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2 beers and a sammich = .12
thats what i blew for my DUI.
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what? isn't the limit 0.08?
i think that's like 5 beers. 
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Perhaps you can't handle your liquor.
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I get a buzz from two beers. You shouldnt be considered drunk from just two beers.
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cough lightweight cough
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damn it
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Are you counting 1 beer as a 24oz can...?
I can't imagine getting that wasted after 2 beers, especially with food. You must weigh like 100lbs.
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wasnt me.
was him at the bar the other day.
2 drafts.
its got nothing to do with what someone can handle.
the system is flawed. its rigged against the innocent.
2 beers doesnt make anyone drunk, even bonk.
the legal limit is .08 now adays.
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I thought .08 was the equivalent of one beer, or one shot per hour?
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there are many factors that can cause it. thats why if you blow positive at a check you have to go into the van and do 3 tests over 20 minutes on the more accurate machine
my friend blew over 0.05 (which is the limit here) and then when he did the tests in the van he was only 0.03. the hand held breathalysers ones arent as accurate
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there are many factors that can cause it. thats why if you blow positive at a check you have to go into the van and do 3 tests over 20 minutes on the more accurate machine
my friend blew over 0.05 (which is the limit here) and then when he did the tests in the van he was only 0.03. the hand held breathalysers ones arent as accurate
it doesnt work that way here.
if they can get anyhting to say you over the limit, they are going to lock you away and destroy your life.
you have any idea what it costs to have that thing installed in your car?
and thats on top of the fines, "rehab", lawyers, etc...
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I think in Ohio you can refuse the breath test..but then they haul you off for a blood alcohol test.
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HAHA!!!
sweeny, what else did you blow for your DUI?
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Halloweve posted:
I think in Ohio you can refuse the breath test..but then they haul you off for a blood alcohol test.
If I had maybe 2 drinks over the last hour and I was corralled, I would go for the blood test. It's far more accurate and less subject to the errors seen with brethalyzers.
I've already warned my wife that if it happens, she'll have to come pick me up.
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Not to mention the longer you wait, especially with the increased heart rate from stress, the better the chance to reduce the alcohol in your system.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Halloweve posted:
I think in Ohio you can refuse the breath test..but then they haul you off for a blood alcohol test.
If I had maybe 2 drinks over the last hour and I was corralled, I would go for the blood test. It's far more accurate and less subject to the errors seen with brethalyzers.
I've already warned my wife that if it happens, she'll have to come pick me up.
youre supposed to refuse.
you have the right to remain silent. use it.
you have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. excersize it.
ZartanAround posted:
HAHA!!!
sweeny, what else did you blow for your DUI?
your mom
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wow that sucks. But hey your a light weight. No biggy just drink at home and never have to worry about a passing or failing  then you can see how bad you fail each time
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There are a lot of variables in the equation for what shows up on a breathalyzer:
strength of the drink (unless you're drinking miller or bud, most drinks are MUCH stronger than the typical figures for "one drink")
size of the drink (most of the facts and tables you see are based on 12 ounce beers with about 5% alcohol and many/most drafts are 12 ounces or more)
body weight of the drinker
time since last drinking (you metabolize about the alcohol in a pint of 5% ABV beer per hour)
That said, I would suspect the accuracy of an over the counter breathalyzer and expect that it would be tuned to be overly sensitive so as to help the manufacturer avoid lawsuits by having the machine tell a person they were under the limit when they turn out to be over it.
Incidentally, one of the "variables" that does not affect BAC IN THE LEAST is your tolerance for alcohol. It doesn't matter how much of a "seasoned drinker" you are - your BAC will still show how much alcohol is in your system - you might be more or less "used to" handling higher amounts of BAC than someone else, but your BAC will never be based on your tolerance and will ALWAYS be based purely on your consumption (and metabolism) over time.
