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Female state legislators around the country are sponsoring bills requiring men seeking Viagra to watch mandatory graphic videos detailing the possible horrific penile side effects, while others require lengthy counseling sessions, and even mandate stress tests and rectal exams. Other laws limit vasectomies except for in life saving conditions as they are a form of birth control.

You go girls!

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/03/14/how-about-requiring-rectal-exams-for-viagra-perscriptions/

 

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applause

 

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hell yeah. applause

next they need to hold hearings in front of an all-female panel.

 

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That's fine. Who really wants to do the nasty with old women anyway?

 

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That's fine. Who really wants to do the nasty with old women anyway?

 

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That's like shooting the cobbler to get back at the thief! Yay!

 

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Not surprised.

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!

 

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In other news Second Chance is having trouble getting his Viagra refilled.

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!



lol thats not the point at all

 

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And how do you limit vasectomies? Do you just get one nut done?

 

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yeah cause getting a vasectomy(one of the responsible things you can do) is totally the same as murdering your own child.  Nice revenge justification there.  They cant be happy that the federal government is already going to fun their murderous ways?

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!



lol thats not the point at all


Well then explain what the point really is.

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!


Moot point.

Just a FEW men though are seeking to control ALL women's reproductive rights... so you didn't really make a valid comparison.

 

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Allmightybob_MLF posted:
It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!
its not about controlling women's reproductive rights. Its about keeping them from killing their own offspring. Would I be wrong to take a knife away from a woman who is about to slit their own child's throat? Would I be trying to control her reproductive rights? According to abortionists, if she has conceived it then she can do whatever she wants to with it afterwards.

If women who are not ready to have children for whatever reason arent responsible for their reproductive rights in the first place by getting pregnant then someone has to step up and be responsible. In this case it has fallen to the government since women who get abortions want to just kill their children being irresponsible yet again

 

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Lot of QQ in here.

Mission success! They are just trying to make everyone realize how absurd their ideas are as well as the original laws against women's rights.

 

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yeah cause getting a vasectomy(one of the responsible things you can do) is totally the same as murdering your own child.  Nice revenge justification there.  They cant be happy that the federal government is already going to fun their murderous ways?


LOL at male legislators in Kansas and Alabama passing laws making it legal for doctors to withhold test results from pregnant women if those results could influence the mother's decision to abort. Doctors could legally not tell the new parents their child will have severe mental retardation, or downs syndrome.

That is ok

But an all female panel deciding a dude should watch a video before getting boner pills is outrageous.

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!


Moot point.

Just a FEW men though are seeking to control ALL women's reproductive rights... so you didn't really make a valid comparison.


This makes less sense every time I reread it. I'll start clarifying by saying that I wasn't making a comparison... at all. I was pointing out unintended message.

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!



lol thats not the point at all


Well then explain what the point really is.


It's about parodying pro-lifers. It's just their choice of parody also consisted of a secondary message.

 

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yeah cause getting a vasectomy(one of the responsible things you can do) is totally the same as murdering your own child.  Nice revenge justification there.  They cant be happy that the federal government is already going to fun their murderous ways?


LOL at male legislators in Kansas and Alabama passing laws making it legal for doctors to withhold test results from pregnant women if those results could influence the mother's decision to abort. Doctors could legally not tell the new parents their child will have severe mental retardation, or downs syndrome.

That is ok

But an all female panel deciding a dude should watch a video before getting boner pills is outrageous.


Neither one is OK at all, but they are different issues.

 

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yeah cause getting a vasectomy(one of the responsible things you can do) is totally the same as murdering your own child.  Nice revenge justification there.  They cant be happy that the federal government is already going to fun their murderous ways?
LOL at male legislators in Kansas and Alabama passing laws making it legal for doctors to withhold test results from pregnant women if those results could influence the mother's decision to abort. Doctors could legally not tell the new parents their child will have severe mental retardation, or downs syndrome. That is ok But an all female panel deciding a dude should watch a video before getting boner pills is outrageous.
It is outrageous since that is not what the government is for. I would dare say those women should be removed from their seats because they are so blinded by their feminism that its affecting their judgement and the way they do their job with them trying to get such frivolous laws passed. They are making a mockery of our whole government system.

