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"During a March 2 snowstorm, he saw two teen girls leave a Shell station while he was pumping gas.
“I just noticed these girls, that they had no umbrella, no coats or hood or something of that nature and I just felt like I should help,†Peterson says.
When he drove off, he saw them a short distance away on Prospect Avenue near Waverly.
“I just pulled up and said ‘How far do you have to walk?’ And one of the girls just replied, ‘We’re OK,’ and waved me on.â€
Peterson says he drove off and thought nothing of it until Barrington police showed up at his home three days later.
The married father of three, who has a fourth child due in June, listened in disbelief as police told him the girls reported the encounter and he was being charged with disorderly conduct.
His explanation did not assuage the police. Peterson’s wife of nearly 12 years can’t believe it.
“It really was a good deed, just misinterpreted,†she says.
Despite his being charged, the Petersons don’t blame the girls, their families or even police for following up.
“The question comes into why I was charged,†Rodney Peterson says.
Peterson is due in court on Monday. He’s facing a maximum $750 fine.
Barrington’s police chief said the girls in this case were “alarmed and disturbed†by Peterson’s actions. He said the right thing to do in a situation like that is to call police and tell them that the teens need a ride.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/16/man-who-offered-lift-to-teen-girls-says-hes-victim-of-good-deed-gone-wrong/
I understand being cautious and following up on something, but to charge this guy with anything is insane. Whomever made the decision to charge him should lose their job for proving they are an idiot.
Stranger danger is over emphasized in the extreme. Something like 90% of kidnappings/attacks are done by a relative/neighbor/etc, someone who is known to the victim.
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Girls have to be careful these days. There was a murderer in Spokane WA years ago who was a father with kids.
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Barrington’s police chief said the girls in this case were “alarmed and disturbed†by Peterson’s actions. He said the right thing to do in a situation like that is to call police and tell them that the teens need a ride.
Probably should have heeded that.
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The police were moronic to charge him.
The police chief is even more of an idiot. Whatever happened to being a good Samaraitan? He actually said that the guy should have called the police and have the police give them a ride home. I didn't know that being a Taxi service was part of their duties.
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I didn't know that being a Taxi service was part of their duties.
There job is to serve and protect. They aren't being a taxi service if they are protecting them from the storm.
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Zodiac was a good samaritan too 
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In this instance, I would have to say the police are stupid.
they didn't even get in the car.....
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Would this be a kind of gender profiling?
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I once asked these two teenage girls for directions. I thought they were gonna hop into my car, the little nymphos.
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The girls got creepy vibes from him. THey should trust their instincts
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The girls got creepy vibes from him. THey should trust their instincts
If giving off creepy vibes was an arrestable offense, you would have been locked up years ago...
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He committed no crime. I dare anyone to prove that he did.
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Tych2 posted:
Sansfear posted:
Barrington’s police chief said the girls in this case were “alarmed and disturbed†by Peterson’s actions. He said the right thing to do in a situation like that is to call police and tell them that the teens need a ride.
Probably should have heeded that.
You guys are all insane.
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So now wanting to help people, whether they be adults or kids is reason to arrest and charge someone. And no crime was commited.
What kind of paranoid dystopic society does that?
It's kinds telling how some posters immedialtely think of "rape" a few times before considering any other reason for this man to pick them up.
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Better safe than sorry. Thank god the man in the car wasnt a rapist, pedophile Outposter like most of you are
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You have a very very disturbing idea of sexuality Bonk.
And I'm not trying to be funny.
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Taking down the license plate and notifying the police was a smart thing to do in case it is someone who does have a record.
But once you check the guy out and discover that there is nothing there, it should have been dropped. At most, you could send out an officer to chat with the guy.
You can't charge someone with a crime for being a good Samaritan.
Sadly, the next time that guy seems someone who might need help, he is going to drive right on by. As are anyone who reads the article and lives in that hellhole.
Remember the incident in China where the little girl was run over and noone helped? We're not too far from that ourselves.
