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Yes, it's just the reality of nuclear weapons, it's best that unstable nations do not have them. While it'd be better if no one had them, that's not feasible.
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just send Mithan to mod ban the living sh*it out of the Ayatollah.
the rest will fall into line so fast it'd be hillarious
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Yes, it's just the reality of nuclear weapons, it's best that unstable nations do not have them. While it'd be better if no one had them, that's not feasible.
While I agree it makes me uncomfortable to tell any soverign nation what kind of defenses they can and cannot have. I wouldnt want say England threatening to invade the US because we have nuclear capabilities. Yes I know that is not the same situation at all. Like I said I agree with you that they shouldnt have it, but it still seems kinda wrong in a way. Ugh maybe my point is clear here? lol I dunno how else to put it.
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HELL NO!
We aren't even done with the two stupid wars the previous president started, no way we need another one. Who gives a flying eff if Iran gets the bomb?. Hell, it would be better if they DID get the bomb...then all this stupid talk of going to war with 75 million people would go the hell away.
Anyone who claims to care about the deficit, needs to shut the hell up about starting another war with a country that is in no position to harm us militarily. Same goes for anyone who claims to care about the military.
Iran is moving towards a secular government, the people there can handle it, if we go in we just have another country we have to spend trillions of dollars and thousands of lives on....for nothing. Not to mention the fact that invading another country in that area is sure to create a world of crap for us from every other mideast country.
If Israel wants to stop them, that's their choice. We give them billions of dollars in aid and billions of dollars in weapons every damn year.....let them "fix" the problem if they want to do so.
Pakistan has the bomb, North Korea can build one...yet no one is advocating going to war with either of them....and they hate our fricken guts more than Iran does. The best possible outcome of all this crap is Iran builds a god damned bomb. I hope they build one tomorrow, so everyone will shut up about war with them and we can do the sensible thing and become most favored trading partners and/or "allies" with them....like we did with China, and Russia, and Pakistan. Then instead of all this crazy talk, we can make money and create jobs by doing business with them. That will help their people a hell of a lot more than blowing them up would, and it would make us a hell of a lot safer too.
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Yes. We are already around there with our toys, may as well use what we are spending our tax dollars on.
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As long as it isnt ours.
We cant afford it.
If the world doesn't want a nuclear Iran, then they need to pony up the forces and money to deal with it.
I am not worried about a nuclear Iran, they don't have a rocket big enough to lob it far enough to hit us.
All those other poor bastards, that live with in range of their missiles, well that's your issue.
They could cause pain and discontent with oil disruptions, then I say go for it.
Anything that forces us to make the changes that will ween us from the middle eastern oil tit, I support.
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No.
If they get nukes and use them they will be gone... I honestly think more people having nukes will probably keep the world a safer place... people will be too scared to invade other people and we can worry about ourselves.
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Where's the "Isn't Israel going to take care of this?" option?
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Where's the "Isn't Israel going to take care of this?" option?
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The Sunni muslims better watch the &$*( out if they get a bomb.
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its funny when I hear people say "they dont have a rocket big enough"
they could easily just hand Hamas a bunch of radioactive material and let THEM assf'k us with it but dont worry its ok. as long as they cant shoot a rocket to hit us with it we're good.
they could take a couple scoop fulls of that crap and drop it in the reservoir of a city but yeah, you'll be fine.
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THERE WILL BE MORE BLOWBACK IF WE WERE TO GO TO ANOTHER WAR. Peace is the only option from this day forth we must make peace with these people. The US will no longer exist for our kids. We are the #1 enemy through out the world? How long can we hold everyone back?
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It's crazy how easily you are all manipulated by the media to go to war. I thought Obama got elected by preaching peace. Now all you tards have flipped around. Bush 2012!!!!!!! YAAAA
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We have troops and military hardware all over the frickin world it would be easy for them to hit us with their missiles, they don't have to shoot them far.
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I am seriously moving to Canada, can I stay in your garden shed FYC? I'll upkeep your yard and everything.
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Once you get the American sheeple scared you can pretty much do anything.
Lets start spreading rumors that terrorists are going to dump some radioactive material in our water and create a new federal agency that runs around with radiation detectors searching our homes/streets/any public place.
