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A few of these locations are actually across the street from the plant. That doesn't matter though as they are telling people they are not allowed to leave regardless.
"The Tobacco Free Policy went into effect on January 1st, 2012, stating: Tobacco use of any kind is prohibited at any time on Company premises, including the surrounding property. The surrounding property includes parking lots and other outdoor locations. This policy applies to all employees, customers, vendors and visitors on Company property.
Since that time, we have observed two violations that need to be addressed. The first is identifying what constitutes as “surrounding property,†as several employees are smoking in prohibited areas. This includes: the gas station property, the Credit Union property, the median off (edited) Avenue, the far side of the parking lot gates, the drainage ditch, the parking garages or the stream out back.
We would also like to clarify when you can leave company property. Hourly employees may leave the property if they are on an unpaid lunch. If you are on a paid break, you cannot leave the company property. Salary employees may only leave the company property during their regularly scheduled break time.
Since employees have had sufficient time to adjust to this new policy, management will now be taking disciplinary action for those violating this company policy effective immediately. First warning is a verbal, second is a written, third is three days unpaid from work and the fourth occurrence is termination of employment due to violation of company policy.
For those interested in quitting smoking, (edited) provides the “Quit for Life†program through the American Cancer Society. This program is free of charge and includes coaches and aids (lozenges, gum, patches, etc.). Please contact them at (edited) We ask for your support of and compliance with the new Tobacco-Free policy as we create a healthier environment at (edited).
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sounds like your employer sucks. that's the kind of thing i expect to hear from some pizza place that employs mostly teenagers and stoners.
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vn_nnanji posted:
The new non smoking policy just went Nazi.
Welcome to two decades ago...
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Start with the fortune 50 and up from there. A little bit bigger than GE. 
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/shrug
It's a private company. They can do what they want.
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vn_nnanji posted:
Start with the fortune 50 and up from there. A little bit bigger than GE.
Well GE is #6 so that narrows you down to 3 oil companies, the dreaded Fannie Mae, and...
WAL MART!
I always KNEW you were a Wal*Mart greeter badger!!
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I always found it interesting that, as a life insurance salesman, I could easily sell a policy to a smoker for 10-25% higher premiums, but if you were a certain %tage overweight, you could forget about getting a policy at all.
So, what is it that Insurance underwriters know about smoking that the rest of us don't?
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Fat Badger, Inc. posted:
the drainage ditch,
Really?
If someone is willing to go into a drainage ditch for a smoke, I don't think a disciplinary policy is going to dissuade them much.
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Sgian_Dubh posted:
I always found it interesting that, as a life insurance salesman, I could easily sell a policy to a smoker for 10-25% higher premiums, but if you were a certain %tage overweight, you could forget about getting a policy at all.
So, what is it that Insurance underwriters know about smoking that the rest of us don't?
Health issues from obesity start decades sooner than health issues from smoking.
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My company doesnt care. Id smoke where ever I choose. Rule or no rule. Just not in buildings or around children.
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paulg_68 posted:
/shrug
It's a private company. They can do what they want.
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Smokings dirty and gross. Only place it should be legal to skmoke is in your own back yard.
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YouMightSeeMe posted:
Smokings dirty and gross. Only place it should be legal to skmoke is in your own back yard.
Fat people are dirty and gross, and should be executed on sight.
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YouMightSeeMe posted:
Smokings dirty and gross. Only place it should be legal to skmoke is in your own back yard.
There was a story last week where someone was trying to get smoking banned on someone's back yard because the smoke was drifting into their yard and their children had asthma.
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So which evil oil company do you work for?
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Sansfear posted:
YouMightSeeMe posted:
Smokings dirty and gross. Only place it should be legal to skmoke is in your own back yard.
There was a story last week where someone was trying to get smoking banned on someone's back yard because the smoke was drifting into their yard and their children had asthma.
Ban them. And execute fat people.
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vn_nnanji posted:
Start with the fortune 50 and up from there. A little bit bigger than GE.
ConnocoPhillips?
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Nike had a similar policy ~15 years ago when I worked there (at the world HQ outside Portland). Had to get in your car and drive clear off the campus to have a smoke.
One smoker on my shift/building had a panel van, on breaks 15ppl would jam themselves into it like it was the high school tokemobile. Whichever smoker had the best parking spot would wait for the van to show up and trade spots with him, so we could all get to it faster. Security would bust people for sitting in their cars smoking, if they could see them.
Incidentally, unless the gas station is owned by the company, I don't see how they could ban smoking there. Especially if everyone made it a point to buy their smokes there. The gas station would want the business.
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My new company has a similar policy.
It sucks donkey balls.
I bought an e-cig and sneak into the bathroom when I'm dying. We'll see how that works out.
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Do they not let you use e-cigs either?
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With all the chemicals we use in production I'm not going to tell my employees not to smoke, we just have a designated area for smoking because when they drop their butts I start kicking them.
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I'm not sure so am erring on the side of caution Yuki.
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DemonicXH posted:
So which evil oil company do you work for?
apple offshore accounts $150 billion and child slave labor in China
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I'm not sure so am erring on the side of caution Yuki.
Isn't there some way you can find out? I mean I'm sure they don't let you puff away on your e-cigg at your desk but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't mind if you do it outside.
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I suppose I could email HR about it and find out. Hell, I could just go to my car.
I'm just not comfortable enough to wander away from my desk yet. My first day was literally today lol.
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I thought you quit Tali???? 
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I thought you quit Tali????
I did. And then started again.
I'm hoping the new job helps.
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hope it gets banned everywhere, that smell is nasty. 
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HOW TO GET AROUND THIS 100%
Americans with Disabilities Act.
Companies must make a REASONABLE exceptions for those who are afflicted. It works for H addicts on meth it will work for addicts smoking.
Dear Jury, I feel my companies new policy is hostile towards me and will cause me physical anguish as well as emotional stress due to a legal chemical dependency. I'm an adult and it's not illegal to be a smoker, in fact taxes on my habit pay for your roads and schools. If I can't smoke my body will react in a way that will distract me from my work and possibly threaten my employment. I believe this ruling will effectively cost smokers their jobs within this company and I have evidence that my company intended this for that purpose. In a time when employment is so critical do not let companies get away with such discriminating rulings intended to decrease their work force. I can produce evidence of my companies intentions regarding Government tax incentives for hiring replacements for the smokers they wouldn't need to fire. If other companies follow my companies example how long will it be until smokers across the nation can't afford the cigs that keep them from bashing your head in when you talk? How long until your taxes triple considering lost smoking taxes? I have a chemical dependency, which is LEGAL and well protected by my first and fourth amendment rights. My company is required by the DoJ, through the ADA, to make REASONABLE exceptions with regards to my habit.
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Just quit
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Smoking is so stupid. You dont get a buzz like from pot or alcohol.
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Seeign a bunch of losers huddled outside a business smoking looks trashy. Kudos to your biddness.
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