It would be like a gay congressperson trying to get a law passed saying that you get kicked out of the army for admitting to being straight out of revenge for DADT. They would be laughed right out of the legislature.

 

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah


I'll save you the effort, I'm not interested in the discussing this topic with you.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.

 

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
I'll save you the effort, I'm not interested in the discussing this topic with you.
well its big of you to admit that you are wrong, thanks.

 

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The thing is, he's not wrong.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
whats that have to do with anything? just because I choose to not to reproduce doesnt negate my opinions on the subject. :P

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.




Your very feeling of abortion means you can't discuss this on a logical level.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.


Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Your very feeling of abortion means you can't discuss this on a logical level.
Abortion is wrong, its murder.  Not much logical about that, more factual than logical.  Its pretty simple in black and white.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.

 

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It's black and white for you and some other people. But not for everyone. For me it's not murder until the heart starts beating. And that's just my own gut feeling. So obviously I could be swayed one way or the other more than you could. Why? Because I would be willing to listen to reason. You on the other hand will not. You will only listen to who agrees with you. Therefore, I hope people like you ultimately have nothing to do with the decision.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.



Once again you demonstrate you inability to have a logical discussion on the subject.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.



It is a sad day. Not many people are happy about abortions or having to get one. The reality is people will get pregnant. Limiting birth control means more pregnancies, especially among the poor. Outlawing abortions means more babies. The truly silly part is on top of forcing people to have the child, many are fighting against welfare.

So we need to have a wider and freer access to birth control if we want to have less abortions. Whether you want to call them skanks or some other derogatory term to consciously dismiss them as real people who are just gonna have sex like they were built to do, if you give them access to birth control maybe the skanks won't need to consider abortion.


The other horrible reality is black market abortions if it is made illegal sad

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.


Son, you might be retarded.

Open your eyes and take a peak at reality. Tons of options....bahaha. From the guy who wants to cut women off from what is often their only "real" option.

What a joke.... MOAR UNWANTED CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD. NOWWWW!

 

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It's also really insulting to men because it implies that all men want to control's women reproductive rights! Yay!



lol thats not the point at all


Well that's how it seems, but we men don't speak Batprofanitycrazywoman. Can you be our interpreter?

 

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Son, you might be retarded.

Open your eyes and take a peak at reality. Tons of options....bahaha. From the guy who wants to cut women off from what is often their only "real" option.

What a joke.... MOAR UNWANTED CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD. NOWWWW!



U R the retarded! Don't you see the Chinese are way ahead of us in EVERYTHING? They have over a billion people. We barely have a third of a billion. Catch up!

 

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It's black and white for you and some other people. But not for everyone. For me it's not murder until the heart starts beating. And that's just my own gut feeling. So obviously I could be swayed one way or the other more than you could. Why? Because I would be willing to listen to reason. You on the other hand will not. You will only listen to who agrees with you. Therefore, I hope people like you ultimately have nothing to do with the decision.
so youre just basically like a flip flopping politicians...debating on all sides and ever actually choosing a side...unfortunately people like you ARE the ones who have everything to do with making the (wrong) decision (so far)

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.
[/blockquote] Once again you demonstrate you inability to have a logical discussion on the subject.
[/blockquote] Shouldnt you be questioning how anyone could think its logical to KILL an unborn child instead of at least giving it up for adoption first?  People in a logical society dont get their jollies off by killing their unborn children.  Just by your questioning my logic on an illogical subject makes you illogical in the first place. :P

 

