont do such a wise thing any time soon.
The US is going to be like Greece
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Libtards should make a voluntary government run healthcare system.
I guarantee you the Republicans will not stand in your way.
Do whatever you want, just leave the rest of us out of it.
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"Everybody in! Nobody out!" "Everybody in! Nobody out!" "Everybody in! Nobody out!" "Everybody in! Nobody out!"
And to them, that is perfectly reasonable. They don't care if they have to force people to do what they want. That is why "liberals" are no such thing and haven't been for a long time.
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Its also hard to believe Obama spent all the money in the couple of years he and his party had congress. They knew they would only have a few years of power so they spent like crazy. Even now he wants to spend more money.
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The federal government should be picking up all the costs any city or state has to spend on illegals.
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The federal government should be picking up all the costs any city or state has to spend on illegals.
lamigra should be waiting at hospitals for illegals.
then send them back to mexico and let their own government heal them.
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Well if there weren't people suing like hospitals were a lottery ticket and the government would stop trying to run every single aspect of everything the costs might go down.
Of course that would never work according to some because then the evil hospitals would all start plotting their way to a One World Government or something (that's the only version of a conspiracy liberals like...evil capitalists want to end their companies by making everyone their slave)
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Well if there weren't people suing like hospitals were a lottery ticket and the government would stop trying to run every single aspect of everything the costs might go down.
Of course that would never work according to some because then the evil hospitals would all start plotting their way to a One World Government or something (that's the only version of a conspiracy liberals like...evil capitalists want to end their companies by making everyone their slave)
if idiots werent performing surgery because its an easy way to get rich.....
or if rich mommy n daddy would stop buying their children free rides to becoming a rich doctor....
some people just should NOT be operating on people or doctoring at all.
it will always attract the dumb and incompetent as long as its such a rediculously well paying profession
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good
stop treating the illegals unless they pay up front
You cannot do that. Doing so will break the law. What this will do is make the wait that much longer. It is the natural result of liberal policies.
In a way it is kind of smart. You make the system so bad that people will be more ready for a total govenment take over. I'm sure that some liberals are smart enought to understand that but the majority feel they can pay for everything with magic money.
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__Bonk__ posted:
They say many uninsured going to hospitals and the payments for medicare and other government programs going down.
This is just like what conservatives predicted. Obamacare will result is worse health care for everyone.
Worst president ever
You do realize that bit of Obamacare doesn't come in till like 2014, and that then they won't be uninsured any more so the hospitals will be better off?
This whole thread is a pretty big conceptual self pwn.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
the majority feel they can pay for everything with magic money.
I believe the correct term is "Obama bucks"
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Friarspam posted:
Well if there weren't people suing like hospitals were a lottery ticket and the government would stop trying to run every single aspect of everything the costs might go down.
Of course that would never work according to some because then the evil hospitals would all start plotting their way to a One World Government or something (that's the only version of a conspiracy liberals like...evil capitalists want to end their companies by making everyone their slave)
if idiots werent performing surgery because its an easy way to get rich.....
or if rich mommy n daddy would stop buying their children free rides to becoming a rich doctor....
some people just should NOT be operating on people or doctoring at all.
it will always attract the dumb and incompetent as long as its such a rediculously well paying profession
dumb, incompetent people have a tough time getting through 11+ years of post high-school education. some still get there. but in general it's more assholes than dumb, incompetents.
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Haven't people be doing this for decades? How is it suddenly all because of Obama?
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
The federal government should be picking up all the costs any city or state has to spend on illegals.
lamigra should be waiting at hospitals for illegals.
then send them back to mexico and let their own government heal them.
A few years ago, an illegal sued a US hospital for negligence because the illegal was returned to his own country where the medical care was substandard. His argument was that he was caught at the hospital after hundreds of thousands of dollars in 'free' care, and presumably was reported by some unidentified hospital staff. I believe this case is still in litigation, I would have to look up the particulars. He wants to be brought back to the US - the relocation to be paid for by the hospital, be given a place to live, be granted immunity, and get all the medical care he needs without any expense to himself. I would be hard pressed to believe he would get any of that, but the sense of entitlement was interesting.
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That sounds like something a RWN talk show host would make up.
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How did so much stupid coalesce into one thread?
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IMHO posted:
Bush posted:
"I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room."
Voters have such short term memory
This, and then Bonk says conservatives were right and it's all Obamacare's fault lol
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How did so much stupid coalesce into one thread?
It's a Bonk thread.
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That sounds like something a RWN talk show host would make up.
Rosaria's transformation into a reich wing extremist has been sad to watch.
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That sounds like something a RWN talk show host would make up.
I don't know if it was spoken about on any radio program but I believe the trial phase now is focused on determining the amount due him in compensatory and punitive damages as well as the hospital's liability to pay for the illegal's hospital care in his home country that would be equal to the care he would receive, and had been receiving, in the US.
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So here's what I found which is presumably what you're talking about:
http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2009/06/illegal-immigrant-sues-after-hospital-deports-him/
So some hospital sent a mentally retarded crash victim back to Guatemala on its own against the wishes of his legal guardian.
Why am I not surprised the real story is totally different?
I guess I should be charitable and assume you're talking about something else but that's all that's coming up on teh google.
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