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Water just broke - heading to the hospital!
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YAY! good luck, drive safe!
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i am very glad you decided to post on ACF to let us know.
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ValeriaII posted: i am very glad you decided to post on ACF to let us know.
not like she has a lot else to do in the next several hours.
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Here's hoping for a fast, safe delivery!
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Awesome! I wish you safe travels and an easy delivery, Mal. Silver
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Who had march 6th in the pool?
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Yay! Good luck! With my first one I thought my water had broken during the night- turns out the baby had just kicked my bladder or something. I was soooooo embarrassed.
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Gaevren posted: Yay! Good luck! With my first one I thought my water had broken during the night- turns out the baby had just kicked my bladder or something. I was soooooo embarrassed.
legs wide open to the world during labor, but pissing yourself embarrassed you? Old age is going to be horrible for you!
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The things that embarrass you when you're not in labor go right out the window when you are! Besides it was my first one- I was young and much more easily embarrassed
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Caledric posted: Who had march 6th in the pool?
Me, what do I win? Edit: Congrats/good luck
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Silly Question: Do you clean up "The Mess" when your Water Breaks; or just deal with it after you've popped the baby out?
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winga posted:
Caledric posted: Who had march 6th in the pool?
Me, what do I win? Edit: Congrats/good luck
You get to get her preggers with #2. Congrats!
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Webscar posted: Silly Question: Do you clean up "The Mess" when your Water Breaks; or just deal with it after you've popped the baby out?
Someone else gets to deal with it. You don't waste time cleaning anything up when you should be heading to the hospital PRONTO, and anyone who leaves that sitting for two or more days while you're in the hospital recovering is a douche canoe and a moron. Besides which, it's not usually this flood like it happens in the movies. It's usually more just like...a trickle, or maybe wetting yourself. Most of the time there isn't anything to clean up except on your clothes (and see previous statement about me not cleaning it up!)
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Good luck!
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Gaevren posted:
Webscar posted: Silly Question: Do you clean up "The Mess" when your Water Breaks; or just deal with it after you've popped the baby out?
Someone else gets to deal with it. You don't waste time cleaning anything up when you should be heading to the hospital PRONTO, and anyone who leaves that sitting for two or more days while you're in the hospital recovering is a douche canoe and a moron. Besides which, it's not usually this flood like it happens in the movies. It's usually more just like...a trickle, or maybe wetting yourself. Most of the time there isn't anything to clean up except on your clothes (and see previous statement about me not cleaning it up!)
Yeah with me I felt something wet, and went to the bathroom. Realized it wasn't pee. Shoved small towel in pants, drove to hospital. No mess at home at all! Hospital got to deal with everything else.
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Grats and good luck Mal!!!
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Caledric posted: Who had march 6th in the pool?
I think I did! Good luck Mal!!!!!
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Damn, hope it's a quick and easy delivery for you and the kid.
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We are in our room. I'm hooked up to pitocin because my contractions weren't regular. They started with a slow drip and will increase. I'm currently at 3-4 minutes between so moving quickly. As far as the water breaking, it didn't make a mess and I was prepared for it.
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Good luck! Hope it goes smoothly and quickly!
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rip vagina :'(
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-Darkfire- posted: rip vagina :'(
I laughed.
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-Darkfire- posted: rip vagina :'(
It's a muscle, it'll go back.
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I am expecting a live stream from your iphone.
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Malrothien posted: We are in our room. I'm hooked up to pitocin because my contractions weren't regular. They started with a slow drip and will increase. I'm currently at 3-4 minutes between so moving quickly.
As far as the water breaking, it didn't make a mess and I was prepared for it.
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WhipSmack posted: I am expecting a live stream from your iphone.
I'm not. I've seen it many times.
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why would you want drugs? that takes away the full experience from child birth. au naturale it. also the caps makes it sound super serious thx for that added effect.
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-Darkfire- posted: why would you want drugs? that takes away the full experience from child birth. au naturale it. also the caps makes it sound super serious thx for that added effect.
You've never given birth have you? The pain that other people endure is so easy for you.
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I am trying to go as natural as possible. I'm realistic to the fact that I may need it later on, but I am still laughing/smiling at this point and I'm having pretty strong contractions every 2ish minutes.
