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And if you don't, this thread will be useless to you. But I want to toss out a speaker line I fully endorse. I have previously competed as a pro in the 601 and up watt class in IASCA for sound quality and have been invited to the finals both years I competed. I have also sat in many other vehicles and been utterly astounded at the quality of the sound. I now own some Hybrid Audio speakers and have even more coming to install in my car. All I can say about these speakers is, "WOW."
So here's a little write up from their site. Read this if you ever think you will swap any speakers someday:
Who is Hybrid Audio Technologies?
Hybrid Audio Technologies is a high-performance loudspeaker and loudspeaker accessories manufacturer based in the United States of America; a suburb of beautiful Atlanta, Georgia to be precise. Hybrid Audio Technologies was conceived from a conversation held in a coffee shop in Louisville, Kentucky, USA, as a few close friends sat around the dinner table one night after competing at, and winning the most difficult division and class in organized sound quality car audio competition, the Expert Unlimited Division at the 2004 International Auto Sound Challenge Association (IASCA®) World Finals. Those at the table shared their collective disenchantment with the direction that the current high-end car audio speaker manufacturers were going with their products. At one point, the question was posed "why don't you just build the ultimate car audio speaker line and start your own company?" So we did. What started out as a whim remark has melded into the most exciting new line of car audio loudspeakers ever!
The reason why you may have never heard of us is because Hybrid Audio Technologies is a small, organic company with an equally small marketing budget, so we rely heavily on word-of-mouth testimonials across the web, in blogs, discussion boards, and on-line reviews, and in good old fashioned verbal endorsement. Those that buy our products usually keep them - for a very long time - or trade up to a higher stage Hybrid Audio product using our industry-exclusive Trade-In and Trade-Up Program; we are the first and only company in car audio and electronics that offers lifetime guaranteed value in the USA! As for our happy customers, do an internet search and see for yourself the numerous independent tests and reviews conducted on our products, and likewise, witness heartfelt comments from satisfied customers! We may not be a household name - yet - but we can assure you that we build a product that far exceeds that of our competition.
Hybrid Audio Technologies, Inc. was officially registered as a State of Georgia USA Limited Liability Company in July 2005 under the leadership of managing director and founder Scott Buwalda. In the few months that followed, industry visionaries William Pleasant, Mark Stringer, and John Marsh, among other notable industry veterans, were incorporated into the management team of the company, and provided the foundation as we moved forward. During the months and years that followed, we saw a proliferation of great talent added to Team Hybrids, the official car audio competition team of Hybrid Audio Technologies. And now, we are a vibrant, young company rooted in the philosophy that building an exceptional product is secondary only to good old-fashioned customer service and pre- and post-purchase support.
The goal of Hybrid Audio Technologies is to develop the world's finest car audio loudspeakers.
We spend an inordinate amount of time listening to, testing, and refining our speakers and speaker systems in a variety of configurations and settings to ensure that the Hybrid Audio Technologies product performs well beyond its price range, and significantly exceeds the performance of our competitor's products.
One way we test our speakers is in the rigorous real-world test-bed of sanctioned car audio sound quality competitions around the globe; it is recognized that the best products available for purchase have been tested in organized competition. Just like the best race engines have been developed from years of track testing, the best car audio speakers are developed from years of rigorous development in sanctioned sound quality competition.
Our first opportunity to evaluate and "prove" our designs was at the 2005 IASCA® World Finals, where the first two Hybrid Audio Technologies-equipped vehicles competed with prototype speakers. Both vehicles went on to win World Championship honors in their respective classes, one of which had the highest sound quality score of that Championship event. These results have been backed up every year since; the wins and placements have expanded to multiple organizations, and in various parts of the world. In fact, in March 2011, for the sixth year in a row, competitors using Hybrid Audio product outright dominated the competition at the IASCA North American Championships, winning multiple classes as well as winning North America's most difficult class (Expert Ultimate) by the highest score ever recorded in IASCA's 21-year history. Yes, you read right, the highest scoring car in any format, in any part of the world uses Hybrid Audio Technologies products exclusively.
Hybrid Audio-equipped vehicles have won more IASCA® North American Championships and IASCA® World Championships since 2006 than all other front-stage speaker manufacturers combined.