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No non, I am not flip flopping. I am saying I have my feeling but I am open to listen to other arguments. Unlike you, I realize I may not know everything.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
Just because you used the term skank shows you are not grounded in reality.
so youre saying I should have sympathy for child murderers?  With their only defense as being "it might put a kink in my current lifestyle?"  Especially when they have tons of other options ie adoption or asking family to help (granted sometimes the options aren't ideal but its better than murder).  Its a sad day and age when we can become so non-chalant about the ending of a human life.
[/blockquote] It is a sad day. Not many people are happy about abortions or having to get one. The reality is people will get pregnant. Limiting birth control means more pregnancies, especially among the poor. Outlawing abortions means more babies. The truly silly part is on top of forcing people to have the child, many are fighting against welfare. So we need to have a wider and freer access to birth control if we want to have less abortions. Whether you want to call them skanks or some other derogatory term to consciously dismiss them as real people who are just gonna have sex like they were built to do, if you give them access to birth control maybe the skanks won't need to consider abortion. The other horrible reality is black market abortions if it is made illegal
[/blockquote] That would be paradise to me.  Back when abortion was illegal, when someone got a black market abortion they were pretty much an outcast which they should be for taking the life of their own child.  Heck when women had children out of wedlock they were usually outcasts anyways.  Im not so sure that is such a good idea since single parents still do ok most of the time but abortion and just killing out of convenience sake?  Yeah I think ppl who want to do that should have to have it done in some dark dirty alley because its a dark and dirty deed.  If you dont take responsibility for your own life and the life you help create dont come and expect me to have any sympathy for you.

 

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No non, I am not flip flopping. I am saying I have my feeling but I am open to listen to other arguments. Unlike you, I realize I may not know everything.
I never said that I know everything. I just said that I have made up my mind about a certain top that is pretty clear cut in my mind. There is nothing wrong with standing up for the principles that you believe in. Something I would think at your age would already be somewhat in a firm foundation but apparently not.

Im totally open to any solutions that dont include killing an unborn baby though. Like I think its both persons responsibility to get and USE condoms when they have sex if you are not ready to have a child. It shouldnt always be put on the guy or girl to be prepared.(since I find it ironic that a guy doesnt have ANY say in the life or death of the child that they made if she wants to abort it even if he wants to raise it without her help - which just goes to show how blood thirsty of a nation we have become)

And if goodness forbid you should accidentally wind up pregnant, man/woman up and do the right thing instead of the convenient thing.cause killing a baby is never the right thing.

 

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There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in and just being stupid about it.

 

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There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in and just being stupid about it.
well that I can agree with you on since killing an unborn innocent is probably one of the stupidest things anyone can do.

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.



JESUS profanity CHRIST WE GET IT, YOU HATE WOMEN.

YOU HATE THEM ENOUGH TO profanity MEN, SO ENOUGH ALREADY.

 

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Non's either trolling really really hard, BT style, or ... ummm.... plain

 

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
JESUS Quoted an Edit CHRIST WE GET IT, YOU HATE WOMEN. YOU HATE THEM ENOUGH TO Quoted an Edit MEN, SO ENOUGH ALREADY.
what? lol wow that is totally out of left field.  I dont hate women I want EVERYONE to take responsibility for themselves.  And by everyone I mean MEN AND WOMEN.

 

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Stupid sluts. Dont they know this is a mans world?


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Female state legislators around the country are sponsoring bills requiring men seeking Viagra to watch mandatory graphic videos detailing the possible horrific penile side effects, while others require lengthy counseling sessions, and even mandate stress tests and rectal exams. Other laws limit vasectomies except for in life saving conditions as they are a form of birth control.

You go girls!

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/03/14/how-about-req uiring-rectal-exams-for-viagra-perscriptions/

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LOL non, Bob knows you're not a breeder.
There are more than "just a few" men and women who want to "control the reproductive rights of all women" aka not letting the skanks get away with murdering their own children.
JESUS Quoted an Edit CHRIST WE GET IT, YOU HATE WOMEN. YOU HATE THEM ENOUGH TO Quoted an Edit MEN, SO ENOUGH ALREADY.
what? lol wow that is totally out of left field.  I dont have women I want EVERYONE to take responsibility for themselves.  And by everyone I mean MEN AND WOMEN.


Sometimes aborting a pregnancy IS the responsible thing to do.

