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People that don't believe in God think they know it all. For them to believe in God would suggest that there is a superior being other than them selves. How narcissistic is that. 
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IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Thats not true. I don't believe in god and I've stated several times I don't know it all. It's impossible to know one way or the other 100%.
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IMHO is just butthurt some of us have our lives together without needing to ask for help from an imaginary entity.
I see a lot of people like IMHO who went /are going in a downward spiral and it really does them good to be consoled by something that isn't true. I know some church groups can help people overcome their challenges but just because something is consoling it doesn't make it true.
Also, sweet god logic bro
     
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IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Anybody with half a brain, regardless of faith, knows that NO human knows it all. Most probably know 5% or less of all human knowledge.
[Edit:]And humans are rather uninformed, from a universal perspective. FAR more information out there than we know or have means to learn as yet.
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some people just like to think they are cool and original by being all "religion sucks lol"
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Tych2 posted:
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People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Thats not true. I don't believe in god and I've stated several times I don't know it all. It's impossible to know one way or the other 100%.
Good point.
I meant to say people that do not think God exists...
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smellymotor posted:
some people just like to think they are cool and original by being all "religion sucks lol"
Cool and original? No, just grounded in reality.
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smellymotor posted:
some people just like to think they are cool and original by being all "religion sucks lol"
I don't think there is anything cool or original about the idea but yeah, religion sucks...
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i meant that some people are just following along wanting to be part of the cool crowd. i'm so enlightened i read a book once and lol'd along with a comedian.
basically sheeple who cant think for themselves
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i meant that some people are just following along wanting to be part of the cool crowd. i'm so enlightened i read a book once and lol'd along with a comedian.
basically sheeple who cant think for themselves
There are a lot of dumb people. we are fighting over the same masses...
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No one thinks they know it all. If you feel threatened when talking to atheists that's on you not them.
Also, I would consider thinking the being that created the universe cares about anything you do to be pretty narcissistic.
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Allstarslacker posted:
Also, I would consider thinking the being that created the universe cares about anything you do to be pretty narcissistic.
One could almost call it egocentric...
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Sezyrrith posted:
IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Anybody with half a brain, regardless of faith, knows that NO human knows it all. Most probably know 5% or less of all human knowledge.
[Edit:]And humans are rather uninformed, from a universal perspective. FAR more information out there than we know or have means to learn as yet.
except for those annoying religious folk who think they have all the answers
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Sezyrrith posted:
IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Anybody with half a brain, regardless of faith, knows that NO human knows it all. Most probably know 5% or less of all human knowledge.
[Edit:]And humans are rather uninformed, from a universal perspective. FAR more information out there than we know or have means to learn as yet.
except for those annoying religious folk who think they have all the answers
because god told them so
Which brings us right back to this little nugget of idiocy
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People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
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reesescups posted:
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People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
They do dismiss the creation theory completely. The central tenant of atheism is that there is no creator or group of creators. That is really something big to claim to know. There are endless ways to imagine the original formation of life, but there needs to be a side to join against the most popular (and crazy) creation theories of god I guess, and that's atheism.
I love the athiest vs thiest debates here and elsewhere. It is always a bunch of blowhards making the same old arguments that amount to either yes!! or no!! and in the end, nobody's right and everyone looks dumb
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They do dismiss the creation theory completely.
If you don't believe in God, why would you believe a God or Gods created the earth?
Besides, most Christians (hell, ANY non-atheist religious group) dismiss evolution completely, and that's actually got physical evidence all over the place.
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There is an event horizon to our knowledge. It's something that you all seem to agree with me on. No one knows it all. You douche canoes already agreed with me on that, so don't try to back track. Without knowing it all there is no way to put all the pieces together. We will never see the complete full picture. So to say you know there is no God is the ultimate self delusion.
I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does.
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Sezyrrith posted:
Sea_of_inK posted:
They do dismiss the creation theory completely.
If you don't believe in God, why would you believe a God or Gods created the earth?
Besides, most Christians (hell, ANY non-atheist religious group) dismiss evolution completely, and that's actually got physical evidence all over the place.
This.