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So now wanting to help people, whether they be adults or kids is reason to arrest and charge someone. And no crime was commited.
I was just thinking there has to be more to this story...
Aren't there good sumaritian laws? If these girls would have gotten picked up or kidnapped and they found out this guy didn't stop to help them and just drove past them, wouldn't they then try to say he should have done something????
This country is wack sometimes...
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You have a very very disturbing idea of sexuality Bonk.
And I'm not trying to be funny.
I know that most of you guys are rapists criminals of some sort
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Remember the incident in China where the little girl was run over and noone helped? We're not too far from that ourselves.
This was precisely the point I was going to make a minute ago, but you typed it first.
I wouldn't say we are 'close' to that, but this is a road you go down to get there. And we're more than a few steps down that road.
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Being cautious is one thing ... but hauling the guy into court is certainly another!
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Yeah they shouldn't have arrested him. Thats a bit to far.
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Well, we only have his side for the details of what happened. if it is accurate, the police shouldn't have charged him.
I wonder how many other folks were out walking that he didn't offer rides to?
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The girls got bad vibes from him. Better safe than sorry!
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Well, that's why we have checks and balances built into our system. This will get thrown out in court.
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The real problem these days is the new generation of girls. They think every guy is creepy. Can't even sneak inside a stranger's bedroom these days without being profiled at a "creep" or "pervert" or "serial rapist" as a guy
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Hope your daughters dont trust strangers especially Outposters
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I gave a lady a free ride in the cab the other day that was walkin alongside the highway with a gas can in the rain. I also gave a free ride to a grungy dude with blue fingernails and 4 duffel bags outside of a clinic, but he came and asked me for the ride.
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I gave a lady a free ride in the cab the other day that was walkin alongside the highway with a gas can in the rain. I also gave a free ride to a grungy dude with blue fingernails and 4 duffel bags outside of a clinic, but he came and asked me for the ride.
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disorderly conduct is a BS charge. I bet 99 percent of the people charged with it probably shouldn't have been charged with anything at all.
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What a scrub. If he had had a little fluffy white dog sitting in his lap when he asked them, he wouldn't have gone to his rapeshack empty handed.
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A couple of years ago I gave a ride to 3 hispanic girls who came up to the cab while I was sitting in a parking lot with a chain smoking paranoid schizophrenic personal customer and said their friend was really sick, could I give them a ride. Frida agreed (I guess she actually gave them the free ride) so I took em. Those girls learned something about extreme mental illness on that trip.
I've given a few involuntary free rides as well.
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I understand being cautious and following up on something, but to charge this guy with anything is insane. Whomever made the decision to charge him should lose their job for proving they are an idiot.
Stranger danger is over emphasized in the extreme. Something like 90% of kidnappings/attacks are done by a relative/neighbor/etc, someone who is known to the victim.
Right?
"I saw two Americans youths in need of a ride and offered it to them."
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I bet if he was wearing his pants when he asked the girls he never would have been arrested. Always wear your pants when driving, is my motto.
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The real problem these days is the new generation of girls. They think every guy is creepy. Can't even sneak inside a stranger's bedroom these days without being profiled at a "creep" or "pervert" or "serial rapist" as a guy
you are almost right, media makes them think if you are not wealthy or a blonde haired blue eyed guy, that you are probably a creep esp as your skin gets darker.....
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In this instance, I would have to say the police are stupid.
I don't blame the police for following up - in this day and age that's required - but I do blame the DA for filing charges. What a farking dimbulb.
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I just read over the disturbing the peace laws and ordinances for Chicago Illinois.There isn't anything that comes close to warranting charges against him for what he did and as a matter of fact if he had been doing something worthy of the charge of disturbing the peace but his intent was to help someone ,he can't be found guilty of disturbing the peace.(intent is part of the Illinois law )...He should be and I assume will be suing the officer for false arrest .
It is a sad state we are in when good Samaritans are illegally victimized by criminal cops for trying to help someone and the police dept backs the criminal cop.