Then start crying about it a few years later when you voted your "freedom" away and try and blame it on everyone else.
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I am seriously moving to Canada, can I stay in your garden shed FYC? I'll upkeep your yard and everything.
From what I hear about Canada, you might be too poor to move there because they only let you in if you have about a half million dollars cash or more.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7401241n
Was watching this story this morning on the news and when the part came on with Larry King asking Mahmoud Ahmadinejad if he had any information and he had that stupid smirk on his face(Mahmoud Ahmadinejad), my husband blurted out...they should just blow him up!
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No, of course not.
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I am seriously moving to Canada, can I stay in your garden shed FYC? I'll upkeep your yard and everything.
From what I hear about Canada, you might be too poor to move there because they only let you in if you have about a half million dollars cash or more.
I realize that I am stuck here unless I ride a moose over the border. I have no skills, no country would take me.
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no, there is no Constitutional (lawful) authority for it
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If there is we should have the same role as we did in Libya.
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no, there is no Constitutional (lawful) authority for it
U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8
"The Congress shall have Power... To declare War..."
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WhipSmack posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
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I am seriously moving to Canada, can I stay in your garden shed FYC? I'll upkeep your yard and everything.
From what I hear about Canada, you might be too poor to move there because they only let you in if you have about a half million dollars cash or more.
I realize that I am stuck here unless I ride a moose over the border. I have no skills, no country would take me.
None? Damn man, you need to get some edumacation.
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I think we should take an opposite tack here. To show we are not against them having nukes, we should encourage them to build one. Give them 90 days to produce a bomb and detonate it as proof or we drop our own on Tehran.
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No
There's zero evidence that supports that their nuclear program is for anything other than power. There's more evidence saying they AREN'T making nuclear weapons. All "evidence" that the US and Israel has is speculation, the same sort of evidence that got us into that ****storm we all call the War on Terror and the Iraq War
There's even a fataw against nuclear weapons enacted by the Ayatollah in Iran
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jeune posted:
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no, there is no Constitutional (lawful) authority for it
U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8
"The Congress shall have Power... To declare War..."
but it hasn't happened yet, has it? The last lawful war if the US was WWII
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no (14 votes)
what gives the right to us,uk, france, and israel to have nukes but not anyone else???
!@#$% that.
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no (14 votes)
what gives the right to us,uk, france, and israel to have nukes but not anyone else???
!@#$% that.
While I would hate to see Iran become nuclear capable, I agree with this. Who are we to dictate to a sovereign nation that they can't achieve what we already have (and used on another nation to boot). Diplomacy is certainly encouraged but military action should be off the table.
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I like that Americans have tasked themselves with keeping other nations in a technological stone age. You guys are the villains of the 21st century.
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lets not mix words here... what we are really talking about is the use of force to ensure that Iran actually conforms to the treaty that THEY SIGNED ON FOR... ah yes, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran
And this is the same game of Chicken that Saddam pulled if you people can think back that far
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the treaty was forced on everyone by the rich nations in the past. only rich nations had the power. when china came along, they were force to accept china into the club. but they wouldn't force this on india or pakistan or israel would they? treaty was made so none western powers after china couldn't came into the club. but they didn't foresee the rise of the rest of the globe in turns of economic power. that's why they don't bother with india or pakistan. if they force one the other will complain.
israel is white enough for them so they don't bother with that.
it was a rich man's world and rich mans club.
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I You guys are the villains of the 21st century.
take that back!!!
Americans have been villans for a lot linger than that!
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
lets not mix words here... what we are really talking about is the use of force to ensure that Iran actually conforms to the treaty that THEY SIGNED ON FOR... ah yes, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran
you mean that treaty that Israel has refused to sign, by your logic, why are we not going after them since they haven't even signed that treaty while Iran has?
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Fozzie_Bear posted:
lets not mix words here... what we are really talking about is the use of force to ensure that Iran actually conforms to the treaty that THEY SIGNED ON FOR... ah yes, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran
you mean that treaty that Israel has refused to sign, by your logic, why are we not going after them since they haven't even signed that treaty while Iran has?
I think you answered your own question. Not going after Israel because never agreed to it perhaps? Sheesh.