It just goes to show the power of indoctrination and what organized religion is really all about. Control.
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We get it IMHO.
You need Gawd to get through your day.
It's OK.
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This thread is 12 hours old and manegarm hasn't shown up? Is his radar broken or something?
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IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all. For them to believe in God would suggest that there is a superior being other than them selves. How narcissistic is that.
Looks like their t-shirts had the desired effect on you.
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We get it IMHO.
You need Gawd to get through your day.
It's OK.
I'm just trying to save souls my friend
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Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
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With or without the divinity, Jesus was a pretty rockin dude whose wisdom should be read and pondered. The world would be a better place.
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With or without the divinity, Jesus was a pretty rockin dude whose wisdom should be read and pondered. The world would be a better place.
All Christian bibles should be replaced with the 'Jefferson Bible' - that would be a good first step!
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hhmm interesting, I haven't read that. The main principles of Jesus are incredibly parallel to the teachings of the Torah.
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DO IT - and don't get distracted, just do it!!!
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mmm speaking of worship..
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B_Shinkicker posted:
Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
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IMHO posted:
People that don't believe in God think they know it all. For them to believe in God would suggest that there is a superior being other than them selves. How narcissistic is that.
fail since being an atheist means you've accepted that you don't know it all, that there is a wast ocean of knowledge out there that explains our reality better then the simplicity of "a wizard did it" which you seem to adhere to.
If anything being religious and believing that god created all the marvel around us is extremely arrogant, further more so since in the creation saga we're the pinnacle of creation.
There is no way of knowing that god does not exist, there is also no way to completely exclude pink flying unicorns.. The burden of proof is on the theists who claim that there is a spaghettimonster up there, not us.
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Koneg posted:
B_Shinkicker posted:
Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
Really?
I don't know what movie you're talking about, but it isn't difficult to argue that religions have a long history of repackaging, reinterpreting and representing the religions that came before and also those that competed for followers. There is very very little in Christianity that is unique to Christianity. That is likely part of why it worked as well as it did once they opened the doors to non-Jews. Adding in the rituals and iconography of new converts is a great way to make them feel empowered and at home.
Also, Moe you're kidding about the Torah comment, right?
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When I read these threads I can never been sure if IMHO is trolling or if he is honestly intimidated by the fact that not everyone believes the way he does.
Maybe it's both?
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Also, Moe you're kidding about the Torah comment, right?
Nope. The gist of both is, do unto your neighbors as you would have them do to you. Be happy with your own lot in life, help others, forgiveness, charity, etc.
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intimidated?
How do you get that?
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Moe_Nox posted:
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Also, Moe you're kidding about the Torah comment, right?
Nope. The gist of both is, do unto your neighbors as you would have them do to you. Be happy with your own lot in life, help others, forgiveness, charity, etc.
Well right, Jesus was a rabbi who studied under rabbis and he was attempting to reform Judaism. He had some radical ideas, but for the most part preached a pretty strictly observed life. The radical parts were mostly based on his belief that the end of days was about to happen. In most ways he was probably even more Jewish than those who opposed him. They killed him for that you know.
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Just by the fact that you seem to be in a state of semi-permamelt when it comes to atheists. What is this, two threads inside of a week basically flaming atheists?
You seem mad. Are u mad?
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intimidated?
How do you get that?
You're going to answer my arguments or just chicken out like you Christians usually do?  
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What is this, two threads inside of a week basically flaming atheists?
Unpossible
IMHO himself has said that there are never threads flaming Atheists, just threads that Atheists create to flame religious folks...
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I'm just chumming the water.
Look towards Tinkles and Mammy if you want intimation. They bite at the mere mention of God. Then they start twisting and turning on the thought of religion even when I have only mentioned God.
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People that don't believe in God think they know it all.
Yeah, this level of irony is usually reserved for Fisted, but I just let it go by until now.
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You're going to answer my arguments or just chicken out like you Christians usually do?
There is an event horizon to our knowledge. It's something that you all seem to agree with me on. No one knows it all. You douche canoes already agreed with me on that, so don't try to back track. Without knowing it all there is no way to put all the pieces together. There will be no way to see the complete full picture. So to say you know there is no God is the ultimate in arrogance.
