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Now I know why so many pilots are alcoholics.
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combat flying has been defined as hours of sheer boredom punctuated with a few moments of sheer terror.
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I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
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i think that if you were tossed off a building 40x in a row it would be equally exciting everytime
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my friend who's a pilot was always the guy that liked to be the driver when we went on a cruise, or he'd always stay sober enough to drive our drunken butts home after bar hopping.
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deadcactus posted: I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
bus drivers in the sky. and pilots dont make crap until you get to the capt or first officer level on a big jet. those little 2 engine regional connector pilots start out making around 30k a year. I looked into, when I was thinking about attending Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa.
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Sith_Mauler posted: combat flying has been defined as hours of sheer boredom punctuated with a few moments of sheer terror.
That's what I heard sailing described as too. Huh, who would have thought they were so similar.
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The first thing that comes to mind is raid healing in wow. Boring repetitive task that might seem interesting the first time you did it that not many can or would be willing to do. Raid healing also jump started my alcoholism.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
deadcactus posted: I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
bus drivers in the sky. and pilots dont make crap until you get to the capt or first officer level on a big jet. those little 2 engine regional connector pilots start out making around 30k a year. I looked into, when I was thinking about attending Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa.
My friend made less than that starting out.. he used to joke with us and pretend he was talking on the mic.. "Hi I'm your captain. If you knew I made 16k a year, you probably wouldn't want to be on this plane." He's now flying the big jets and making $$
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if you have military experience as as a pilot (fighter or otherwise) do you get to skip the regional jet pipeline with respect to tenure?
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I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
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aon_mixed posted: if you have military experience as as a pilot (fighter or otherwise) do you get to skip the regional jet pipeline with respect to tenure?
I have heard that this is true, actually...
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I'm not sure about that.. My friend wasn't in the military... he had to fly so many hours before he qualified for the from plane to plane... he went from the single engine, to dual engine to jet his father was a navy pilot who used to land on aircraft carriers.
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Actually, now that I think about it I think pilots are a lot like surgeons. They have the personality and passion for their skill where the challenge of doing it even better than the last time is enough to keep them interested. Most of us would get bored around the tenth time we landed at LAX or took out an appendix, but they just can't get enough... Edit: aon_mixed posted: if you have military experience as as a pilot (fighter or otherwise) do you get to skip the regional jet pipeline with respect to tenure?
Depends on what you were flying. The guys piloting a DC-10 or helicopter are actually in a better career position once they get out than the illustrious jet pilots.
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I do however hope to reach a income level where I can afford to get a recreational helicopter lisc and a small light helo or ultra light helo. something like a mini-500
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
lolololol. Almost as good as you talking about having children...
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what about one of those ultra-lights? I've heard you don't need a pilot's license cause they don't go up very high.
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
lolololol. Almost as good as you talking about having children...
Im glad my life amuses you so much. Tell me, is it a lot of work to be such a sanctimonious douche all the time? Or does it come naturally?
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Tipztoe posted: what about one of those ultra-lights? I've heard you don't need a pilot's license cause they don't go up very high.
ultralights fall under the experimental class, hence the no need for a license
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Tipztoe posted: what about one of those ultra-lights? I've heard you don't need a pilot's license cause they don't go up very high.
Sport pilot only needs a driver's license instead of an FAA physical. The catch is that you're supposed to self-assess your fitness to fly and taking anti-psychotics is definitely going to rule that out. You could probably get the training and certification if you kept your mouth shut, but the second anything went wrong you'd be hosed...
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Onslaught. posted:
aon_mixed posted: if you have military experience as as a pilot (fighter or otherwise) do you get to skip the regional jet pipeline with respect to tenure?
I have heard that this is true, actually...
I knew a few pilots LCDR's and above that had jobs with the major carriers before they resigned, but then again I came from the P-3 community so those are big 4 engined aircraft.
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_sooz_ posted:
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
lolololol. Almost as good as you talking about having children...
Im glad my life amuses you so much. Tell me, is it a lot of work to be such a sanctimonious douche all the time? Or does it come naturally?
Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
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deadcactus posted:
Tipztoe posted: what about one of those ultra-lights? I've heard you don't need a pilot's license cause they don't go up very high.
Sport pilot only needs a driver's license instead of an FAA physical. The catch is that you're supposed to self-assess your fitness to fly and taking anti-psychotics is definitely going to rule that out. You could probably get the training and certification if you kept your mouth shut, but the second anything went wrong you'd be hosed...
are you saying I should be taking anti-psychotics meds?