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I think you answered your own question. Not going after Israel because never agreed to it perhaps? Sheesh.
Than the solution is simple. Let Iran revoke their membership of the treaty and they can enjoy the same status as Israel who we see as not a threat
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My thing is that we shouldnt walk into this alone. the UN needs to be onboard this time, not like Iraq
as for them signing it... they signed it.
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My thing is that we shouldnt walk into this alone. the UN needs to be onboard this time, not like Iraq
The UN is an entity which has no legitimacy, legally or morally
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Republicans want to start more wars so they can complain about Democrats not cleaning it up fast enough.
Lieberman?
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un is a joke, you know how many times the us veto un lol. alot that means international opinion doesn't matter as long as it suits the us.
look at the vetoes usually the villains veto alot more than the real intentional players.
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I think you answered your own question. Not going after Israel because never agreed to it perhaps? Sheesh.
Than the solution is simple. Let Iran revoke their membership of the treaty and they can enjoy the same status as Israel who we see as not a threat
Problem solved and no need for a war
That would be simple except that the United States helped them develop their nuclear program as part of the Atoms for Peace. Since they already benefited from the exchange of scientific knowledge, they can't just drop out without repercussions. Stop spouting shiz out of your fingertips and read a little.
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If the UN has to get involved it should be focusing on more important, real matters than some make believe accusations the US and Israel have made against Iran. How about Uganda and killing Joseph Kony? Sounds like a A-OK thing to do to me
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If the UN has to get involved it should be focusing on more important, real matters than some make believe accusations the US and Israel have made against Iran. How about Uganda and killing Joseph Kony? Sounds like a A-OK thing to do to me
how is Iran refusing to let an inspector actually inspect a site (ala doing their JOB to ensure compliance) a make-believe accusation?
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Tie breaker voted FOR.
If Iran wants them.the bomb that is, we should send then some, right where they are working on them.
The sooner we start blowing anyone to smitherenes who attempts to make one, the sooner the nuclear non-proliferation treaty does what was intended.
Our inaction is going to bring about WWIII just like out inaction brought WWII.
Iran has been engaging us in war since their revolution.
GWB attacked the wrong country, I trust Obama to attack the right one.
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Tie breaker voted FOR.
If Iran wants them.the bomb that is, we should send then some, right where they are working on them.
The sooner we start blowing anyone to smitherenes who attempts to make one, the sooner the nuclear non-proliferation treaty does what was intended.
Our inaction is going to bring about WWIII just like out inaction brought WWII.
Iran has been engaging us in war since their revolution.
GWB attacked the wrong country, I trust Obama to attack the right one.
GO PREZ!
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No, if they have them Israel will play nicer with them. I think we should stop helping Israel too.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
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I think you answered your own question. Not going after Israel because never agreed to it perhaps? Sheesh.
Than the solution is simple. Let Iran revoke their membership of the treaty and they can enjoy the same status as Israel who we see as not a threat
Problem solved and no need for a war
That would be simple except that the United States helped them develop their nuclear program as part of the Atoms for Peace.
The US helped the Shah [ American Puppet ] develop a nuclear power plant not the current government who the US paid the Shah to supress
Pick up a history book, you might learn something
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the_great_ontex posted:
If the UN has to get involved it should be focusing on more important, real matters than some make believe accusations the US and Israel have made against Iran. How about Uganda and killing Joseph Kony? Sounds like a A-OK thing to do to me
how is Iran refusing to let an inspector actually inspect a site (ala doing their JOB to ensure compliance) a make-believe accusation?
here are some facts to remember
Iran is a member of the NPT, Israel is not
Iran allows IEAE inspectors to do their job, Israel does not allow those inspectors in the country
Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, Israel has 100s
Since coming to power in 1979, Iran has not invaded any country, the same cannot be said about Israel
Lastly, Iran is not asking the US to send young men and women to die in an attack against Israel, however Israel is asking for such deaths of Americans in an attack on Iran
Israel has been the loudest voice for this war, but after reviewing the facts, it can be plainly seen that it is Israel, not Iran, that is the rogue nation in that region
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I think you answered your own question. Not going after Israel because never agreed to it perhaps? Sheesh.