I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does.
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I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does.
See - you look at the 'miracle' of our universe and jump to OMG God...
Others look at the universe, piece together facts, observations, evidence and build a hypothesis...
I could go on, but I think you see the difference in the picture that' emerging just from that little bit.
If not - so be it...
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I don't have all the answers, therefore God.
We know.
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I have all the answers, therefore no God.
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Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
Really?
I don't know what movie you're talking about
Shin mentioned it in another thread:
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After watching Zeitgeist, the dates of Christmas and Easter, and the story of the birth of Jesus and the death and resurrection make even more sense to me.
Then he dropped his Horus reference here, which means Shinkicker is an idiot and believes the movie has merit.
Basically, Zeitgeist falls into the category of "Not Even Wrong". To be wrong, you must first get something, anything, right, and the conclusions drawn must have some basis in reality - and Zeitgeist fails this most basic of litmus tests.
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Pretty sure the movie Zeitgeist isn't the only media that covers the evolution and intertwining of Earthly religious practices...
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Pretty sure the movie Zeitgeist isn't the only media that covers the evolution and intertwining of Earthly religious practices...
Of course it isn't. It is however quite possibly the worst... since it doesn't have any basis in reality. Most of the conclusions and associations in the film are made up out of whole cloth.
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You're going to answer my arguments or just chicken out like you Christians usually do?
There is an event horizon to our knowledge. It's something that you all seem to agree with me on. No one knows it all. You douche canoes already agreed with me on that, so don't try to back track. Without knowing it all there is no way to put all the pieces together. We will never see the complete full picture. So to say you know there is no God is the ultimate self delusion.
I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does.
Then again we did not know how tides worked 200 years ago, now we do.. Human knowledge and understanding is always evolving to just say that "we will never know" is just as idiotic as saying "we know" no matter where you are on the fence.
I don't know if god exists or not, but in all probability he does not in the same way as we're about 99% sure that Unicorns does not exist. You replace the uncertainty and improbability with your faith which basically means that you turn your brain off and just wish for something to be true without there being any real proof of it, just a lot of magic and tradition and that it's accepted by society.
That you chose the Juedo-Christian god with such surety just makes it even more improbable since there are thousands of potential candidates out there, and what if god happens to be something totally different from what every religion on earth believes him or her or it to be which makes any faith faith scripture, dogma and it's tennets even more useless since the deck is stacked against you either way.
IMHO if you're happy with your faith and it helps you to keep away from booze and enriches your life then just go for it.. a pipe dream is preferable to alcoholism and misery in your case.. I don't don't need it and trying to believe would conflict with every fiber of my being when it comes to reason and logic I just don't see it, and uncertainty does not scare me neither does nothingness, same as I'm not looking back to the time when I did not exist with horror.
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Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
Really?
Only someone incredibly obtuse would come to this kind of conclus....oh, hi Koneg.
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[quote=B_Shinkicker]Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
Really?
I don't know what movie you're talking about
Shin mentioned it in another thread:
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After watching Zeitgeist, the dates of Christmas and Easter, and the story of the birth of Jesus and the death and resurrection make even more sense to me.
Then he dropped his Horus reference here, which means Shinkicker is an idiot and believes the movie has merit.
Basically, Zeitgeist falls into the category of "Not Even Wrong". To be wrong, you must first get something, anything, right, and the conclusions drawn must have some basis in reality - and Zeitgeist fails this most basic of litmus tests.[/quote]
The first part about Horus was pretty cool, wasn't that the one that totally flipped out about evil space lizards?
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I don't know if god exists or not,
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Please stop poking holes in my most cherished beliefs!
Uh, this is a thread about religion so I'm going to have to say.... No.
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same as I'm not looking back to the time when I did not exist with horror.
Yeah, I gotta disagree with you there...
The world before me just sucked - then I came here and made everything awesome just by it being associated with me. The world before me was a horrible place...
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I don't know if god exists or not,
Then you are not an Atheist.
I am, don't tell me what I believe it's like me telling you that you're really a catholic or a mormon.