What takes years for some manufacturers to achieve, if ever at all, we were able to achieve after only being officially organized for less than three months, and we have backed up our results for several consecutive years, winning more and more large trophies each year as championship-seeking competitors are drawn to use the Hybrid Audio product because of its efficacy. Championships are great. But what was most important to us was collecting, dissecting, and evaluating feedback from the competitors that use our products, and using this data to refine our products. We have tested different speakers and speaker systems in our competition cars to the point of obsessive compulsion, and now we proudly have six product lines to offer our customers. You too can have the worlds-best and championship-proven speaker systems in your car!
All design and engineering is done "in house" and all of our products are new, and not your typical "re-badged" products manufactured for others; Hybrid Audio speaker systems are a one-of-a-kind product that have no equal and no equivalent in the industry. We continuously strive to bring to you new and exciting products that put a priority on performance, excellent QA/QC, and incredible sound quality "right out of the box." And we believe that customer service is our responsibility.
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I haven't had a car where the stock radio wasn't good enough.
I just don't get wasting money in that area.
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My car has raido!
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Eh. Everyone is different. That's why there are so many brands. Most people are like you though. But what we did back in the early years of car stereo is what's driven automakers to have better sound systems than they used to have. Sadly they still take shortcuts at the weakest link: the speakers.
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my Ferrari 599 Fiorano has Kraco speakers factory installed, they are badass
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my Ferrari 599 Fiorano has Kraco speakers factory installed, they are badass
LOL, I believe the Kraco part!!!! For real aon, what do you have running?
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I had an acquaintance with a $500 car and $6k of speakers in it. For even more idiocy, he was having trouble keeping up with rent, and still planning more audio stuff for the car. A car he just used to go back and forth to school.
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I had an acquaintance with a $500 car and $6k of speakers in it. For even more idiocy, he was having trouble keeping up with rent, and still planning more audio stuff for the car. A car he just used to go back and forth to school.
I've seen that before too. I also don't understand it. However, I have had a lot of money in systems. The good thing is you can remove it and take it with you. The bad thing is someone else can remove it and take it with them. I have always been very careful where I go and park a vehicle like this. The only time I ever got ripped off is when I allowed kids to move back in and gave them the garage to store stuff then had to park outside. That break in made me take my garage back.
But in all fairness most people do not compete. Therefore I can see the average audiophile doing all the work I have done. I've even made my own custom fiberglass amp/processor racks that cost me $1800 to have painted when I was done. By the time I was done I had more time and money in the install than in actual components.
But hey, we all have our hobbies and things we enjoy. One guy at work used to bitch at me about what I spent. One day I asked him, "How much did you bass boat cost?" He said 18k. This was in 1995. I asked him how often he took it out and enjoyed it. He said maybe 6 times a year. I told him I had 4k in my sound system and I got to enjoy it every day. He felt pretty humble then.
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Personally, I don't see the point in dumping thousands of dollars into a car stereo system. It's...a...CAR. Yes, I know people compete with their car systems, but those competitions are at places that you drive to and then PARK your car so it can be judged. The whole point of having a car is to DRIVE it places, not park it so someone can listen to your music. You certainly can't drive with all that power being blasted from those speakers - you'd get a noise nuisance ticket/summons from the local cops in a minute, if that.
But, hey, it's not my hobby, it's yours, so spend the money as you see fit. One of my hobbies? I'd love to build a M.A.M.E. cabinet and then a VP (Virtual Pinball) table, and I'm betting several here would wonder why in the world I'd spend a couple grand on those setups.
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Personally, I don't see the point in dumping thousands of dollars into a car stereo system. It's...a...CAR. Yes, I know people compete with their car systems, but those competitions are at places that you drive to and then PARK your car so it can be judged. The whole point of having a car is to DRIVE it places, not park it so someone can listen to your music. You certainly can't drive with all that power being blasted from those speakers - you'd get a noise nuisance ticket/summons from the local cops in a minute, if that.
But, hey, it's not my hobby, it's yours, so spend the money as you see fit. One of my hobbies? I'd love to build a M.A.M.E. cabinet and then a VP (Virtual Pinball) table, and I'm betting several here would wonder why in the world I'd spend a couple grand on those setups.
Much ignorance. I've ran as much as 800 watts in my car and have never been even asked to turn it down. Why? Because I don't listen to obnoxious bass tracks. I listen to real music. And mine have always been daily drivers. And yes, you do park it for a competition. God forbid it rusts away though. The truth is, there are many more peope out there with very high end systems and you will never know it because they do not ever compete. Even here in the PNW where competitions have all but died you have places like Car Toys making a living for many.