Than the solution is simple. Let Iran revoke their membership of the treaty and they can enjoy the same status as Israel who we see as not a threat
Problem solved and no need for a war
That would be simple except that the United States helped them develop their nuclear program as part of the Atoms for Peace.
The US helped the Shah [ American Puppet ] develop a nuclear power plant not the current government who the US paid the Shah to supress
Pick up a history book, you might learn something[/quote]
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If Iran gets very close they're going to get attacked on a massive scale. That's just how things are right now.
If they successfully create nukes before an attack, they'll get attacked harder.
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We have troops and military hardware all over the frickin world it would be easy for them to hit us with their missiles, they don't have to shoot them far.
so bring them home problem solved.
we cant afford to be the world police anymore.
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Doesn't make much sense to me.
Who are we to say they can or can't have Nukes? Especially when us, Isreal, and Pakistan have them.
That would be like Iran telling us, You can't have nukes but Canada (who hypothetically speaking, hates us) and Mexico can.
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We have troops and military hardware all over the frickin world it would be easy for them to hit us with their missiles, they don't have to shoot them far.
so bring them home problem solved.
we cant afford to be the world police anymore.
We can't afford NOT to be the world police. So many countries need saving.
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Yeah and the Normans killed Saxons, let's get those Norman bastards.
Some of us know all about the coup of 1953, so what, this is now not then.
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Since coming to power in 1979, Iran has not invaded any country, the same cannot be said about Israel
Wait a minute now....didn't Bush Sr. run them back into their own country?
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I just told you all that I know
which is why that makes you response so sad and why I had to correct and educate you
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I just told you all that I know
which is why that makes you response so sad and why I had to correct and educate you
HURP! I FIX POAST! Stop acting like a retard and act like the intelligent person that we all know you are.
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If the UN has to get involved it should be focusing on more important, real matters than some make believe accusations the US and Israel have made against Iran. How about Uganda and killing Joseph Kony? Sounds like a A-OK thing to do to me
how is Iran refusing to let an inspector actually inspect a site (ala doing their JOB to ensure compliance) a make-believe accusation?
Iran allows IEAE inspectors to do their job,
Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, Israel has 100s
since we're shoveling sh*t allow me to copy pasta
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11709428
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) (not the US or any western nation) has said that medium-level uranium enrichment had begun at the Fordo plant near Qom in northern Iran.
Tehran has said it plans to carry out uranium enrichment there for purely peaceful purposes. The West argues Iran is building a nuclear weapons capacity.
In November 2011 the IAEA (again, NOT the US) released its latest report on Iran's nuclear programme, presenting new evidence suggesting that Iran is secretly working to obtain a nuclear weapon. Iran has dismissed the claims as fictitious.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/22/iran-nuclear-talks-failure-iaea
Iran nuclear talks a failure, says IAEA
UN nuclear inspectors say no progress was made, with access blocked to key site, while regime threatens pre-emptive strikes
The UN nuclear agency has declared its latest inspection visit to Iran a failure, with the regime blocking access to a key site suspected of hosting covert nuclear weapon research and no agreement reached on how to resolve other unanswered questions.
The statement from the International Atomic Energy Agency was issued shortly after an Iranian general warned of a pre-emptive strike against any nation that threatens Iran.
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Yeah and the Normans killed Saxons, let's get those Norman bastards.
Some of us know all about the coup of 1953, so what, this is now not then.
not enough it seems, and mo one has yet cone up with a legal or ,moral justification for committing treason by attacking Iran' including you
I, however, have shown legally and morally why such action cannot be taken
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Since coming to power in 1979, Iran has not invaded any country, the same cannot be said about Israel
Wait a minute now....didn't Bush Sr. run them back into their own country?
no he chased Iraq back to their own country, several, years before that the US paid Iraq to invade Iran
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[quote=the_great_ontex]If the UN has to get involved it should be focusing on more important, real matters than some make believe accusations the US and Israel have made against Iran. How about Uganda and killing Joseph Kony? Sounds like a A-OK thing to do to me
how is Iran refusing to let an inspector actually inspect a site (ala doing their JOB to ensure compliance) a make-believe accusation?