And stop with the "human life begins at conception crap". The vast majority of fertilized eggs die on their own, nothing we do is gonna be more than a drop in the bucket on that front.

 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it.

It's funny. happy

 

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No, I think non might really be this stupid.
wow now who is the one being narrow minded lol

 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad. sad

 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it.

It's funny. happy



Well I see people's points on that front, I guess. It's passion towards life, it's not just a horrible way to think, even though it always ends up as a "force you to have a baby" type thinking.



My views on abortion are waaaay different than that though. I mean, we have laws in some places to prevent/limit cutting down trees but none that say you can't pluck a sprout out of the grass because you don't want a tree there tongue

 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad. sad



We'll have to turn a blind eye to that fact eventually. It is sad. Nobody is saying it's like going to disneyland. Reality is it's not going to help our future generations to force people into having unwanted children, especially when the majority of them will be at poverty level already.



 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny. happy
are we really comparing trees to human lives now?  cmon lets at least stay in reality...

 

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So... are you trolling?

 

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non, are you a weatherman?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HFb5N0AyCk

 

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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad. sad


Are.....you.....f*&*ing....kidding....me....

Unreal.

You know what else could become millions of children? All the sperm you waste when you....etc...

There is no difference in that logic. Potential for creating a human being is there in both cases. UNREALIZED POTENTIAL.

 

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are we really comparing trees to human lives now?  cmon lets at least stay in reality...


Not at all. That's just my horrible comparison. My other points are much more bearing on this topic than that, and more reasonable, which is funny that you decided to reply to this one.

 

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I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. I'm just saying if old fart wants his viagra someone in a white coat should ram a finger or three up his hind end just to make sure his oil isn't a quart low.


I am also saying this world spends an inordinate amount of time on making sure guys can have sex, and women have to be solely responsible for the possible outcomes of that act.



Republican contraceptive and reproductive policy is as simple as:

1) Dudes need to get boners. It's that simple.

2) Girls need to be jizz receptacles and baby factories and shut the hell up about it already.


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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad.
Are.....you.....f*&amp;*ing....kidding....me.... Unreal. You know what else could become millions of children? All the sperm you waste when you....etc... There is no difference in that logic. Potential for creating a human being is there in both cases. UNREALIZED POTENTIAL.
no its not lol  thats like comparing apples an oranges.  You cant make a baby out of sperm alone.  If you could gay guys could get pregnant :P can you breathe water?  Cause by your way of thinking, water and oxygen are the same thing since water is made up partially of oxygen.

 

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Okay, so he is trolling.  Just wanted to confirm.

 

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I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. I'm just saying if old fart wants his viagra someone in a white coat should ram a finger or three up his hind end just to make sure his oil isn't a quart low. I am also saying this world spends an inordinate amount of time on making sure guys can have sex, and women have to be solely responsible for the possible outcomes of that act. Republican contraceptive and reproductive policy is as simple as: 1) Dudes need to get boners. It's that simple. 2) Girls need to be jizz receptacles and baby factories and shut the hell up about it already. Right?
rofl hell hath no fury like a woman who cant take responsibility for herself.

 

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Billions of fertilized eggs are flushed from womens bodies spontaneously every year.

Should we give all those blastocysts citizenship and hold funerals for them?

 

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Just pretend that all those abortions were gonna grow up to be waiters that spant in your food for not tipping.


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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad.
Are.....you.....f*&amp;*ing....kidding....me.... Unreal. You know what else could become millions of children? All the sperm you waste when you....etc... There is no difference in that logic. Potential for creating a human being is there in both cases. UNREALIZED POTENTIAL.
no its not lol  thats like comparing apples an oranges.  You cant make a baby out of sperm alone.  If you could gay guys could get pregnant :P can you breathe water?  Cause by your way of thinking, water and oxygen are the same thing since water is made up partially of oxygen.