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Cawlin posted:
There are a lot of variables in the equation for what shows up on a breathalyzer:
strength of the drink (unless you're drinking miller or bud, most drinks are MUCH stronger than the typical figures for "one drink")
size of the drink (most of the facts and tables you see are based on 12 ounce beers with about 5% alcohol and many/most drafts are 12 ounces or more)
body weight of the drinker
time since last drinking (you metabolize about the alcohol in a pint of 5% ABV beer per hour)
That said, I would suspect the accuracy of an over the counter breathalyzer and expect that it would be tuned to be overly sensitive so as to help the manufacturer avoid lawsuits by having the machine tell a person they were under the limit when they turn out to be over it.
you metabolise about one drink an hour
you piss them out a little faster
sweat them out even faster
and breath them out as well.
breathalizers are a bad measure of BAL.
and most beers are around 4.5% some of my favorites are even a little lower. 3.5% or so, and a few are much higher. my scotch ale is around 8%.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Cawlin posted:
There are a lot of variables in the equation for what shows up on a breathalyzer:
strength of the drink (unless you're drinking miller or bud, most drinks are MUCH stronger than the typical figures for "one drink")
size of the drink (most of the facts and tables you see are based on 12 ounce beers with about 5% alcohol and many/most drafts are 12 ounces or more)
body weight of the drinker
time since last drinking (you metabolize about the alcohol in a pint of 5% ABV beer per hour)
That said, I would suspect the accuracy of an over the counter breathalyzer and expect that it would be tuned to be overly sensitive so as to help the manufacturer avoid lawsuits by having the machine tell a person they were under the limit when they turn out to be over it.
you metabolise about one drink an hour
you piss them out a little faster
sweat them out even faster
and breath them out as well.
breathalizers are a bad measure of BAL.
and most beers are around 4.5% some of my favorites are even a little lower. 3.5% or so, and a few are much higher. my scotch ale is around 8%.
Metabolize is basically shorthand for excrete, sweat, breathe.
My dad was a parole officer for 35+ years and for around 20 years, he taught the alcohol awareness class you were required to attend when you got a DUI in PA. From the age of about 16 until he retired when I was in my late 30s, I heard all the stats and speeches about drinking and driving more times than I care to remember from him.
Yes you "metabolize" about one drink per hour - about... which means on average - different people have different metabolic rates. As you're aware, different types of alcoholic beverages have different amounts of alcohol in them.
For years, "drinks" were equated as one 12 ounce beer = one glass of wine = one mixed drink... all with approximately 15 ml of alcohol in them - this is a relatively huge fallacy ESPECIALLY if you're drinking mixed drinks which will vary tremendously in terms of alcohol content.
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Cawlin posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
Cawlin posted:
There are a lot of variables in the equation for what shows up on a breathalyzer:
strength of the drink (unless you're drinking miller or bud, most drinks are MUCH stronger than the typical figures for "one drink")
size of the drink (most of the facts and tables you see are based on 12 ounce beers with about 5% alcohol and many/most drafts are 12 ounces or more)
body weight of the drinker
time since last drinking (you metabolize about the alcohol in a pint of 5% ABV beer per hour)
That said, I would suspect the accuracy of an over the counter breathalyzer and expect that it would be tuned to be overly sensitive so as to help the manufacturer avoid lawsuits by having the machine tell a person they were under the limit when they turn out to be over it.
you metabolise about one drink an hour
you piss them out a little faster
sweat them out even faster
and breath them out as well.
breathalizers are a bad measure of BAL.
and most beers are around 4.5% some of my favorites are even a little lower. 3.5% or so, and a few are much higher. my scotch ale is around 8%.
Metabolize is basically shorthand for excrete, sweat, breathe.
My dad was a parole officer for 35+ years and for around 20 years, he taught the alcohol awareness class you were required to attend when you got a DUI in PA. From the age of about 16 until he retired when I was in my late 30s, I heard all the stats and speeches about drinking and driving more times than I care to remember from him.