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You guys are pretty quick to believe his side of the events without hearing anything else.
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You guys are pretty quick to believe his side of the events without hearing anything else.
That's because, as already stated earlier, disturbing the peace ordinances are bullshite laws applied when someone isn't really doing something wrong, but somehow managed to upset some poor neurotic. (Real laws include: noise ordinances which are based on specific proven decibel levels, assault, battery, etc).
If he was doing something wrong, there's some "real" law he'd have been charged with breaking.
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The police were moronic to charge him.
The police chief is even more of an idiot. Whatever happened to being a good Samaraitan? He actually said that the guy should have called the police and have the police give them a ride home. I didn't know that being a Taxi service was part of their duties.
exactly.. police get offended if tou ask them for a ride. they are not taxis ( ive asked and thats what i was told).
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You guys are pretty quick to believe his side of the events without hearing anything else.
That's because, as already stated earlier, disturbing the peace ordinances are bullshite laws applied when someone isn't really doing something wrong, but somehow managed to upset some poor neurotic. (Real laws include: noise ordinances which are based on specific proven decibel levels, assault, battery, etc).
If he was doing something wrong, there's some "real" law he'd have been charged with breaking.
Not necessarily. See Al Capone. Besides, what would be the charge for "this guy fell just short of attempted kidnapping"?
Sometimes cops have to press charges short of what they'd like to, simply because they're not sure it will stick in court, even if they're 99% sure it was committed.
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...what would be the charge for "this guy fell just short of attempted kidnapping"?
Sometimes cops have to press charges short of what they'd like to, simply because they're not sure it will stick in court, even if they're 99% sure it was committed.
WTF... are you serious?
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Kjarhall posted:
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You guys are pretty quick to believe his side of the events without hearing anything else.
That's because, as already stated earlier, disturbing the peace ordinances are bullshite laws applied when someone isn't really doing something wrong. If he was doing something wrong, there's some "real" law he'd have been charged with breaking.
Not necessarily. See Al Capone. Sometimes cops have to press charges short of what they'd like to, simply because they're not sure it will stick in court.
Those... were real crimes. It's just that Capone was doing a LOT of crimes, and when you do lots or repeat crimes you will eventually screw up. System working as intended there.
When you've gotta step down to "disturbing the peace"... not so much.
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The parents who called the police should be punched in the face. The cops who arrested him should be punched in the face.
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The parents who called the police should be punched in the face. The cops who arrested him should be punched in the face.
I have no clue how you can say that based on the information the story gives you.
If some weird old guy tries to pick two female teenagers up and sends off the wrong vibes I see nothing wrong with them calling the police.
The fault is with the police and especially the prosecutor. Disorderly conduct is 100% a BS charge. WTF do they think fining him $750 is going to do to improve public safety?
It's stupid in the extreme. Charging him with a BS charge like that accomplishes nothing at all.
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The parents who called the police should be punched in the face. The cops who arrested him should be punched in the face.
I have no clue how you can say that based on the information the story gives you.
If some weird old guy tries to pick two female teenagers up and sends off the wrong vibes I see nothing wrong with them calling the police.
The fault is with the police and especially the prosecutor. Disorderly conduct is 100% a BS charge. WTF do they think fining him $750 is going to do to improve public safety?
It's stupid in the extreme. Charging him with a BS charge like that accomplishes nothing at all.
Isn't it the DA that is pressing the charges? Wouldn't he be the dumbass in this scenario?
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The parents who called the police should be punched in the face. The cops who arrested him should be punched in the face.
I have no clue how you can say that based on the information the story gives you.
If some weird old guy tries to pick two female teenagers up and sends off the wrong vibes I see nothing wrong with them calling the police.
The fault is with the police and especially the prosecutor. Disorderly conduct is 100% a BS charge. WTF do they think fining him $750 is going to do to improve public safety?
It's stupid in the extreme. Charging him with a BS charge like that accomplishes nothing at all.
