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they are making wz's next month team based, instead of faction based.
and removing rewards for open world pvp.
2 1/2 months after launch
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Boom, explosions.
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eh... I cancelled my sub yesterday. I got 14 more days to play it but frankly I doubt I will even log in.
I'm bored of it. LOTRO is actually a far more developed game and fwiw more fun... + I have a lifetime account
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I havent logged since sunday now.
I just lost interest in doing the same daily's, same heroics, and same ops this fast after launch.
Everything was way to easy to get in this game.
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Every MMO does this sort of thing now
Bam pow wow! Look at us!
2 months later they dumb it down.
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They are just making it so the most populous faction doesn't get so much huttball. I prefer lots of huttball myself.
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source?
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2 months later they dumb it down.
it was already so dumb my 5 year old was playing it.
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i say give them a pass...they DID kill WoW and all!
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source?
google patch 1.2 notes or guild summit notes TOR.
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Haha, so Mythic has successfully destroyed open world PvP in two straight games. That's serious clusterf*** talent right there.
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remember when some idiot said this was the wow killer?
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To be fair to Bioware, they are doing great changes for the game overall. They admit to their mistakes too. But it is a little maddening that they even thought Ilum would work. Oh and that they didn't act quicker to turn off the valor in it when it was giving too much for those 6-8 hours a few patches ago.
I think they are learning though. I hope so anyway. They SEEM to be listening.
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Haha, so Mythic has successfully destroyed open world PvP in two straight games. That's serious clusterf*** talent right there.
Huh? What?
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To be fair to Bioware, they are doing great changes for the game overall. They admit to their mistakes too. But it is a little maddening that they even thought Ilum would work. Oh and that they didn't act quicker to turn off the valor in it when it was giving too much for those 6-8 hours a few patches ago.
I think they are learning though. I hope so anyway. They SEEM to be listening.
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Unless I'm reading the changes wrong, there's literally no real reason to Open World PvP...
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To be fair to Bioware, they are doing great changes for the game overall. They admit to their mistakes too. But it is a little maddening that they even thought Ilum would work. Oh and that they didn't act quicker to turn off the valor in it when it was giving too much for those 6-8 hours a few patches ago.
I think they are learning though. I hope so anyway. They SEEM to be listening.
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Unless I'm reading the changes wrong, there's literally no real reason to Open World PvP...
There is a reason why WOW doesn't have much open world pvp either. There simply isn't a good enough system in either game to make it work. Trying to script open world pvp is what makes it fail imo. But that's the case in most games. I am talking about warzones and the way they are handling medals/gear/valor etc. that is evolving in a good direction.
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STAR WARS PVP
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There is a reason why WOW doesn't have much open world pvp either. There simply isn't a good enough system in either game to make it work. Trying to script open world pvp is what makes it fail imo. But that's the case in most games. I am talking about warzones and the way they are handling medals/gear/valor etc. that is evolving in a good direction.
I guess it depends on what you enjoy. Fans of open world pvp just got told to GTFO in SWTOR. It'll be a ghost town. If you're a fan of small team based PvP, it's probably a benefit but it comes at the cost of most any significant OPvP.
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There is a reason why WOW doesn't have much open world pvp either. There simply isn't a good enough system in either game to make it work. Trying to script open world pvp is what makes it fail imo. But that's the case in most games. I am talking about warzones and the way they are handling medals/gear/valor etc. that is evolving in a good direction.
I guess it depends on what you enjoy. Fans of open world pvp just got told to GTFO in SWTOR. It'll be a ghost town. If you're a fan of small team based PvP, it's probably a benefit but it comes at the cost of most any significant OPvP.
Are you calling Ilum open world PVP? And are you actually sad it's going away? MY GOD COLLECTING THOSE ARMAMENTS WAS EPIC! :P Base camping the repubs was almost as stimulating.
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STAR WARS PVP
That is the sweetest thing lol
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Are you calling Ilum open world PVP? And are you actually sad it's going away? MY GOD COLLECTING THOSE ARMAMENTS WAS EPIC! :P Base camping the repubs was almost as stimulating.
Well, you have a point. SWTOR didn't really implement anything that could be considered competent open world PvP, so calling Ilum opvp is a little misleading. :P I think what I'm most sad about it PvP in SWTOR is sitting in Fleet watching Sith talk about making strippers cry while you wait for the WZ to pop. The entire design of PvP in SWTOR is more or less T1-T3 Warhammer PvP...waiting for an instance to pop for your 10v10 battle. That makes me sad.
Then again, ME3 is out and GW2 or PS2 beta will be around soon, so I think my tour in SWTOR is about done anyway.
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Two faction open world pvp never works well. One side will almost always outnumber the other, this is why DAOC did so well is because there were 3 sides. The patch is basically releasing more hutt based warzones so same factions can compete so people on the over populated side play something other than huttball. The faction imbalance is not a new thing and has been around since launch and there is no practical way to fix it.
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STAR WARS PVP
That is the sweetest thing lol
I have to agree lol. kids are so cute
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Don't play MMOs, they will always stagnate and you will ask yourself why you're wasting your life grinding xp/items/whatever
Play real games you noob
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STAR WARS PVP
Exactly the same as WoW pvp...
Good PVP is hard to come by.
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i hope gw2 doesn't suck.
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STAR WARS PVP
Exactly the same as WoW pvp...
Good PVP is hard to come by.
DAoC was the best PvP I have ever experienced in an MMO.
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STAR WARS PVP
Exactly the same as WoW pvp...
Good PVP is hard to come by.
DAoC was the best PvP I have ever experienced in an MMO.
is it even worth starting in DAoC now?
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[blockquote]aon_mixed posted:
STAR WARS PVP
Exactly the same as WoW pvp...
Good PVP is hard to come by.
DAoC was the best PvP I have ever experienced in an MMO.
is it even worth starting in DAoC now?
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no. the amount of daoc love on vn is hilarious. they all forget what it actually was and think of it as some mystical fantastic game that was the best it will ever be. this is either because it was their first mmo (i feel this way about uo. but i understand why and know i would hate uo today.) or because vn was the official boards for daoc as they didn't bother running their own. either way, the population on here that played daoc is massive. if it was as good as everyone still thinks it is, they'd still be playing it. i mean everything else aside, the lag you get between input and the action happening will drive you off before you get to level 2.
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Ilum sucks. Yay, collect armaments while I wait for WZ to pop.
I don't understand why companies have such a hard time with open world pvp. It's actually very easy to implement. Simply make servers like Darktide, and add in battleground/warzone type stuff for group pvp. In other words, you can attack your own faction and others at any time.
The other problem in SWTOR is that if you play both sides of the fence, they re-use a lot of areas for the Republic and the Imperials via phasing, so there's no chance of seeing anyone anyway.
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DAoC was one of the best PvPs (I loved Darktide too, so simple, so epic) in it's time. Of course it is outdated and terrible now. You are making an argument like the musket was worthless, because we have M4A1 assault rifles now. In its' time, it was a big deal. That's why we theorycraft and wonder about what made it so. RvR was the most epic fun a lot of us ever had in MMOs; that speaks for itself more than anything. None of us will be talking about SWTOR years and years after its release so fondly.
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