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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Processor: 3.1GHz Turbo Core AMD FX-8120
Motherboard: AMD 970
Socket: AM3+
Cache: 8MB L2
Memory: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM
Hard drive: 1 x 1TB SATA
Optical drive: 24x DVD+/-RW

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT520 1GB - PCI Express x16
Audio: High Definition 7.1 Channel Surround Audio
Networking: Ethernet
Expansion Slots Total (Free): 2 (1) x pci express x16, 2 (2) x pci express x1, 2 (2) x pci, 4 (2) x dimm 240-pin, 1 x Optical S/PDIF
Storage Controller: Serial ATA - 6.0 Gb/s
Chassis: Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Ports: 2 x USB 3.0, 8 x USB 2.0, 1 x Ethernet (RJ-45)
Power supply: 500 Watt - AC 120/230 V (50/60 Hz)


Option 2
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Processor: 3.6GHz Turbo Core AMD FX-8150
Processor Socket: AMD 970
Motherboard: AMD 970
Cache: 8MB L2
Memory: 16GB DDR3 SDRAM
Hard drive: 1 x 1TB Serial ATA
Optical drive: 24x DVD+/-RW

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX550Ti 1GB - PCI Express x16
Audio: High Definition 7.1 Channel Surround Audio
Networking: Ethernet
Ports: 2 x USB 3.0, 8 x USB 2.0, 2 x DVI, 1 x Ethernet (RJ-45), 1 x Optical audio (S/PDIF)
Expansion Slots Total (Free): 2 (1) x pci express x16, 2 (2) x pci express x1, 2 (2) x pci, 4 (0) x dimm 240-pin
Storage Controller: Serial ATA 6.0 Gb/s
Chassis: Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Power supply: 700 Watt - AC 120/230 V (50/60 Hz)

Option 3
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Processor: 3.4GHz Intel Core i7 2600K
Motherboard: Intel Z68 Express
Socket: LGA1155
Cache: 8MB L3
Memory: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM
Hard drive: 1 x 1TB SATA, 3.0 Gb/s
Optical drive: 24x DVD+/-RW
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550Ti 1GB (PCI Express x 16)
Digital video standard: VGA/DVI/HDMI
CPU fan: Liquid cooling system
Audio: High Definition 7.1 Channel Audio
Networking: Ethernet
Ports: 6 x USB 2.0, 2 x PS/2, 2 x USB 3.0, 1 x Ethernet (RJ-45), Audio, 1 x HDMI, 1 x DVI, 1 x VGA, 1 x Optical S/PDIF
Expansion card slots: 2 x PCI Express x16 (1 available), 2 x PCI Express x1 (1 available), 3 x PCI (1 available), 4 x dimm 240-pin (2 available)
Expansion bays: 4 x 5.25 ODD (3 available), 6 x internal 3.5 HDD (5 available)
Power supply: 700 Watt - AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz) Chassis: Xion AXP 970 Predator Mid-Tower Case

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
Are these pre-built rigs?

 

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Yep

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
Where you ordering it from? So far I'd stay far away from option 1... the 500w power supply means you'll have to replace that in the near future for any upgrades...

Option 3 is by far the best of them... AMD chipsets not all that great atm. Prices would also help.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
dont use stock case power supplies, upgrade to a decent brand.

they suck.

 

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Option 1 is about 700

Options 2 and 3 about 900

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
Cuttlery posted:
Option 1 is about 700

Options 2 and 3 about 900


Who is building them? Yes this matters as some companies build in such a way that you cannot upgrade.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
CyberpowerPC is the company, only reason I am looking at these is that I have a gift cert so it wouldnt really cost me anything.

 

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Also, how desperate is your need for a new computer right now? As Mithan pointed out yesterday the new ivory bridge comes down soon and that is going to plummet prices on the Sandy bridge... your $900 computer will suddenly be a $600 computer. (and still perfectly capable of playing anything hitting the market right now at full settings and for a couple years to come)

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
I dont currently have a desk top, that died a couple months ago. I have a laptop thats a few years old. I can basically browse the web and play 4+ year old games on it.

 

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since its cyber power definitely upgrade the power supply.

the stock case supply that came with mine was unstable under load for long periods of time.

I replaced it with a 700w corsair and no issues since.

with the new power supply I am current running @4.7 gig on a 3.5 gig 2700k and temps are around 25c at idle and 30c under load.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
Cyberpower is a pretty good company to have build your computer for you. They leave the set up wide open for you to change things around and make your own upgrades.

I would definitely go with option 3. I wouldn't worry too much about replacing the power supply as Sith is claiming... Unless you want to shell out a couple extra hundred for a good 800w+ one you aren't going to see much variance in the sub 800w market and it won't be monetarily worth it to replace it.

 

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Cyberpower is a pretty good company to have build your computer for you. They leave the set up wide open for you to change things around and make your own upgrades.

I would definitely go with option 3. I wouldn't worry too much about replacing the power supply as Sith is claiming... Unless you want to shell out a couple extra hundred for a good 800w+ one you aren't going to see much variance in the sub 800w market and it won't be monetarily worth it to replace it.



if you want to trust $400 motherboard/processor to a $40 power supply then go right ahead.. there is a reason they cost $40.

just read their tech support forums its full of people complaining about cheap case power supplies.

and the corsair 700w supply i bought was a $110 bucks at best buy. I could have got it cheaper if I wanted to wait on shipping.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
As long as you aren't playing new games at anything greater than 1366x768 and med to low settings, options 2 & 3 will be ok as long as you upgrade the power supply.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
for processors Intel > AMD right now. There's no point in getting anything other than a i5/i7 (2nd gen sandy bridge) right now. Unless you're waiting for ivy bridge.

 

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THESE SUCK!

Why: Because they are not built by nerds. They are built by little asian people who do not care about how good the computer is!

 

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#3 is the only one I'd consider, but I don't like the Motherboard

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
never heard of the gt520 gpu, but i would suggest a 560ti at least if you are getting a pre built since to upgrade the gpu on a pre built system you usually have to upgrade the psu

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
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Cyberpower is a pretty good company to have build your computer for you. They leave the set up wide open for you to change things around and make your own upgrades.

I would definitely go with option 3. I wouldn't worry too much about replacing the power supply as Sith is claiming... Unless you want to shell out a couple extra hundred for a good 800w+ one you aren't going to see much variance in the sub 800w market and it won't be monetarily worth it to replace it.


and that is why no one here will ever respect your opinion(s) about computers...ever again. or at least not take you seriously.

You should NEVER use the power supply that comes with a case, because they are never good quality PSU's. Always better to buy a separate case and PSU.

 

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Subject: Looking at a couple different PC's, tell me why these will suck
What sort of games do you play? Are you really just buying a $900 ACF machine? If so, you might consider a tablet.

If you do play games that will need 1G graphics cards and 8+ G of memory, I'd probably go with option 3 as the liquid cooling will be quieter.

 

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I dont play a lot of games, but I do play some games, and I want this to last awhile. I'd like to play D3 and some FPS type games. COH and things like that as well.

 

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*tag because this is very useful info

 

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