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LA Weekly Article on Green Day
?One of the most mainstream punk bands since the new millennium, Green Day has faced criticism for selling out ever since releasing 2004's American Idiot -- some would say as far back as after the release of 1994's Dookie.
Fuck that. They didn't sell out. In fact, songs on American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown resonate just as deeply as those on Dookie.
Check out the video embedded in link. I like these guys.
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your a sell out as soon as you go from playing small gigs/clubs, to big arenas with a beer sponsor.
so yes, green day has sold out.
who cares, that makes them american!
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They are American Idiots, ergo railing on the American idiot is selling out and hypocritical. I've always enjoyed Green Day but did not like their latest music.
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I don't think they sold out.
They also never made any good music.
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Fat Wong's argument means your audience must remain small. That is as ludicrous as determining success on popularity. I disagree with the Fat man. 
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you glossed over the beer sponsor part.
or any corporate sponsorship for that matter.
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Satan Panonski never sold out
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The article states explicitly, they were commercialized.
This brings up a very interesting debate which has been around since the sixties: Is commercial art-music less than non commercial art-music? I mean to not be successful all you have to do is stand up on stage and fart into the microphone. Is that good?
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selling out and being successful is not mutual.
though selling out prolly helps
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People need to stop saying bands sell out.
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Green Day is pop or bubblegum punk. I put them up there as being as punk as Avril Lavigne.
The Sex Pistols were punk. Early DRI before Crossover is punk. Black Flag, The Dead Kennedys... that is punk.
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Fat_wong posted:
selling out and being successful is not mutual.
though selling out prolly helps
Can you name any 'successful' bands (whatever definition you prefer) that didn't 'sell out' at some point? I honestly can't think of any. I think even Phish and The Grateful Dead had sponsors on their tours.
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I don't think Slayer has ever sold out musically. they still make the same thrash they did 30ish years ago.
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