No atheist is 100% sure that god does not exist surety is a sign of a closed mind. I'm sure that god does not exist in the same way as I'm sure there are no unicorn now if you would present me with a real unicorn I'd have to change my stance.. Same if you had any actual proof about god.
You do not have any proof god exists, therefor return when you do and I'll change my mind.
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same as I'm not looking back to the time when I did not exist with horror.
Yeah, I gotta disagree with you there...
The world before me just sucked - then I came here and made everything awesome just by it being associated with me. The world before me was a horrible place...
meh...
It wasn't so bad.
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same as I'm not looking back to the time when I did not exist with horror.
Yeah, I gotta disagree with you there...
The world before me just sucked - then I came here and made everything awesome just by it being associated with me. The world before me was a horrible place...
We should have you burned at the stake for the horror of your damn wardrobe you smelly dopefiend!
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reesescups posted:
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same as I'm not looking back to the time when I did not exist with horror.
Yeah, I gotta disagree with you there...
The world before me just sucked - then I came here and made everything awesome just by it being associated with me. The world before me was a horrible place...
We should have you burned at the stake for the horror of your damn wardrobe you smelly dopefiend!
OH yeah...
Well
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I don't know if god exists or not,
Then you are not an Atheist.
I am, don't tell me what I believe it's like me telling you that you're really a catholic or a mormon.
No atheist is 100% sure that god does not exist surety is a sign of a closed mind. I'm sure that god does not exist in the same way as I'm sure there are no unicorn now if you would present me with a real unicorn I'd have to change my stance.. Same if you had any actual proof about god.
You do not have any proof god exists, therefor return when you do and I'll change my mind.
You can call your self anything you want.
BUT
By definition an Atheist DENIES THAT THERE IS A DEITY.
An Agnostic by definition says they don't know whether or not there is a Deity.
My logical brain has to go by definition or else I may as well be arguing with The Fisted Puma.
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50% atheist, 50% agnostic, 100% Eurometro
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By definition an Atheist DENIES THAT THERE IS A DEITY.
By definition what does the 'a' mean in front of 'theist'?
We all know a 'theist' is a person with a belief in a God (any God will do). The 'a' means literally 'without'.
An Atheist is a person without a belief in a God (any God will do). It doesn't mean that an atheist does or doesn't believe in a God - it means that person is without a belief on the subject.
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[quote=Manegarm]I don't know if god exists or not,
Then you are not an Atheist.
I am, don't tell me what I believe it's like me telling you that you're really a catholic or a mormon.
No atheist is 100% sure that god does not exist surety is a sign of a closed mind. I'm sure that god does not exist in the same way as I'm sure there are no unicorn now if you would present me with a real unicorn I'd have to change my stance.. Same if you had any actual proof about god.
You do not have any proof god exists, therefor return when you do and I'll change my mind.
You can call your self anything you want.
BUT
By definition an Atheist DENIES THAT THERE IS A DEITY.
An Agnostic by definition says they don't know whether or not there is a Deity.
My logical brain has to go by definition or else I may as well be arguing with The Fisted Puma.[/quote]
I don't believe in a god, and I deny there there is a god I'm right now 100% sure that there isn't a god.. However present me with real evidence and I would have to change my mind.
Being Puma would be to have inarguable evidence thrown in your face from every facet of society, scientific and religious and still saying "nope!"
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I don't believe in a god, and I deny there there is a god I'm right now 100% sure that there isn't a god.. However present me with real evidence and I would have to change my mind.
Being Puma would be to have inarguable evidence thrown in your face from every facet of society, scientific and religious and still saying "nope!"
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omg
For realz
That was the worst double post eva!!!
YOU SUCK AT POSTING MANAGRAM
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I'm just chumming the water.
Look towards Tinkles and Mammy if you want intimation. They bite at the mere mention of God. Then they start twisting and turning on the thought of religion even when I have only mentioned God.
"I'm trolling" would have been much easier to type.
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I srsly have no idea what the hell wen't wrong there I was trying to delete some buildup and then my computer started making this sound like it had something scraping against one of the fans so I had to duck down and unscrew the side of the chassi and check the insides I moved some wires around and then popped the chassie side on again got up and just posted.
so yes fail.