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Onslaught. posted: The first thing that comes to mind is raid healing in wow. Boring repetitive task that might seem interesting the first time you did it that not many can or would be willing to do. Raid healing also jump started my alcoholism.
And you always get blamed when people die!! See, same as pilots...
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No, I just combined two conversations. The flow made sense at the time. Not so much in retrospect...
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hehe getting back on subject.. what my friend did to get the hours required was to be a flight instructor making crap money for a couple years at a little place in Louisiana. That way you don't have to flip the bill yourself for all the gas and such.. you pass the cost on to the student.
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Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
You shouldnt be, it's a serious character flaw. Sadly i probably wont see any of them, but if you keep acting this way you're going to get many, MANY well-deserved punches in the face.
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_sooz_ posted:
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Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
You shouldnt be, it's a serious character flaw. Sadly i probably wont see any of them, but if you keep acting this way you're going to get many, MANY well-deserved punches in the face.
You can't punch through the interwebz.
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Onslaught. posted:
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Onslaught. posted: [quote=_sooz_]I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
lolololol. Almost as good as you talking about having children...
Im glad my life amuses you so much. Tell me, is it a lot of work to be such a sanctimonious douche all the time? Or does it come naturally?
Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.[/quote] It's easy when you look at what he's got to work with. I don't need you 35k feet overhead when you start seeing things, thanks.
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myxomatosis8 posted:
Onslaught. posted: The first thing that comes to mind is raid healing in wow. Boring repetitive task that might seem interesting the first time you did it that not many can or would be willing to do. Raid healing also jump started my alcoholism.
And you always get blamed when people die!! See, same as pilots...
!!!!!! You're right! This further ties in with DC's surgeon analogy too!
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myxomatosis8 posted:
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Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
You shouldnt be, it's a serious character flaw. Sadly i probably wont see any of them, but if you keep acting this way you're going to get many, MANY well-deserved punches in the face.
You can't punch through the interwebz.
If he has this attitude in real life he will have some serious problems.
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_sooz_ posted:
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Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
You shouldnt be, it's a serious character flaw. Sadly i probably wont see any of them, but if you keep acting this way you're going to get many, MANY well-deserved punches in the face.
I'm starting to wonder if making fun of someone so completely insane as yourself is a good idea....
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I'm e-punching onslaught right now fall down dammit!
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meltedmossy posted:
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_sooz_ posted: [quote=Onslaught.][quote=_sooz_]I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
lolololol. Almost as good as you talking about having children...
Im glad my life amuses you so much. Tell me, is it a lot of work to be such a sanctimonious douche all the time? Or does it come naturally?
Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.[/quote] It's easy when you look at what he's got to work with. I don't need you 35k feet overhead when you start seeing things, thanks.[/quote] Did you miss the point where i said "DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN"? I already know it wont happen, and why, i was just commenting that i always wanted to learn to fly.
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Comes naturally, and I'm quite proud of it. Thanks for asking.
You shouldnt be, it's a serious character flaw. Sadly i probably wont see any of them, but if you keep acting this way you're going to get many, MANY well-deserved punches in the face.
I'm starting to wonder if making fun of someone so completely insane as yourself is a good idea....
Im not insane in the way you're insinuating. But hey, thanks for the stigma! Not like there isnt enough of THAT flying around!
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I get epunchedintheface all the time.
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Onslaught. posted: The first thing that comes to mind is raid healing in wow. Boring repetitive task that might seem interesting the first time you did it that not many can or would be willing to do. Raid healing also jump started my alcoholism.
Seriously. I'd do BWL, wake up in the morning with epics and have no idea how I got them.
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
Onslaught. posted: The first thing that comes to mind is raid healing in wow. Boring repetitive task that might seem interesting the first time you did it that not many can or would be willing to do. Raid healing also jump started my alcoholism.
Seriously. I'd do BWL, wake up in the morning with epics and have no idea how I got them.
Yep... Oddly enough it all started with BWL for me as well. I made it through MC days without getting s***faced. BWL did it.
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I blame Vael. Three months of wiping on him, then they tweaked Razorgore and we wiped on him for a month. Finally we got it down, but would usually stop raiding by the time we hit the fourth guy whose name I can't recall (just remember wing buffet because every idiot would pronounce it buff-fay over Vent) I know we killed Nefarian a few times but to this day I have no idea how the fight works. Chromaggus is just as fuzzy.
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My guild reguarlly made it to chromaggus and got stuc. The only times that I dropped Nef was was when another guild needed a healer and knew I could pull it of. They never let me get any lot.
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Not to take sides, but have you thought for a second that taunting insane people on the internet doesn't mean you'd do it in real life to an actual insane person who has the possibility of knifing you when they have a "break?"