Iran allows IEAE inspectors to do their job,
Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, Israel has 100s
since we're shoveling sh*t allow me to copypasta [/quote]
And where did the IAEA get this information? In Iran
So your post supports the fact that Iran allows IAEA inspections and while there may be some disagreement on certain facilities ( especially sine the US was able to oust the previous IAEA head with soneone more in board with the US ), the fact remains that Iran allows inspections
Israel does nit .. Your lack of debate on the rest if my list shows that you have a very weak argument indeed which is not surprising since your argument lacks both the legal and moral highground
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As far as I am concerned we have been in a state of War with Iran since this  Those are the gates of our Embassy in Tehran, in case you forgot.
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Since coming to power in 1979, Iran has not invaded any country, the same cannot be said about Israel
Wait a minute now....didn't Bush Sr. run them back into their own country?
no he chased Iraq back to their own country, several, years before that the US paid Iraq to invade Iran
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As far as I am concerned we have been in a state of War with Iran since this
Something that happened over 30 years ago and was caused by the US backed coup in 1953
What is funny [ and hypocritical ] is that the grudge you are holding is longer than the time it took from coup to ouster
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we are "The Great Satan"... remember? first coined by Khomeini in his speech back in 1979.
sticking your head in the sand isnt gonna save you when they already count you as the enemy simply because of the life we live. I'm sure that the people of Iran for the most part ARENT the enemy. the Islamic Revolution happened and the power structure of the revolution is still very much in power and our enemy and believe it or not, thats NOT because of our relationship with Israel. They just happen to be on the sh*tlist with us.
trying to talk yourself out of that fact isnt going to change a damn thing.
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just to bring this up.
Haven't we heard the WMD argument before and to find their were none of consequence ?
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yeah when WE (the US) said we had secret intelligence with regards to chemical weapons in Iraq.
But this time its not us presenting evidence pointing to Iran going for weapons grade, its the IAEA.
Never forget that in Islam Al-taqiyya (diplomacy) allows for the outright lying on any stage including global. Once they have the bomb, what more can be done?
Brinksmanship is a dangerous game. its served North Korea well, Saddam, not so well.
But if it comes to blows its gonna be more than Iraq and Afghanistan put together I bet.
As far as "we're too broke to do that crap" aint gonna fly... we havent run the draft yet right? are we low on rifles? ships? Planes? yeah we can (and will) war if it came to it. budget be damned.
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we are "The Great Satan"... remember? first coined by Khomeini in his speech back in 1979.
You mean the speech after the Iranians overthrew the US puppet that was placed in their country after the US executed a coup in Iran overthrowing a democratically elected government
Do you not think living under the repressive heel of tyrant for 26 years might foster the opinion if the people that the power that placed the tyrant might be evil?
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just to bring this up.
Haven't we heard the WMD argument before and to find their were none of consequence ?
Yup, they are hoping the majority of Americans have forgotten this, and seeing the ignorance of history just on this board, their gamble is not that risky
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Why do Americans even care?
Why are we willing to kill our kids over sister religions on the other side of the world that forgot their common ancestry?
Why are we willing to add trillions to our debt when we already cry we are taxed too much and have not even paid off our last 2 wars?
Probably the military welfare... trying to get rid of the automatic cuts coming in a few years... I guess some people cannot live without welfare.
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Why?
Well because this  will be a lot worse than this 
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Why?
Well because this will be a lot worse than this
So fear is going to make us act irrationally? What is the realistic chance we will ever be hit by a nuclear weapon? Why don't we bomb North Korea? Those crazies scare me a lot more. Iran is a very proud Nation... they will stand and fight. It will tear up the whole region. Then we will put in yet another wacko government and rinse and repeat in another generation?
With technology and information spreading rapidly their government is already facing enough pressure. They are a theocracy living in the 21st century... their time is nearly over anyways.
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Sorry but North Korea is nothing compared to the tinder keg that Iran is.
Besides Iran has oil.
bwahahahahahahaha
We are in the midst of energy wars, like it or not.
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Sorry but North Korea is nothing compared to the tinder keg that Iran is.
Besides Iran has oil.
bwahahahahahahaha
We are in the midst of energy wars, like it or not.
So why dont we leave our kids something. Invest the trillions of war into creating a smart energy grid/future... instead of leaving them with crimes against humanity.
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Why?
