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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7654150/indianapolis-colts-owner-jim-irsay-better-hope-made-right-call-peyton-manning
one of the better articles written on the saga...it's hard to find quality amongst the so called experts. it's hard to realize that Manning wont be a Colt...im sure other fans in the past can understand how i feel, such fans from SF, Balt. Colts, diehard Farve fans from GB. sadly in the end of the day my loyalty is too the team and not the player, since the players loyalty usually isnt to the fans. i take exception in Manning, and honestly feel that he wanted to retire as a Colt, but the clock was ticking on a 28mil timebomb...i can understand the buisness decision, but it's one of those things that is going to be difficult to see in the future.
...../sigh.....
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I feel the same way about Pujols.. 
I still think it was the wrong decision. Having Manning as a colt is worth much more in merchandise, advertising, and putting people in the seats in the long run than his payout he was due.
Also, someone should have told him how well his team did in its first year without Manning as QB.. 
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Finally, the day is here. That cry baby is no longer a Colt. Go to another division and ruin life for the teams in that division Manning cause I am tired of looking at your ugly horse face twice a year. I hope Luck is a fluke, the Colts dont deserve another super star quarterback one season after losing one of the best to ever play the game.
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Finally, the day is here. That cry baby is no longer a Colt. Go to another division and ruin life for the teams in that division Manning cause I am tired of looking at your ugly horse face twice a year. I hope Luck is a fluke, the Colts dont deserve another super star quarterback one season after losing one of the best to ever play the game.
Someone is butthurt. Was glad to see it finally over. Now it will be interesting to see where he goes. You can make an argument that 20+ of the NFL teams would be better with Manning.
Hopefully he is healthy and has a few more years left. I enjoy watching him play.
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I still have some resentment towards the Eagles not holding onto Dawkins. That loss of leadership was a pretty big rift imo and still hasn't been filled. They should have just shelled out the $5mil/year or whatever Dawkins got in Denver for his leadership alone. And he is still making plays in Denver. Cheap teams - business decisions - blah blah blah.
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agree, and you could have saved money by not signing the dumpster fire of V.Young.
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I like the way the Eagles conducted business up to this past season. I didnt like the free agency spending fest the went on, but other than that the Kolb and McRibb trades were great, and the decision to buy into Vick was good as well. I think the Eagles will get their act together this next season and look more like a dream team than the nightmare team they looked like for most of last season. Rather or not Irsay is right on Manning, letting Manning go is the best decision. Assuming he plays another four years you risk losing Manning and your heir to Manning at the exact same times. Four years from now the Colts would be a disaster in that scenario, they could be facing the potential of having to pay Andrew Luck huge money without ever seeing him on the field, and then going through growing pains for Luck at that point. Even with a healthy Manning I do not buy into the Colts being the power house they once were, I just do not see it at all. The rush ends are getting old and beaten up, the offensive line is still not that great, they have no running game to rely upon, and the defense is just as average as it has been for the past few years. May as well cut Manning and get the rebuild going again. The Colts had a historic run, but like all things it has come to an end. Be thankful for the run that you had and realize that what happened to the Colts this past decade was very far away from the NFL norm. If you understand that, it will make the next decade much easier to handle.
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I didn't mind the Eagles spending fest last season. I thought VY wasn't a bad signing for a back up either. He won a bunch of games in Tenn. But him spouting off "dream team" sigh... that pissed me off so much. The Eagles had the money to spend and did it. At least they didn't do dumb free agent signings like Snider and the Redskins usually do. Our signings all panned out for the most part.
Coaching on defense and the holes at the linebacker position continue to haunt the Eagles since the death of JJ.
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...well the fire sale continues. Clark, Bullitt, Addai all released today. Freeney is up for trade. it's going to be a interesting year next season at the bottom of the AFC south.
Amendial, i agree with all your points regarding the Colts. it was the best decision, but still is hard to swallow as a fan.
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Manning to the Broncos, this should be interesting. Now I am not alone in being a Manning hater in Kansas.