The absolute dumbest gotdamn thing I have ever heard is the potential argument. That group of 2 cells has a potential to become a human, so we should protect it? By that logic sex has the potential of creating a child so the pull out method should be against the law. Every child in the US has the potential to become the president, so they should all be nurtured and educated equally. All human life is precious so all children should get free healthcare?

Why do Republicans love human embryos and hate actual humans?

 

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rofl hell hath no fury like a woman who cant take responsibility for herself.



"I fear for our future generations"

"Oh, you're pregnant and have no love for it and can't take care of it properly and will continue in a state of poverty while the rest of us foot the bill? Well you shoulda been responsible, because now you HAVE to!"



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If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that removing a 6mm round parasitic blastocyst of undifferentiated cells is "murder"....then by all means, keep screaming it. It's funny.
If you are stupid and illogical enough to think that those "clump of cells" wont become a living human being and you are ok with turning a blind eye to that fact...then I have much sympathy for you and much worry for our future generations. Its sad.
Are.....you.....f*&amp;*ing....kidding....me.... Unreal. You know what else could become millions of children? All the sperm you waste when you....etc... There is no difference in that logic. Potential for creating a human being is there in both cases. UNREALIZED POTENTIAL.
no its not lol  thats like comparing apples an oranges.  You cant make a baby out of sperm alone.  If you could gay guys could get pregnant :P can you breathe water?  Cause by your way of thinking, water and oxygen are the same thing since water is made up partially of oxygen.


Are you for real?

You tell me a clump of cells comprising an egg fertilized by sperm = a full human life.

But sperm or eggs alone = nothing important?

Apparently in your world 1+1 = HUMAN BEING.

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rofl hell hath no fury like a woman who cant take responsibility for herself.


I feel like you are confused about how the world actually works.


Woman gets pregnant when she has no way of supporting a child, no one in her life to help her, and is in no position to keep herself healthy and deal with the medical/practical issues of carrying a baby for nine months. Lets throw in a bit of heroin addiction while we are at it.

Yes, everyone on the planet would love for her to be able to turn her life around 180 degrees, drop the heroin addiction, win the lottery, and become an upstanding citizen and mother.

NOT GOING TO F**ING HAPPEN. REAL WORLD.

We don't live in a black and white world kid, you need to wake up. Sometimes you do need to choose the lesser of two evils, the responsible thing to do even, and in this case that might have to be an abortion.

 

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Peanut Butter Toast is the greatest dish ever served. Once the peanut butter hits that toast, it becomes a work of magnificence glorified and sanctioned by Jehovah himself. Individually, bread and peanuts are entirely uninteresting and not worthy of any thought or discussion.

But if they touch, the miracle of delicious sandwich has occurred and hymns should be sung, and prayers shouted to the heavens. That is, until it makes it to the plate. Once it gets onto a plate it gets cold quickly, and no one really cares about it any more. It is on its own.

 

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Rich, powerful, old men want to restrict the ability of women to have sex.

That's what all this bull is about. Santorum is at least honest about it, he thinks every time you have sex you should be trying to make a baby, or at least happy that you very well might be doing so, or you are evil and sinning.

Most of the rest of the men pushing this stupidity wont come out and say that, but it's how they feel. Sex is horrible and wrong and letting people have sex without holding the threat of getting pregnant over them is an abomination, why...those women might actually start enjoying sex and go out and look for it like those men do! shock

Can't have that, woman are fragile and delicate creatures who must be protected from their ebil lusts by threats of enforced parenthood and months of suffering, culminating in painful and life threatening labor....or they might start acting like men and taking control of their own lives. shock

It's misogyny and hatred of women that prompt these ridiculous and 14th century based laws that those men keep trying to pass. Many of the men are so self absorbed and out of touch that they don't even realize how god damn stupid and insulting the laws they support are.....and bills such as the ones mentioned in the OP force them to take a closer look at their biases and their narcissistic, misogynistic ambivalence.

You threaten to make a man take a rectal probe to get viagra and they might just think twice about trying to force women to undergo similarly stupid and needless procedures to obtain birth control or an abortion. Some it will never touch, but those men are hopelessly mired in the past and will never learn.