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Malrothien posted: I am trying to go as natural as possible. I'm realistic to the fact that I may need it later on, but I am still laughing/smiling at this point and I'm having pretty strong contractions every 2ish minutes.
Don't worry about any asshats here Mal. You just have a good day and enjoy yourself. This is you day.
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Malrothien posted: I am trying to go as natural as possible. I'm realistic to the fact that I may need it later on, but I am still laughing/smiling at this point and I'm having pretty strong contractions every 2ish minutes.
Don't worry about any asshats here Mal. You just have a good day and enjoy yourself. This is you day.
I am surrounded by family and we're having a good time.
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gross put a towel on the seat or something
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Bring your laptop and post again when the baby's head is out.
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FYI i wasn't trying to be an ass hat, just sharing my experience that I waited too long to ask for drugs. Although I had back labor, and mal might not
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Good luck and may I get a pre-congrats in.
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Hyperimiator posted: Good luck and may I get a pre-congrats in.
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the_tessa posted: FYI i wasn't trying to be an ass hat, just sharing my experience that I waited too long to ask for drugs. Although I had back labor, and mal might not
I was responding due to Darkfire's post, not yours.
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the_tessa posted: FYI i wasn't trying to be an ass hat, just sharing my experience that I waited too long to ask for drugs. Although I had back labor, and mal might not
I was responding due to Darkfire's post, not yours.
somehow i missed it the first time.
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the_tessa posted: FYI i wasn't trying to be an ass hat, just sharing my experience that I waited too long to ask for drugs. Although I had back labor, and mal might not
Nobody warned me about it either. They do things differently in Argentina... Threw me on the pitocin drip right away, I didn't have a chance to ask for anything, hell I learned how to breathe on the table when the nurse suggested to me how to do it. 5 hours later backwards baby came out. God I wish they hadn't given me the pitocin at ALL, and drugs for pain instead. Or the damn kid could have just faced in the right direction like she was 2 days prior...
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I hope you have a smooth labor, best wishes for you and the baby. My water broke a few hours before I was supposed to be at the hospital with my second baby. Cramps woke me up (felt like I had to poop). Went and stood at my desk and my water broke all over the floor. About a hand towel's worth of mess - we threw a towel on it and left.
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No back labor for me. Still hanging out, contractions are painful now.
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If you feel like you are going to vomit... and then do, you are close.
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Malrothien posted: Water just broke - heading to the hospital!
HOLY CRAP... VN has a mobile app?
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no, they have internets on the phones now
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the_tessa posted: If you feel like you are going to vomit... and then do, you are close.
I didn't have this with either of my kids. Instead, I went into some crazy animal part of my brain, it felt like I was basically a passenger in the back of my head passively watching my body do all this really undignified stuff.
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Brandun posted: no, they have internets on the phones now
I've just tried it. This site is utterly unusable. Me thinks this thread is a fraud.
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-Accident- posted:
the_tessa posted: If you feel like you are going to vomit... and then do, you are close.
I didn't have this with either of my kids. Instead, I went into some crazy animal part of my brain, it felt like I was basically a passenger in the back of my head passively watching my body do all this really undignified stuff.
I didn't have the vomiting stuff either. I remember screaming, "I just want it out!!!!!!" lol
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Push! Haha oh god. Labor and what comes after sort of terrifies me. Lochia. AWESOME
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How's it going Mal????
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pkhere posted:
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the_tessa posted: If you feel like you are going to vomit... and then do, you are close.
I didn't have this with either of my kids. Instead, I went into some crazy animal part of my brain, it felt like I was basically a passenger in the back of my head passively watching my body do all this really undignified stuff.
I didn't have the vomiting stuff either. I remember screaming, "I just want it out!!!!!!" lol
No vomiting for me either, with any of em. I do remember having to actively push with the first one, but with the second, once I reached 10 cm my body completely took over and I had zero control. The nurse was freaking out cause the doctor wasn't in the room yet. "Don't push don't push!" she was saying. I just remember snapping back "I'm trying NOT to push but this baby is coming NOW, I have NO CONTROL over it!" Doctor was literally in the room next to mine and he came in too late- nurse had to catch the baby. My third one was quite literally laughed out.
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winga posted: Update?
We're all on pins and needles here!! Hurry it up Mal!