Isn't it the DA that is pressing the charges? Wouldn't he be the dumbass in this scenario?
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investigate and move on... maybe the guy was really a creep though.
many of these creeps seem very normal except when they go into creep mode.
i took a ride from a stranger once, it was an older dude. he seemed nice but at the same time it was kind of risky.
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If he's a creep and it seemed really sketchy the police should be doing something but charging him with a 100% BS fine is not what they should be doing.
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what else can they legally charge him with? maybe the fine will get his name into the system.
im not surprised his wife thinks hes a nuce guy.
hopefully he can go to court and fight it if its truly a musinderstanding.
edit: for the girls to remember his plate number and then notify the police is says to me he did something inappropriste. most people would say 'no thanks' and then forget about it.
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You guys are pretty quick to believe his side of the events without hearing anything else.
Given that TFA rather clearly indicates that his side and the girls' side match exactly methinks you did not RTFA. 
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what else can they legally charge him with?
Umm... nothing. Which is good. Because on these facts he committed no crime. You don't charge someone and convict them of a crime because you feel like he's creepy and might have been up to know good. This is America FFS.
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Next time someone will freeze to death and everyone will scream that people drove right by and never offered to help. Sometimes common sense is not so common.
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edit: for the girls to remember his plate number and then notify the police is says to me he did something inappropriste. most people would say 'no thanks' and then forget about it.
Not nescarily remember in this day and age you have airlines that will not let an adult male sit next to a kid on a flight for fear he is a predator, kids today are taught to not trust adult males.
I for one will not stop to help someone unless its a medical emergency... run over by a car for example... stuck in a ditch to bad... walking home in bad weather sorry.. this guy gets reamed trying to be a good person a guy in oklahoma stopped to pull a woman out of a ditch in a snow storm and she gets his tag number and her insurance company goes after him for the damage to her car. (from the accident)
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If the guy had more game, those girls wouldn't have been talking to the police.
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I'm a man; I'm not dumb - i wouldn't stop to help kids or even most single women unless they were within my dating range or much older than me. The only way I'd offer help is if I'm with another female. Men are dangerous and it makes sense for women and children to be leary.
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eodoll posted:
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The police were moronic to charge him.
The police chief is even more of an idiot. Whatever happened to being a good Samaraitan? He actually said that the guy should have called the police and have the police give them a ride home. I didn't know that being a Taxi service was part of their duties.
exactly.. police get offended if tou ask them for a ride. they are not taxis ( ive asked and thats what i was told).
Hell, I got rear ended in a freaking intersection with my one year old daughter in the back seat and it took the goddamn police almost an hour to show up. Now they're supposed to be an on demand taxi service?
This whole thing sounds like some government bureaucrat is politically covering his cowardly narrow ass.
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I didn't read the article but he needs to sue the hell out of that city.
I changed an older mans tire the other day.
I may need to go on vacation for a while to keep off the grid.
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The guy said it best: No blame to the girls, the parents, or the police in following this up. The D.A. however that decided to press charges needs to grow a brain.
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If I'd stop and help a man, I'm sure as shit going to stop and help a woman. If they wanna lock me up for it, then they can try.
Of course, I'm not going to stop and offer a man a ride, so I'm in the clear. 
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I was broken down on the road today and a couple stopped about a hundred yards in front of me and had an argument about offering me help. I think the woman wanted to offer but the man didn't. It looked like it got pretty heated. However, I am 215 lbs and 6'4" haven't shaved in a week and I was in sweat shorts and flip flops. I wouldn't take my wife up to a man like that and offer a ride or anything.
Also, my iphone saved me because there was a little country gas station a mile from me as the crow flies. I would have had to walk 5 miles to the nearest exit.
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The girls got creepy vibes from him. THey should trust their instincts
If giving off creepy vibes was an arrestable offense, you would have been locked up years ago...