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Saturday and Clark might be joining him as well...went from a Colt to a Bronco, the poor AFC west just wont be the same.
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I think Saturday will be joining him. Clark I don't know. But they could use some TE's in Denver. I think SF was the better fit and overall team, but Denver is in a bad division so he will probably put up 10 wins. Assuming healthy.
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...and he gets to run the O his way. that wasnt such the case at the other 2.
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Eric Decker is the happiest man in the world right now.
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Eric Decker will be the most overrated WR in fantasy next year, bank on it.
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Eric Decker will be the most overrated WR in fantasy next year, bank on it.
I don't think he will be too over-hyped. Demarius Thomas is sure to get hyped a lot though. Regardless, Manning makes everyone around him better.
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I wont be surprised to see Thomas go in the second round of many fantasy drafts next year and he will not be worth that high of a selection. No way I see Denver just turning into an air raid offense over night. They will definitely throw much more than they did this season, but the running attack will still be a great point of emphasis in the new Denver offense.
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I believe Decker was a top 10 fantasy WR or close to it last season which is pretty amazing with a qb completing only 45%. The thing is I'm not sure if thats because he can consistently get separation or if it was just a product of the stupid offense they ran. He might be way overrated going into drafts next season or he could be a stud. It will be interesting to see what his avg draft position is.
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the numbers will improve...i dont think even Amendial with his hate of one of the greatest QB's of all time can dispute the fact. how much is the question. Tebow's strong point wasnt his passing, Manning's prep work, study, and accuracy is. ill be anxious to see Manning in pre-season to see how he is...
Denver's attack is going to be balanced, but now they will be able to take more pressure off of the run...so let' see how high Mcgahee climbs!
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I dont think his numbers will change a ton, but we will see. I think you can take all the Tebow passing numbers, add his rushing yards to the passing column and then add about 25% more while increasing the completion percentage by about 20 and you will get the Manning passing numbers in the Denver offense. That extra 20% will come from more first downs and more offensive plays. But once Manning gets his numbers, I dont know if there will be much room for improvement for McGahee. Its hard to say. My thought on Decker is that there will be two other recievers that will step up and start getting numbers. Decker was the primary guy for most the year on a team that never had to deal with a defense who was playing the pass. That will all change now. I am just predicting that people are going to completely overestimate how Deckers numbers in the new offense.
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rumor is that your JAX could be getting Tebow...
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Thats been a rumor for a long time. The only way that trade happens is if the new owner tells Gene Smith to do it. If we do trade for him I will be one pissed off person, I already threatened to burn all my Jaguars stuff if we get Tebow. Probably wont go that far, but it says something that I will be more pissed about getting Tebow than I was when we drafted a Missouri Tiger.
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Always room for another Colt fan my friend!
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Colts are near the bottom of the list of teams I would ever consider jumping ship to root for. Near the top would probably be KC, Carolina, Bills, and the Cardinals.
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Tebow to the Jets, WOOOOOOOO. Dodged a bullet on that one. So glad that Tebow is staying away from the Jaguars, I still have faith that Blain Gabbert can become an elite QB in the NFL.
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Now I hear the Jets trade for Tebow has hit a snag, and the Jaguars are trying to get back in the running. I cannot take this crap, even if we dont land Tebow (I really, really hope this is the case) it is still a slap in the face that we even considered it a possibility. Come on Khan, I thought you were going to be a great owner but this is not the way a great owner acts. Let Gene Smith run the franchise and build us a winner, instead of catering to the crybaby Gator fans that think Tebow is the second coming of Jesus.
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you lucked out... no pun intended, since i just watched Luck's pro day and how he performed. tebow to the Jets, is terrible...puts a assload of pressure on Sanchez which is warranted, but i think it will decreased Ryan's coaching career in New York. Now tebow has came out and said, which he should that he thinks he can and will be the starter in New York...should be interesting drama, and finally the drama is off my Colts.
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