 

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Boner pills for older guys not having sex with women who can have children is perfectly fine for Republicans.


Women capable of child bearing who want contraception is not OK because sex should only be for procreation in reverent glory to God.


Makes sense to me. silly

 

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Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.

 

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Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.




Smaller government except as it applies itself inside your vagina!

 

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Smaller government and less restrictions!!!!!

Except where sex or any type of fun at all is involved then MORE government and MORE restrictions!!11!!!!

 

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TickyAtack posted:
Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.




Smaller government except as it applies itself inside your vagina!




Id like to apply myself in your vagina. Is there an opening? blush


sorry couldnt resist

 

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Wider access to and more education about birth control would lessen the amount of abortion being sought. Obviously it wouldn't eliminate it, but if you were able to reduce the amount of murders because it is impossible to eliminate, wouldn't you want to?

The thought that people "could just not have sex" instead is ignorant of everything we've learned over the course of history no matter your own convictions on the subject. People are going to have sex.

 

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Abstinence education doesn't work? Nancy Reagan was wrong? The fact that the federal government actually has been spending tax dollars on trying to talk teenagers out of having sex since 1981 somehow ended up a useless boondoggle?

WUT?

 

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Rich, powerful, old men want to restrict the ability of women to have sex. That's what all this bull is about. Santorum is at least honest about it, he thinks every time you have sex you should be trying to make a baby, or at least happy that you very well might be doing so, or you are evil and sinning. Most of the rest of the men pushing this stupidity wont come out and say that, but it's how they feel. Sex is horrible and wrong and letting people have sex without holding the threat of getting pregnant over them is an abomination, why...those women might actually start enjoying sex and go out and look for it like those men do! shock It's misogyny and hatred of women that prompt these ridiculous and 14th century based laws that those men keep trying to pass. Many of the men are so self absorbed and out of touch that they don't even realize how god damn stupid and insulting the laws they support are.....and bills such as the ones mentioned in the OP force them to take a closer look at their biases and their narcissistic, misogynistic ambivalence. You threaten to make a man take a rectal probe to get viagra and they might just think twice about trying to force women to undergo similarly stupid and needless procedures to obtain birth control or an abortion. Some it will never touch, but those men are hopelessly mired in the past and will never learn.
I dont really care who has sex with who as long as you take responsibility for it either before you have sex or after.(not via abortion) Im not trying to hold women back, they can go out and be sluts as much as they want and as far as thats concerned men can go out and be just as slutty if not more so for all they want to. But if it results in a baby like I said do the right thing and raise it properly or if youre not in a position to find a way either through adoption or something else rather than killing him/her.

This is a fine example of why we have so much crap going on in every aspect of our lives. People just DONT take responsibility anymore for anything. Because if you take responsibility if something goes wrong it can be traced backed to you and people have been taught to avoid that like the plague. Children see one of their parents leave, giving up responsibility of their family all the time. The media and schools are always saying, "oh honey its not your fault its always someone or somebody else" or they see other people taking the easy way out all the time. People hear about the tycoons on wall street not being responsible in their business practices and they think if they can do it why cant I? Everyone picks up on this then pass it down to their children and its a vicious downhill cycle til we've gotten to the point we're so callous and uncaring that some people dont blink an eye when someone talks about killing an unborn child.

If people took more responsibility for themselves and actually cared about themselves and their loved ones then the question of having an abortion would be a no brainer since there would hardly be any "oops" pregnancies. I dont get why people tell me to look at "reality" when this WAS reality some 50 odd years ago.(Im not saying that everything was great 50 years ago - alot of it stunk - but at least people had a few morals and scruples left in them then) Yes people did get pregnant out of wedlock but it wasnt nearly as high of a rate as it is now and to say the least it was a REALLY taboo thing too. Goodness forbid someone say that people should be responsible, thats heretic talk! plain

 

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This thread is making me horny now.  Thanks... jerks.

 

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For the record, I am Republican and I am for birth control and for abortion.