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Well
I hope your eyes burn!!!
Burn baby BURN!!!
FOR THE LOVE OF....
where the hell do you FIND those shirts!??!
I never thought I'd say this, but it'd be better if you posted bare chested pics...
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God screwed up your quote abilities as punishment.
I'm 100% sure that wasn't the case but present me with some real hard evidence of it and I'll change my mind.
/facestab!
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Well
I hope your eyes burn!!!
Burn baby BURN!!!
FOR THE LOVE OF....
where the hell do you FIND those shirts!??!
I never thought I'd say this, but it'd be better if you posted bare chested pics...
(no that's not an invite)
That one wasn't so bad, but only college kids and idiots wear t-shirts under their button downs. A wife beater I can accept.
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Shirt is so awesome it melted your computers over the internets!!!
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Shirt is so awesome it melted your computers over the internets!!!
/flex
This is your brain on drugs everyone... Reese is like a walking anti-drug commercial.
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[quote=Koneg][quote=B_Shinkicker]Just so long as you understand that when you worship Jesus, you're really just worshiping Horus, then by all means, enjoy your repackaged Sun Worship.
Apparently you're under the misguided belief that the movie Zeitgeist is factually or even historically correct??
Really?
I don't know what movie you're talking about
Shin mentioned it in another thread:
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After watching Zeitgeist, the dates of Christmas and Easter, and the story of the birth of Jesus and the death and resurrection make even more sense to me.
Then he dropped his Horus reference here, which means Shinkicker is an idiot and believes the movie has merit.
Basically, Zeitgeist falls into the category of "Not Even Wrong". To be wrong, you must first get something, anything, right, and the conclusions drawn must have some basis in reality - and Zeitgeist fails this most basic of litmus tests.[/quote]
The first part about Horus was pretty cool, wasn't that the one that totally flipped out about evil space lizards? [/quote]
No, Zeitgeist is about how religion, media, and the government controls and manipulates civilization. No space lizards. On the religious side it does a great job showing the evolution of Christianity and it's similarities to previous religions, sometimes directly mirroring them, as well as it's similarity to the zodiac.
The fact that Koneg has a fleeting grip on reality and is railing against this film indicates that you should probably check it out. Zeitgeist goes into detail about the story of the three wise men following a star to the birth of Jesus to the three stars in Orion's belt lining up with that same star pointing to the rising of the sun on December 25th, important Christian dates lining up with solstices, the shift from paganism to Christianity, etc. Good stuff.
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Yeah I don't really care about that stuff. 
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IMHO posted:
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I have all the answers, therefore no God.
I know.
I'm not an Atheist. /hth
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Touché sir..
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On the religious side it does a great job showing the evolution of Christianity and it's similarities to previous religions, sometimes directly mirroring them, as well as it's similarity to the zodiac.
So not getting anything right is your definition of a great job?
B_Shinkicker posted:
The fact that Koneg has a fleeting grip on reality and is railing against this film indicates that you should probably check it out.
Oh definitely, no argument... if for no other reason than to have a good laugh.
B_Shinkicker posted:
Zeitgeist goes into detail about the story of the three wise men
Which were never numbered as (3) wise men/kings in original biblical text...
B_Shinkicker posted:
following a star to the birth of Jesus to the three stars in Orion's belt lining up with that same star pointing to the rising of the sun on December 25th, important Christian dates lining up with solstices, the shift from paganism to Christianity, etc. Good stuff.
A) Jesus was born in the spring... the December 25th date was chosen more than 300 years later by the Roman Catholic church.
Oh and the really good stuff, like the fact that the alignment Zeitgeist talks about between Orion's Belt, Sirius, and the Sun is impossible anywhere on the entire frikken planet? Because they're not all in the sky anywhere near sunrise or sunset? That kind of Good Stuff? 
Zeitgeist gets nothing right.
So, like I said... Not Even Wrong.
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Oh and the really good stuff, like the fact that the alignment Zeitgeist talks about between Orion's Belt, Sirius, and the Sun is impossible anywhere on the entire frikken planet? Because they're not all in the sky anywhere near sunrise or sunset? That kind of Good Stuff?