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myxomatosis8 posted: Not to take sides, but have you thought for a second that taunting insane people on the internet doesn't mean you'd do it in real life to an actual insane person who has the possibility of knifing you when they have a "break?"
Have you ever thought that the actual percentage of "insane" people who are actually f***ing violent is less than 1 f***ing percent or something else equally low? Take 5 minutes, educate yourself about the actual FACTS, not the freaking sensationalized bullsh*t and stop perpetuating stigma.
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myxomatosis8 posted: Not to take sides, but have you thought for a second that taunting insane people on the internet doesn't mean you'd do it in real life to an actual insane person who has the possibility of knifing you when they have a "break?"
I taunt pretty much anyone. Thursday I got drunk and made fun of two guys that were over 6'8" and outweighed me by at least 100lbs each by calling them bros repeatedly. When I'm bored, I really stop caring.
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
you are medically unable to be a pilot.
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
you are medically unable to be a pilot.
No sh*t, Sherlock.
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Relax chiquita, you're the one who brought up being punched, not my fault.
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myxomatosis8 posted: Relax chiquita, you're the one who brought up being punched, not my fault.
I didnt say i was going to punch him! I said if he acts that way around people, people are going to punch him. Nothing to do with mental illness at all, just stating a fact.
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myxomatosis8 posted: Relax chiquita, you're the one who brought up being punched, not my fault.
I didnt say i was going to punch him! I said if he acts that way around people, people are going to punch him. Nothing to do with mental illness at all, just stating a fact.
You want to bash my brains in. Are you arch_magi?
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myxomatosis8 posted: Relax chiquita, you're the one who brought up being punched, not my fault.
I didnt say i was going to punch him! I said if he acts that way around people, people are going to punch him. Nothing to do with mental illness at all, just stating a fact.
You want to bash my brains in. Are you arch_magi?
I can say with my hand on my heart, i have no desire to hit you. But i wont lie, if i saw someone punch you in the face i would crack up laughing. So no, not arch_magi. Sorry.
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_sooz_ posted: [quote=myxomatosis8]Relax chiquita, you're the one who brought up being punched, not my fault.
I didnt say i was going to punch him! I said if he acts that way around people, people are going to punch him. Nothing to do with mental illness at all, just stating a fact.
You want to bash my brains in. Are you arch_magi?
I can say with my hand on my heart, i have no desire to hit you. But i wont lie, if i saw someone punch you in the face i would crack up laughing. So no, not arch_magi. Sorry.[/quote] That's funny. I have no desire to see you experience physical harm. As a matter of fact, I think you need serious help SOON before you inflict harm on yourself or one of the two or three people that are close to you.
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That's funny. I have no desire to see you experience physical harm. As a matter of fact, I think you need serious help SOON before you inflict harm on yourself or one of the two or three people that are close to you.
Assuming you're being genuine, then i will give you a genuine response. I have help.. Serious help. The PROFESSIONALS whose care i am under dont see me as a threat to anyone, so really you should stop worrying about it. I and those around me are in no danger.
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That's funny. I have no desire to see you experience physical harm. As a matter of fact, I think you need serious help SOON before you inflict harm on yourself or one of the two or three people that are close to you.
Assuming you're being genuine, then i will give you a genuine response. I have help.. Serious help. The PROFESSIONALS whose care i am under dont see me as a threat to anyone, so really you should stop worrying about it. I and those around me are in no danger.
Until you subvert their PROFESSIONAL help with outside drugs like excessive alcohol and common sense things like horror movies? Yep.
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That's funny. I have no desire to see you experience physical harm. As a matter of fact, I think you need serious help SOON before you inflict harm on yourself or one of the two or three people that are close to you.
Assuming you're being genuine, then i will give you a genuine response. I have help.. Serious help. The PROFESSIONALS whose care i am under dont see me as a threat to anyone, so really you should stop worrying about it. I and those around me are in no danger.
Until you subvert their PROFESSIONAL help with outside drugs like excessive alcohol and common sense things like horror movies? Yep.
I dont drink excessively. Unless two beers is excessive to you. And horror movies have no impact on my illness, but nice try.
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You're the weirdest attention whore ever, sooze. I'm happy to be of help, I guess....
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Onslaught. posted: You're the weirdest attention whore ever, sooze. I'm happy to be of help, I guess....
Im not an attention whore, i just am who i am. And you're not "happy to help", you enjoy being a bully. Dont kid yourself.
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Onslaught. posted: You're the weirdest attention whore ever, sooze. I'm happy to be of help, I guess....