Yes you "metabolize" about one drink per hour - about... which means on average - different people have different metabolic rates. As you're aware, different types of alcoholic beverages have different amounts of alcohol in them.
For years, "drinks" were equated as one 12 ounce beer = one glass of wine = one mixed drink... all with approximately 15 ml of alcohol in them - this is a relatively huge fallacy ESPECIALLY if you're drinking mixed drinks which will vary tremendously in terms of alcohol content.
good for you
you learned all the BS
did your dad tell you how cops lie and cheat?
did he tell you how the system is rigged against innocent people so the states can collect more money and appease more voters by being tough on crime will ignoring real crime?
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sweeny_comodore posted:
good for you
you learned all the BS
did your dad tell you how cops lie and cheat?
did he tell you how the system is rigged against innocent people so the states can collect more money and appease more voters by being tough on crime will ignoring real crime?
Yes.
I'm well aware of all of those things - some from hearing from my dad, some from knowing the simple biology of it all (I do have a physiology degree after all).
I'm also well aware of the fact that most people who get busted DUI aren't getting caught the very first time they drank and drove.
I'm also well aware, having lost friends who were sober bystanders and who were drunk to DUI accidents, how prevalent traffic fatalities are when people DUI.
I have personally worn out all my luck in this regard and like most other people in my age group and older, have likely driven over the limit a number of times. I have been fortunate in that the only time I was ever close to getting busted, I was right on the limit of the field breathalyzer and the cop said he was at the end of his shift and didn't feel like hauling me off for a blood test to confirm whether or not I was actually over (by which time I would have surely been under anyway), so I got REAL lucky. In truth, I may have been well under the limit and he might have been BSing me just to scare me, but either way, it worked and I don't tempt fate anymore.
I'm sorry you got busted DUI man, I truly am. I know what a fking massive hassle and lead weight that can be around your neck - again, 20 years of stories from my dad about how just a DUI arrest wrecks your life even if you don't injure anyone in an accident have driven the point home for me.
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His machine is defective or just a gag gift.
Or he weighs like 50 lbs.
2 drinks doesn't put anyone at .12 I don't care how badly your body deals with alcohol.
150 lbs male, drinking 2 beers in 30 minutes should land around .045. That is on an empty stomach.
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It's pathetic really. The cops and courts do see DUI as a way to raise money and it does ruin your life. And it's totally BS that someone who has two or three drinks at dinner is likely to run out to his car and careen drunkenly into a group of people minding their own business.
Do I think someone drunk should drive? No.
Do I think alcohol can cause accidents? Of course.
But the limit is way to low and is being used to shame people and make money.
They should be focusing on the people who drink to excess and drive like maniacs and I would be all for it. The fact that having a couple beers with your friends on a Friday night almost assures that EVERYONE is driving "drunk" is just asinine.
And no, I have never gotten a DUI but I know people who have after just having a typical night out with friends, no shots involved.
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Don't drink and drive guys it ain't worth it.
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How about not drinking much or at all the hours before you drive?!
Yeah.
Instead of getting breathalyzers and toying with limits, checking if you're getting close or not.
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The overwhelmingly vast majority of people who get busted DUI are not driving while intoxicated for the first time. Yes it will happen that someone goes to happy hour with coworkers and has *JUST BARELY* one too many beers gets behind the wheel drunk for the first time in their life and gets nailed, that's unfortunate and it does suck, however what about the guy who habitually drives after drinking hard every Friday night for 2 hours?
Yes DUI fines are excessive. Yes they are a money maker for the state. Yes they invite corruption and falsification of evidence as a result of the income they represent....
HOWEVER, talk to me about the deterrent effects of the DUI laws after you've lost a good friend who was sober and was plowed into by a drunk driver. How much do you think it ruins the lives of the parents who lose a child to a drunk driver, or how much do you think it ruins the lives of children who lose a parent or parents to drunk drivers. How much do you think it ruins your life to be stuck in a wheelchair for the REST OF YOUR LIFE because of a drunk driver - no walking, no biking, constant hassle moving around EVERYWHERE. No sex, you have to modify your home just to get in and out of it, you have to have special bathing facilities put in, your kitchen needs to be totally redone, I won't even go into the details of your newly modified bathroom habits that come with becoming wheelchair bound...