Interesting...
So the claim (approximately 20 minutes into the video about this alignment is) - in your words is unpossible...
Why do you claim it's unpossible? Why do you say it's unpossible anywhere on the planet?
Sirius - the star of the east is always visible above the horizon after sunset during the winter solstice.
Orion's belt - 'The three kings' - always aligns with Sirius...
What you are saying is unpossible - in fact happens every freaking year...
Why are you saying it's unpossible?
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Why do you claim it's unpossible? Why do you say it's unpossible anywhere on the planet?
Uh, because it is?
reesescups posted:
Sirius - the star of the east is always visible above the horizon after sunset during the winter solstice.
Orion's belt - 'The three kings' - always aligns with Sirius...
Nothing wrong here so far...
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What you are saying is unpossible - in fact happens every freaking year...
No, it doesn't.
Perhaps you'd like to re-read what I wrote?
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Perhaps you'd like to re-read what I wrote?
Why? Would it magically change into something that is accurate?
Here's a sky map - knock yourself out dip shit...
http://www.astroviewer.com/interactive-night-sky-map.php
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Koneg posted:
Perhaps you'd like to re-read what I wrote?
Why? Would it magically change into something that is accurate?
Here's a sky map - knock yourself out dip shit...
http://www.astroviewer.com/interactive-night-sky-map.php
Wow - very cool tool!
Too bad you couldn't quite figure out how to use it.
Here's a hint: Set your location to, oh, Egypt. (Or anywhere actually)
Set your time to ballpark winter sunrise, oh, say, December 24th, year 1, 6am. (It'd actually be closer to 7am in Egypt at the dead of winter but just go with it)
Now try to find Sirius. Or Orion.
Hint #2, they won't be there.
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Religious people just make me laugh. They still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and think that anyone who doesn't is not going to get any presents.
It's freakin' hilarious!
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Koneg posted:
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Perhaps you'd like to re-read what I wrote?
Why? Would it magically change into something that is accurate?
Here's a sky map - knock yourself out dip shit...
http://www.astroviewer.com/interactive-night-sky-map.php
Wow - very cool tool!
Too bad you couldn't quite figure out how to use it.
Here's a hint: Set your location to, oh, Egypt. (Or anywhere actually)
Set your time to ballpark winter sunrise, oh, say, December 24th, year 1, 6am. (It'd actually be closer to 7am in Egypt at the dead of winter but just go with it)
Now try to find Sirius. Or Orion.
Hint #2, they won't be there.
Better yet - why not set it to ohhhh jerusalem and instead of 7am... Lets go for something more akin to when people would be traveling using the stars - like Oh I dunner after SUNSET....
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f'k this thread really went off the deep end.
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Better yet - why not set it to ohhhh jerusalem and instead of 7am... Lets go for something more akin to when people would be traveling using the stars - like Oh I dunner after SUNSET....
Because that's not the claim Zeitgeist made? 
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Just a reminder, Koneg: You're insane.
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Better yet - why not set it to ohhhh jerusalem and instead of 7am... Lets go for something more akin to when people would be traveling using the stars - like Oh I dunner after SUNSET....
Because that's not the claim Zeitgeist made?
It doesn't really matter - you said such an alignment was unpossible. If you used the tools provided not only would you realize you are a efftard and that 'The three kings' and sirius are always aligned (the very definition of the complete opposite of what you claimed) - you'd realize oh right - that you are a fuck tard...
Zeitgeist posted:
"The star in the East is Sirius, the brightest star in the night sky which, on December 24th aligns with the three brightest stars in Orion's Belt. These three stars in Orion's Belt are called today what they were called in ancient times: 'The Three Kings'".
...
"And the Three Kings, and the brightest star Sirius, all point to the place of the sunrise on December 25th. This is why The Three Kings follow the Star in the East - in order to locate the sunrise - the birth of the sun."
Sunrise on Dec 25th... Meaning traveling during the evening of the 24th (what I said) to arrive at sunrise on the morning of the 25th...
Just stfu and go sit in the corner metal face...
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