Well because this
will never occur from Iran .. Hyper wants to deal with what-ifs because reality shoots his argument to shreds
Reality > What ifs
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will never occur from Iran .. Hyper wants to deal with what-ifs because reality shoots his argument to shreds
Reality > What ifs
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JD_HOGG posted:
I just told you all that I know
which is why that makes you response so sad and why I had to correct and educate you.
CORRECTION: Sentences should start with a capital.
CORRECTION: "your."
CORRECTION: punctuation needed.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
will never occur from Iran .. Hyper wants to deal with what-ifs because reality shoots his argument to shreds
Reality > What ifs
Are you high?
Are you delusional?
Iran does not have a bomb, nor does it have the capability if sendung a missile with one to the US
However the list I posted exist now, are you telling ne that some fanciful what if trumps the current reality in the ground?
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Why?
Well because this
will never occur from Iran .. Hyper wants to deal with what-ifs because reality shoots his argument to shreds
Reality > What ifs
Since we're on the subject of "what ifs" and you're a military man BT... whats the current strategy if Israel gets nuked by Iran... or even just straight out attacked conventionally? They do have ballistic 2 stage surface to surface missiles.
I mean back in 2008 Hillary went on file as saying she'd attack Iran if Iran attacked Israel. You think that's any different?
You say Reality but all you have are the same facts that are in front of us
in 2008 the IAEA confronted Iran about the discovered plans to reconfigure a Shahab-3 to house a nuclear device... project 111. Iran claimed the evidence was fabricated... but they sure as hell haven't fabricated a few things though
1. The Iranian President has made several public comments involving wiping Israel off the map
2. They are even as recently as mid February still refusing IAEA inspections
3. The Shahab-3 has a range of between 2000 and 2500 Kilometers which means it can easly strike anywhere in Israel
4. Iran's ballistic capabilities have been tremendously enhanced by the technical assistance of both China and Russia so I'm sure their targeting systems are a hellova lot better than any sorry-ass SCUD.
And those are just the reasons with the idea that they would start something with Israel... forget the idea that they could hand radioactive material to a pack of extremists like Hamas to load onto a rocket and shoot willy-nilly at their enemies and sit back laughing at the results.
Simply put, IMO Iran doesn't demonstrate a high enough regard for life to warrant allowing them such a thing. They aren't ready yet.
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Somehow I thought hyper would be the last person to be a war monger.  I've been wrong many times.
If Obamas actions are the same as Bush, it's okay because it's Obama, our savior.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
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Brother_Tempus posted:
will never occur from Iran .. Hyper wants to deal with what-ifs because reality shoots his argument to shreds
Reality > What ifs
Are you high?
Are you delusional?
Iran does not have a bomb, nor does it have the capability if sendung a missile with one to the US
However the list I posted exist now, are you telling ne that some fanciful what if trumps the current reality in the ground?
Yep, they need a missle, that's the only way to eff with the US. ICBMs.
You guys can stop worrying Scientist B_T has stated FACTS with excellent sources. (His ass is even better at economics, foreign policy and climatology than His Holiness DOCTOR Ron Paul.)
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No, I think we should only intervene in an international coalition type response and Israel should be in charge of getting that moving with Russia and China.
The only exception would be if they bomb Israel, then I think we will be forced to.
I expect that Israel will try to provoke them into doing so by using more covert tactics like killing the scientists, and then will get attacked and claim it was unprovoked.
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Yes to military. Stand off in the Arabian Sea and let Nuclear loaded Tomahawks fly and let them understand what a nuclear war is.
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Israel certainly has the capability of dealing with it on their own.
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between Iran and Israel I have this picture of some poor bastard in Iraq on the day the missiles fly yelling, "I'm no even supposed to be here today".
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Somehow I thought hyper would be the last person to be a war monger. I've been wrong many times.
If Obamas actions are the same as Bush, it's okay because it's Obama, our savior.
I have been hawkish all along. my complaint with Bush was how it was played.
I thought a small tactical nuke over his Al Queda hangout would clearly define our deterrent capability.
Diplomacy has yet to stop anyone from acquiring nukes.
The ones I feel sorry for are the Iranians that actually fought for a progressive Democracy only to be bled to death for their plasma by the Iranian power elite when they fought their war with Iraq.