It's a small thing in the grand scheme to not be involved with the potential tragedies associated with DUI. Yes all of those things can happen without drunk driving too, but that's tragic enough, why inflate the possibility of their happening?
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The machine isn't defective nor a gag gift.
My buddy weighs around 200.
This isn't about how I got screwed or my haesh lfe with a dui because I'm moved on.
Its about how EVERYONE is being screwed. How they are shaming people into a new prohibition.
Its about a rigged legal system in which your rights have been removed. In some states, they can florcibly hold you down and draw your blood against your wish to remain silent and have an attorney present. All based on erroneous readings of a machine that is prbably wrong.
The entire theory of dui law is built aeound these machines.
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In Ontario we can demand a second test using a more accurate machine that prints out the BAC.
Personally, my only test gave .035 after a 2 1/2 hour lunch and 2 glasses of Harp lager. I weigh 160 pounds.
I could see .050 if 2 beers were had quickly and then I was checked.
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"The machine isn't defective nor a gag gift.
My buddy weighs around 200."
200 lbs you say?
Medical science tells us that to achieve .12 in 30 minutes he would have to drink: 6.5 beers, glasses of whine or shots.
You could even build in margin of error of 1 drink plus or minus (5.5 to 7.5) to compensate for everything from food in gut to body physiology.
I am telling you, your buddy didn't blow .12 after 2 beers on any machine that is real.
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it tests breath.. so if the alcohol breath is in your mouth then you will register off the scale.
they need to blood test to be absolutely positive.
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Those machines are pretty unreliable. If the alcohol has been consumed recently or if you work around various types of chemicals your BAC will show higher than actual.
That said, the rule of thumb has ALWAYS been no more than 1 drink per hour if you're planning on driving.
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Your test was wrong. His BAC was not .12. Breathalyzers, especially the handheld ones, are crap. If you do get pulled over for a DUI and don't think you're over the limit, ALWAYS ask for a blood test instead.
A BAC of .08 will cause most people to be drunk. Not fall out of your chair can't walk straight drunk, but quite buzzed and definitely impaired.
People who think it's ok to drive around buzzed with impaired reflexes and coordination are idiots and deserve what they get. Crying because you got a DUI even though you arn't so drunk you can't walk just shows you're a thoughtless egoistic moron and they should do something serious to you before you end up killing someone.
I have no sympathy for drunk drivers who act like victims because they weren't drunk "enough." If you are drunk enough to feel the alcohol you are too drunk to drive and deserve what you get if you get a DUI.
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1 beer, within an hour, is enough to impair your driving capabilities whether you think so or not.
Easy rule of thumb - If you've had anything to drink within the last hour or so... don't drive. Pretty simple.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Your test was wrong. His BAC was not .12. Breathalyzers, especially the handheld ones, are crap. If you do get pulled over for a DUI and don't think you're over the limit, ALWAYS ask for a blood test instead.
The problem with this course of action is that the cops will TELL you all kinds of crap to attempt to convince you to take the breathalyzer. They will tell you that you're facing an immediate automatic license suspension whether guilty or innocent for refusing the test (when in reality you only get the automatic suspension whether guilty or innocent if you refuse the blood test TOO and make them get a warrant for it, which they will do in 15 minutes).
Sweeney is right in one respect - cops are pretty willing to do or say anything ESPECIALLY with the whole DUI thing, even though what they're doing or saying aren't legal... but of course... whose word is the court going to believe the "drunk" who says the cops coerced him or the cops who say everything was according to Hoyle, right down to their falsified calibration certificates for their breathalyzers and such...