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It's a sad society we live in when offering someone a ride is seen as "creepy" instead of helpful. You have to be careful (the girls were right to refuse the ride), but I don't think you can go through life thinking every man is a potential sex offender out to get you... or treat him as such.
This is not that much different from the guy that was asked to switch seats with a woman on a plane because he was sitting next to an unaccompanied child. Is it right to treat men as potentially dangerous when they've done nothing wrong? It's not just insulting, but this type of treatment wouldn't fly with any other group.
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...what would be the charge for "this guy fell just short of attempted kidnapping"?
Sometimes cops have to press charges short of what they'd like to, simply because they're not sure it will stick in court, even if they're 99% sure it was committed.
WTF... are you serious?
Not sure why anyone finds it odd that i'm not taking the media account as gospel and offering a plausible reason why the police may have done what they did.
Especially when we spend half our time here being skeptical of media sources, and i'm far from a police apologist.
It's entirely possible that the cop saw something (that isn't in the article or is contrary to the article) that made him think "Let me charge him with something minor just so i can bring him in, then we'll sort it out. If his story pans out, we can always drop the charge."
What the prosecutor does afterwards is on the prosecutor, not the police. And maybe the prosecutor also saw something. Or the prosecutor is the dumbass.
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I'm a man; I'm not dumb - i wouldn't stop to help kids or even most single women unless they were within my dating range or much older than me. The only way I'd offer help is if I'm with another female. Men are dangerous and it makes sense for women and children to be leary.
Give up your man-card. What a ridiculous view of the world.
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I'm a man; I'm not dumb - i wouldn't stop to help kids or even most single women unless they were within my dating range or much older than me. The only way I'd offer help is if I'm with another female. Men are dangerous and it makes sense for women and children to be leary.
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It's entirely possible that the cop saw something (that isn't in the article or is contrary to the article) that made him think "Let me charge him with something minor just so i can bring him in, then we'll sort it out. If his story pans out, we can always drop the charge."
That may have been what the cop was thinking, but I doubt it. more than likely he was thinking. "I'm going to charge him because I can." And the DA was likely thinking "I need to support the police and keep the city out of trouble."
but even if you are right about the police thinking he might be guilty of something worse is that really how you want your police to act? I guess I think it's funny that you think that makes a bodus charge better. PAPERS PLEASE!
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It's entirely possible that the cop saw something (that isn't in the article or is contrary to the article) that made him think "Let me charge him with something minor just so i can bring him in, then we'll sort it out. If his story pans out, we can always drop the charge."
That may have been what the cop was thinking, but I doubt it. more than likely he was thinking. "I'm going to charge him because I can." And the DA was likely thinking "I need to support the police and keep the city out of trouble."
but even if you are right about the police thinking he might be guilty of something worse is that really how you want your police to act? I guess I think it's funny that you think that makes a bodus charge better. PAPERS PLEASE!
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It's entirely possible that the cop saw something (that isn't in the article or is contrary to the article) that made him think "Let me charge him with something minor just so i can bring him in, then we'll sort it out. If his story pans out, we can always drop the charge."
That may have been what the cop was thinking, but I doubt it. more than likely he was thinking. "I'm going to charge him because I can." And the DA was likely thinking "I need to support the police and keep the city out of trouble."
but even if you are right about the police thinking he might be guilty of something worse is that really how you want your police to act? I guess I think it's funny that you think that makes a bodus charge better. PAPERS PLEASE!
Police do that all the time. I never said it was right.
All i'm saying is there's a rush to judgement here over a single article. It could be just what you all say it is, or not. I'd rather hear what goes on in court and then we'll see better.
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Police do that all the time. I never said it was right.
All i'm saying is there's a rush to judgement here over a single article. It could be just what you all say it is, or not. I'd rather hear what goes on in court and then we'll see better.
The problem with police doing it all the time, whether or not it's right is that it gives legitimacy to the suspicion of this guy on little or no evidence.
Admittedly, vigilance is important with respect to stalkery things and all that... but when vigilance becomes vigilantism, you're doing it wrong.
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