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No. We have spent way too much on two wars already.
Time to come home, cut the military budget a bit and start worrying about our own crappy infrastructure.
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Once they have the bomb, what more can be done?
Unless Russia or China stepped in, they'd be flattened before they could use it.
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Israel certainly has the capability of dealing with it on their own.
This. Israel could completely destroy the entirety of Iran with their military power if they really wanted to.
Taking out only Iran's military, power grid, and communications would be easy for them.
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Let's be clear about this.
If the US goes to war with Iran, we will LOSE.
Not lose like we did in Iraq (though, of course we did lose there)
Not lose like we are doing in Afghanistan (though, of course we are losing and always will there)
Not lose like we did in Vietnam (totally lost there)
But lose as in, they kick are asses. Kill thousands of our soldiers and sailors, and thousands of attacks take place back here in the states with 10's of thousands of causalities. I simply can't understand how the previous 10 years has made no impact on the thinking of people in this country. How can you still be so god damn ignorant of reality?
Just because we have the shiniest and coolest weapons, doesn't mean we will always win (See Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam for reference). Up till now of course, the only people who pay for our starting stupid wars then losing them...are people in the military. So what?...right? They signed up for it! Their problem.....hear it all the time.
Well listen up folks, we attack Iran and we are all going to pay. Your parents, your kids, you. You might die, not some poor 20 year old from podunkville or the inner city who signed up for an education or job training. You and your family. Dead. Hundreds or thousands of bombings, suicide and non, all over the god damn country. Do you even have a clue how many Iranians live in the USA at this time? How many Pakistani, Syrian, Lebanese?
And who could blame them for attacking us, after we, for no god damned reason, attacked and murdered their families. "Fortress America" would get punked. Then there is the fact that Iran has very sophisticated and modern anti-air weapons, and they have a ton of tiny ships that would be blowing the hell out of our fleet in conjunction with their recently purchased from Russia anti-ship missiles. This isn't a "push over" (even if you are stupid enough to believe that Iraq was).
We are talking hundreds of thousands of US military causalities to take over the country, then 30 years of occupation to control it, plus 10's of thousands of casualties among civilians in the USA, total destruction of our economy, chaos and death everywhere.
This isn't us attacking some unprepared and backward assed hell hole. Iran is a big, rich, powerful country full of people that love it (hate their government, but love their country). Go look at some pictures of the country. It isn't camels and huts, it's modern cities, women in blue jeans, guys on cell phones, people riding bikes in parks, lots of cars, coffee shops, cafes, families out for a walk, it's a beautiful country with a dying and soon to be ousted idiotic leadership.
If we give them time, they will get rid of those idiots, and they will want nothing more than to be more like the west, and we could sell them the stuff to get there. But you guys want to blow them up because....um.....er.....someone somewhere said something something something nukes something.......
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Yes, it's just the reality of nuclear weapons, it's best that unstable nations do not have them. While it'd be better if no one had them, that's not feasible.
considering we r the only country that was crazy enough to use them against another country i'd say we have no right to tell anyone that they are too crazy to have them
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Let's be clear about this.
If the US goes to war with Iran, we will LOSE.
Not lose like we did in Iraq (though, of course we did lose there)
Not lose like we are doing in Afghanistan (though, of course we are losing and always will there)
Not lose like we did in Vietnam (totally lost there)
But lose as in, they kick are asses. Kill thousands of our soldiers and sailors, and thousands of attacks take place back here in the states with 10's of thousands of causalities. I simply can't understand how the previous 10 years has made no impact on the thinking of people in this country. How can you still be so god damn ignorant of reality?
Just because we have the shiniest and coolest weapons, doesn't mean we will always win (See Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam for reference). Up till now of course, the only people who pay for our starting stupid wars then losing them...are people in the military. So what?...right? They signed up for it! Their problem.....hear it all the time.
Well listen up folks, we attack Iran and we are all going to pay. Your parents, your kids, you. You might die, not some poor 20 year old from podunkville or the inner city who signed up for an education or job training. You and your family. Dead. Hundreds or thousands of bombings, suicide and non, all over the god damn country. Do you even have a clue how many Iranians live in the USA at this time? How many Pakistani, Syrian, Lebanese?