Nevertheless, I still agree that DUI laws are necessary and that drunk driving is a reprehensible thing to do. However, the whole DUI thing has definitely led the way towards our current state of extremely militarized cops who pretty much do what they want and get away with it...
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Cawlin posted:
They will tell you that you're facing an immediate automatic license suspension whether guilty or innocent for refusing the test (when in reality you only get the automatic suspension whether guilty or innocent if you refuse the blood test TOO and make them get a warrant for it, which they will do in 15 minutes).
But that's wrong. Which is why it's important to know what the law is yourself.
Cops get the law wrong all the time. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. It's always better to know what the law is yourself so you don't end up having to take the cop's word for it.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Cawlin posted:
They will tell you that you're facing an immediate automatic license suspension whether guilty or innocent for refusing the test (when in reality you only get the automatic suspension whether guilty or innocent if you refuse the blood test TOO and make them get a warrant for it, which they will do in 15 minutes).
But that's wrong. Which is why it's important to know what the law is yourself.
Cops get the law wrong all the time. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. It's always better to know what the law is yourself so you don't end up having to take the cop's word for it.
Of course it's wrong. The cops know damn well it's wrong when they say it to you. They do it to coerce you into taking the field breathalyzer because they want the bust to go down and be on the books. That's the way it works. See above for the discussion.
As for expecting every citizen to know the law themselves - that's a great idea - except what are you going to do when you have 2 250 lb state troopers that look like fkn body builders, each of whom can bench press 500 lbs screaming in your face "DO YOU WANT TO LOSE YOUR LICENSE? IF YOU REFUSE THIS TEST NOW, I'LL JUST CUT YOUR LICENSE UP RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL CHARGE YOU WITH (12 other things that are also bullsiht but which they say so that they can coerce you into doing what they want)!
Yuki, whether or not you want to believe it happens this way, that's how it happens unless you just roll over and play docile with them. The moment you start to talk about lawyering up and wanting a blood test and all that crap, is when you get their wrath turned on you.
Incidentally, this is not just from personal experience, but from the word of my dad and from friends of his in casual conversation with me telling me exactly what they do and why.
Yeah, sure maybe some cops act professionally, but only if they know they're being recorded and not by their own dash cams, but generally speaking, you go ask ANY cop about this, they're pushing HARD and will tell you whatever they think they have to to get you to comply, even if what they're telling you is wrong, even if what they're telling you amounts to illegal threats - and they do it because they can.
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I was riding in the car with a friend of mine. He isn't a practicing lawyer, but passed the bar 15 years ago. He was nothing but compliant but refused to take the breathalyzer and the cops did exactly what you said, even cuffing him on the ride to the police station. I saw the whole thing and it basically changed my entire view of the police. There was no reason to cuff him, no reason to get belligerent and he did nothing to warrant such behavior.
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I think the police will always cuff if they take you in as a suspect of criminal behavior. It's just procedure.
The only thing I dont like is that the cops will pull your blood at the station - i'd prefer if they went to a hospital to do it.
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Thankfully I don't drink because I'd be screwed. I can't give blood without passing out since they can never find my veins. Last time the doctor just gave up after poking around for a while (not one drop of blood!) because I had gone paper white. No f***ing way I'd get my blood drawn at a police station.
Reason enough for me not to ever drink and drive. 
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These threads always crack me up. nothing funnier to me than drunk drivers crying about drunk driving rules.
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I also do not sympathize with drunk drivers
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If you get pulled over for drunk driving and you blow hot, the cop should put a bullet in your head. I would call it self defense.
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GrilledCheez posted:
These threads always crack me up. nothing funnier to me than drunk drivers crying about drunk driving rules.
I agree. There's nothing in this thread about corrupt police, using this for political gain or raising money. Nope, nothing in here but us swerving drunks posting angry...
We should just lower the legal BAC to .001 then everyone who took Nyquil the previous night could be seen as a DUI and you could crack up some more.
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