 

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For the record, I am Republican and I am for birth control and for abortion.
For the record, I am for whichever party isnt a lying/cheating SOB's and I am for birth control and against abortions.

 

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Non, I want to know your opinion on this.

Is removing someone in a coma from life support murder?

 

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Non, I want to know your opinion on this. Is removing someone in a coma from life support murder?
I dunno honestly Ive always been split on that issue honestly.  If the choice were up to me I couldnt take someone off life support on the same principle of being against abortion.  Just on the off chance that they miraculously wake up and are ok.

 

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For the record, I am Republican and I am for birth control and for abortion.
For the record, I am for whichever party isnt a lying/cheating SOB's and I am for birth control and against abortions.



So, you're not for any party. Got it.

 

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Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.




I know many large families that aren't on welfare.

 

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Why do Republicans love human embryos and hate actual humans?


Why do Democrats spout out a bunch of retarded statements like this?

 

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TickyAtack posted:
Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.




I know many large families that aren't on welfare.



I know many spotted seaguls.

 

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TickyAtack posted:
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TickyAtack posted:
Right now it seems the old man republican view point is:

Against birth control, against abortion, against welfare and government services.

Which is not even remotely realistic, these things are all related, whether you like it or not.




I know many large families that aren't on welfare.



I know many spotted seaguls.



Yeah I get it, you don't want the reality that there are people who walk the walk to stop you from playing make-believe problem solver. Continue telling us all how the world works, we're ready to listen.

 

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Yeah but there are seagulls without spots, right?


I've seen them.

 

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I've never been a fan of this introduce a ridiculous bill for the sole purpose of parody thing. I mean this is our government ffs, can we just have a quick debate using a poster of this instead? Have a laugh, then introduce a real bill.

On a side note, with all the Michigan Republican majority going on right now, my Dad says they are passing a bill making it a crime to "intimidate a woman into having an abortion" by threatening to remove her living situation, job, etc.

So my Dad, who is a thorough republican, was talking about how he worried about it because my little sister who is turning 18 this year could theoretically get pregnant and he would be stuck with her and the baby or be a criminal. Just kind of randomly discussing the possibility, and it occurred to me that a lot of people would suddenly be pro-choice in that situation.

Just think, your kid is finally almost old enough to be out of the house, not going to school or working atm, running around doing dumb stuff, and suddenly they come home one day talking about they're pregnant and you can't make them leave now. doh!

 

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I've never been a fan of this introduce a ridiculous bill for the sole purpose of parody thing... doh!


I agree. The original bill was stupid on it's own merits. There is no need to waste everyone's time with more stupid just to point out previous stupid.

 

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I've never been a fan of this introduce a ridiculous bill for the sole purpose of parody thing. I mean this is our government ffs, can we just have a quick debate using a poster of this instead? Have a laugh, then introduce a real bill. On a side note, with all the Michigan Republican majority going on right now, my Dad says they are passing a bill making it a crime to "intimidate a woman into having an abortion" by threatening to remove her living situation, job, etc. So my Dad, who is a thorough republican, was talking about how he worried about it because my little sister who is turning 18 this year could theoretically get pregnant and he would be stuck with her and the baby or be a criminal. Just kind of randomly discussing the possibility, and it occurred to me that a lot of people would suddenly be pro-choice in that situation. Just think, your kid is finally almost old enough to be out of the house, not going to school or working atm, running around doing dumb stuff, and suddenly they come home one day talking about they're pregnant and you can't make them leave now.
I wonder if its already a crime to intimidate a woman into not having an abortion by threatening to remove their living situation/job etc.  That would mean men who are married or even just dating would still have to support them woman if she had an abortion.  Seems like that would infringe on the civil rights of the guy.

 

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For the record, I am Republican and I am for birth control and for abortion.
For the record, I am for whichever party isnt a lying/cheating SOB's and I am for birth control and against abortions.



So, you're not for any party. Got it.


damn right. so far all either party has done is point out what the other party did wrong and then go and f*** things up worse than they already were.

 

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