And who could blame them for attacking us, after we, for no god damned reason, attacked and murdered their families. "Fortress America" would get punked. Then there is the fact that Iran has very sophisticated and modern anti-air weapons, and they have a ton of tiny ships that would be blowing the hell out of our fleet in conjunction with their recently purchased from Russia anti-ship missiles. This isn't a "push over" (even if you are stupid enough to believe that Iraq was).
We are talking hundreds of thousands of US military causalities to take over the country, then 30 years of occupation to control it, plus 10's of thousands of casualties among civilians in the USA, total destruction of our economy, chaos and death everywhere.
This isn't us attacking some unprepared and backward assed hell hole. Iran is a big, rich, powerful country full of people that love it (hate their government, but love their country). Go look at some pictures of the country. It isn't camels and huts, it's modern cities, women in blue jeans, guys on cell phones, people riding bikes in parks, lots of cars, coffee shops, cafes, families out for a walk, it's a beautiful country with a dying and soon to be ousted idiotic leadership.
If we give them time, they will get rid of those idiots, and they will want nothing more than to be more like the west, and we could sell them the stuff to get there. But you guys want to blow them up because....um.....er.....someone somewhere said something something something nukes something.......
ROTFL you're both a coward and a fool. we would FLATTEN Iran.
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Typical response from a wingnut.
I'm a "coward" (even though I served for decades in the military and retired from it honorably) and we would "flatten" them (even though you have no idea of their abilities except they aren't us so they must suck).
Losing the last 3 wars didn't impact your overestimation of our ability at all did it?
Of course we COULD blow the hell out of the country...at first.
Take over most of the bigger cities and set up "green zones" for some sense of safety...at first.
Declare "Mission accomplished" and strut around high fiving each other...at first.
But that will never happen. We aren't going to "blow the hell out of them". Because we would need to use nukes to do so. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, this is a rich country with sophisticated weapons and anti-air capability. We aren't just going to stroll in and take over. It would require a total commitment and using all our capabilities to take them out. That is never going to happen. No way in hell are we going to nuke someone who isn't attacking us.
Even if we somehow managed to "take over" there are 75 million people there. It would require MILLIONS of soldiers on the ground to contain the country, and those soldiers would have to remain their for a generation and they would be fighting the entire time.
Then of course, back here at home the constant attacks on civilians are going on, trillions of dollars and thousands of lives lost...for what?
Ignore everything I state if you want, but answer that Mr.You are a coward tosser. What the hell do we get out out of it.
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Turn the country into a giant Shell station.
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our problems have never been about taking ground, the problems have all been about holding it.
when the nuke site is a radioactive smoking hole in the ground there will be ZERO reason to hold Iran.
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Motar98 posted:
this poll makes me sad
No kidding.
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Aerlinthian posted:
Motar98 posted:
this poll makes me sad
No kidding.
Says the guy who was salivating to invade Iraq because of WMD's and getting our head unburied and protect ourselves.
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I think we should invade Minnesota and war on everyone there who doesn't have a mini van.
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I think we should invade Minnesota and war on everyone there who doesn't have a mini van.
Probably harder to invade here than Iran, we are better armed.
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poll on cnn
what say ye acf?
should military force be an option?
No. I don't care if they have a Nuclear Weapon.
Why can the US, France, Britain, Russia, China, Israel, etc have nukes but Iran not have them?
However, many American's are too stupid to understand hypocrisy.
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Why can the US, France, Britain, Russia, China, Israel, etc have nukes but Iran not have them?
However, many American's are too stupid to understand hypocrisy.
None of those countries are run by crazies (relatively) and none of them are willing to sell nukes to crazies.
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-Mithan- posted:
-Foxy- posted:
poll on cnn
what say ye acf?
should military force be an option?
No. I don't care if they have a Nuclear Weapon.
Why can the US, France, Britain, Russia, China, Israel, etc have nukes but Iran not have them?
However, many American's are too stupid to understand hypocrisy.
so one kid at the high school has a pistol you're for handing out guns to the kids in the retard class huh?
the non proliferation treaty Iran signed is setup to ensure the safety of the global community as a whole and was setup by the United Nations.
The good news is it doesnt matter a single turd what you or I think, the UN can hash this out.
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