Im not an attention whore
Even if you're not, I suggest that you advertise that you are. Just saying. =]
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Onslaught. posted: You're the weirdest attention whore ever, sooze. I'm happy to be of help, I guess....
Im not an attention whore
Even if you're not, I suggest that you advertise that you are. Just saying. =]
You know what i'll do? I'll be who i am, act how i act and those who like me, will like me. Those who dont are welcome to sit and swivel, because i really dont care what it is about me they dont like etc. And i guess that includes you
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You behave in such a stupid/insane manner that people don't think you can be real unless you're an elaborate troll. You're so f***ed up that people don't want to believe that someone could be that f***ed up.
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Onslaught. posted: You behave in such a stupid/insane manner that people don't think you can be real unless you're an elaborate troll. You're so f***ed up that people don't want to believe that someone could be that f***ed up.
You know the funny thing? If you met me IRL you'd probably like me. Im not very articulate online which means that my goal to never hide my illness (to fight stigma) makes me come across as a little crazier than i am. But basically im a likeable, charismatic and (dare i say it), basically normal person IRL, if a little shy at times. You wouldnt immediately go "OMG SHE'S CRAZY" because it's not immediately obvious, unless i tell you. Online? Not so much, im a lot more vocal and maybe that works to my detriment. But i still refuse to change because i think people with mental illnesses shouldnt feel like they have to hide or cover up.
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_sooz_ posted: I always wanted to learn to fly, doubt that will happen though
there's a weight limit on that.
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Sooz, I know a few people like you in real life. I don't like you. I put up with you because I don't want anyone to get stabbed and because I'm good at maintaining the peace. Does that mean I like you? No.. I just pretend to.
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Onslaught. posted: Sooz, I know a few people like you in real life. I don't like you. I put up with you because I don't want anyone to get stabbed and because I'm good at maintaining the peace. Does that mean I like you? No.. I just pretend to.
And again you resort to stigma and bullying instead of saying anything real Im done, there's a lovely 3-mile walk with my name on it, and im not going to miss it to read any more of your uneducated drivel.
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deadcactus posted: I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
bus drivers in the sky. and pilots dont make crap until you get to the capt or first officer level on a big jet. those little 2 engine regional connector pilots start out making around 30k a year. I looked into, when I was thinking about attending Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa.
You also spend your first several years as an instructor, as it's the only reasonable way to get the required hours to get a real pilot job. So you have the barely know WTF is going on, teaching the Don't know WTF is going on.
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deadcactus posted: I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
bus drivers in the sky. and pilots dont make crap until you get to the capt or first officer level on a big jet. those little 2 engine regional connector pilots start out making around 30k a year. I looked into, when I was thinking about attending Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa.
You also spend your first several years as an instructor, as it's the only reasonable way to get the required hours to get a real pilot job. So you have the barely know WTF is going on, teaching the Don't know WTF is going on.
That is why I was looking at Spartan, when you graduate from their pilot program you have around 1000-1500 flight hours with all your different ratings and a bs/ba degree in something aviation related. So you get to skip that step but its still a long ladder to climb before you can earn the big bucks flying 777's and such.
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Please warn us of the day you get a pilot license Sith... I want to make sure I never fly again after that as the skies won't be safe.
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_sooz_ posted: Onslaught. posted: You're the weirdest attention whore ever, sooze. I'm happy to be of help, I guess....
Im not an attention whore
omfg. i'm still laughing.
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Sith_Mauler posted: [quote=deadcactus]I never saw the appeal of being a career pilot. Flying for fun seems awesome. Flying the same route for hours a day as your job? No thanks.
bus drivers in the sky. and pilots dont make crap until you get to the capt or first officer level on a big jet. those little 2 engine regional connector pilots start out making around 30k a year. I looked into, when I was thinking about attending Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa.
You also spend your first several years as an instructor, as it's the only reasonable way to get the required hours to get a real pilot job. So you have the barely know WTF is going on, teaching the Don't know WTF is going on.
That is why I was looking at Spartan, when you graduate from their pilot program you have around 1000-1500 flight hours with all your different ratings and a bs/ba degree in something aviation related. So you get to skip that step but its still a long ladder to climb before you can earn the big bucks flying 777's and such. [/quote] The college nearby has a degree in Aviation - Helicopter Pilot. I took the first quarter of classes for that, really enjoyed them actually, but then after I was diagnosed with cancer, decided to give it up, I'll be old enough when I get the all clear on my medical that the number of years I could fly will not make up for the $60k cost to get to 1500 hours.
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The aviation career path is all sorts of f--ked up. People actually pay to work just to build up hours hoping for a real job...
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