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Personally, I don't see the point in dumping thousands of dollars into a car stereo system. It's...a...CAR. Yes, I know people compete with their car systems, but those competitions are at places that you drive to and then PARK your car so it can be judged. The whole point of having a car is to DRIVE it places, not park it so someone can listen to your music. You certainly can't drive with all that power being blasted from those speakers - you'd get a noise nuisance ticket/summons from the local cops in a minute, if that.
But, hey, it's not my hobby, it's yours, so spend the money as you see fit. One of my hobbies? I'd love to build a M.A.M.E. cabinet and then a VP (Virtual Pinball) table, and I'm betting several here would wonder why in the world I'd spend a couple grand on those setups.
Much ignorance. I've ran as much as 800 watts in my car and have never been even asked to turn it down. Why? Because I don't listen to obnoxious bass tracks. I listen to real music. And mine have always been daily drivers. And yes, you do park it for a competition. God forbid it rusts away though. The truth is, there are many more peope out there with very high end systems and you will never know it because they do not ever compete. Even here in the PNW where competitions have all but died you have places like Car Toys making a living for many.
ABBA?
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LOL Gald, I can't stand ABBA. But my best friend from Oklahoma loved them. I guess having 3 sisters helped.
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not ABBA, Ace of Base
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REAPIST, DROP THA BASSSSS!!!!!
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Personally, I don't see the point in dumping thousands of dollars into a car stereo system. It's...a...CAR. Yes, I know people compete with their car systems, but those competitions are at places that you drive to and then PARK your car so it can be judged. The whole point of having a car is to DRIVE it places, not park it so someone can listen to your music. You certainly can't drive with all that power being blasted from those speakers - you'd get a noise nuisance ticket/summons from the local cops in a minute, if that.
But, hey, it's not my hobby, it's yours, so spend the money as you see fit. One of my hobbies? I'd love to build a M.A.M.E. cabinet and then a VP (Virtual Pinball) table, and I'm betting several here would wonder why in the world I'd spend a couple grand on those setups.
Much ignorance. I've ran as much as 800 watts in my car and have never been even asked to turn it down. Why? Because I don't listen to obnoxious bass tracks. I listen to real music. And mine have always been daily drivers. And yes, you do park it for a competition. God forbid it rusts away though. The truth is, there are many more peope out there with very high end systems and you will never know it because they do not ever compete. Even here in the PNW where competitions have all but died you have places like Car Toys making a living for many.
*You* don't play the bass tracks, but so many others do, so the only place they can truly "open up" their systems is at a competition.
My point is that you spend several thousand dollars, but as soon as you start driving that vehicle around, all that fancy equipment falls victim to all sorts of problems that the equipment can't really overcome: road noise, traffic, and noise ordinances.
As I said, it's not my hobby, and I certainly can see why people enjoy spending that amount of money and time on their systems. That's why I even posted an example of one of my hobbies as a comparison of what people might see as a waste of money. I wasn't putting you down.
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"road noise, traffic, and noise ordinances"
Road noise, easily combated with Dynamat for anyone willing to spend just a few bucks and do the work. While not being able to completely eliminate it, you can subdue it. Another method is a lot of power. That's why you see lower impedance drivers in car audio and much more powerful amps. This is actually something we are proud of defeating.
Traffic, I fail to see what that has to do with car audio. Maybe racing, but not music.
Noise Ordinances, this is very rare. People that do get them usually use them as bragging rights. I've seen store owners that have gotten them put them up on the wall. But it's still rare. And people do drive around and boom. Even in neighborhoods. Have you never heard this? Like at 1 AM?
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I don't know much about car audio. I spent about $300 upgrading the speakers in my car after I bought it because the ones in there were blown out. I don't need much bass when I drive but I like to have my music sound good. It just becomes impossible for non-audiophiles to distinguish "good" from "omg super ultra GREAT!" at some point...
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I don't know much about car audio. I spent about $300 upgrading the speakers in my car after I bought it because the ones in there were blown out. I don't need much bass when I drive but I like to have my music sound good. It just becomes impossible for non-audiophiles to distinguish "good" from "omg super ultra GREAT!" at some point...
I agree with that. Plus, the upgrade you made was the single best upgrade you can make to any stock system. And yeah, it's takes a bit of critical listening to begin to appreciate the nuances that makes a good system. Too many people are caught up in what is being played, not how it sounds. And after a while you will begin to pick up little things in familiar recordings you've never heard before. Then you reach that point of enlightenment. Then you actually get in a vehicle to audition that is heads and shoulders above your own.
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