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Good luck Mal! Best wishes
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Gaevren posted:
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I didn't have this with either of my kids. Instead, I went into some crazy animal part of my brain, it felt like I was basically a passenger in the back of my head passively watching my body do all this really undignified stuff.
I didn't have the vomiting stuff either. I remember screaming, "I just want it out!!!!!!" lol
No vomiting for me either, with any of em. I do remember having to actively push with the first one, but with the second, once I reached 10 cm my body completely took over and I had zero control. The nurse was freaking out cause the doctor wasn't in the room yet. "Don't push don't push!" she was saying. I just remember snapping back "I'm trying NOT to push but this baby is coming NOW, I have NO CONTROL over it!" Doctor was literally in the room next to mine and he came in too late- nurse had to catch the baby. My third one was quite literally laughed out.[/quote] My second baby was positioned face-first, and my CNM thinks she might have levered herself out with her chin on my pubic bone. She started crowning as the anaesthesiologist started prepping me for a spinal (because they'd figured I was going to need a C-section). They yelled at me not to push, but that wasn't me pushing...I'd go so far as to say I was not the one driving the car at that point. The anaesthesiologist disappeared, I never even saw where he went, and they called my husband back into the room just as our daughter emerged.
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when the wife and i had the baby, it was easy for me, the drugs helped
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My son was born two years ago today and I went in at 7AM because my water broke. COINKYDINK! Good luck!
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I hope its a healthy baby girl and mommy and baby come out fine
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-Accident-: They yelled at me not to push, but that wasn't me pushing...I'd go so far as to say I was not the one driving the car at that point. That's exactly what it was like for me. My body had completely overridden any control I thought I had and was like "eff all of you, the baby comes now!" Less than three minutes later she was born. It annoyed me to be told "don't push!!" like wtf people- you think I'm doing this ON PURPOSE with no doctor in the room? Seriously?
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Good luckkkkkkkkkkkk!
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Reapist posted:
Malrothien posted: I am trying to go as natural as possible. I'm realistic to the fact that I may need it later on, but I am still laughing/smiling at this point and I'm having pretty strong contractions every 2ish minutes.
Don't worry about any asshats here Mal. You just have a good day and enjoy yourself. This is you day.
sorry, no. i'm a male, males generally don't give birth. i'm explaining this to you because you seem uneducated on basic things. for example, obesity related strokes.
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I remember joking with Mal about looking so young and called her a kid a while back. Just looked it up.....it was 8 years ago. Sheesh. Now here she is having a baby. Time flies. Hope everything is going great.
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she better still be in labor since they haven't bothered to update us...
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Jezza_Belle posted: she better still be in labor since they haven't bothered to update us...
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Jezza_Belle posted: she better still be in labor since they haven't bothered to update us...
is that first one giving birth to Chewbacca?
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Still waiting, 2 cm to go. No cool B-Day for baby!
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Lothland posted: Still waiting, 2 cm to go. No cool B-Day for baby!
WTF ARE YOU DOING POSTING, ASS GET A SHOEHORN AND A WINCH AND FKIN HELP GOD IT'S YOUR KID TOO
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Lothland posted: Still waiting, 2 cm to go. No cool B-Day for baby!
but my guess is still good
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man it'd suck to be born on mass effect 3's release date.
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Caoilin posted: man it'd suck to be born on mass effect 3's release date.
I wanna play it! Still waiting!
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Awesome! Baby <gender> will be there as soon as you know it Hope you take lots of pictures of such a huge milestone
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Caoilin posted: man it'd suck to be born on mass effect 3's release date.
I wanna play it! Still waiting!
Name it after me (your kid, not your Commander Shepard)
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I'll name my commander sheppard after you DE. Hmm.... that's actually not a bad name...Commander Sheppard *cough* might wanna run that one by Mal for the checkout?
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Caoilin posted: man it'd suck to be born on mass effect 3's release date.
I wanna play it! Still waiting!
Name it after me (your kid, not your Commander Shepard)
if the birth happens at the time I guessed, they have to give the name I suggested
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Which is my name, right?
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Dark_EternalFF posted: Which is my name, right?
Only if your name is Ezekial Ray Jezza_Belle posted: 3/7/2012 2:15am I think it's a boy, but I never got a belly pic so I can't be held to this guess. (I've never been wrong, but this is the first time I haven't seen the belly.) 7 lbs 13 oz 20.4 " long You will name him Ezekiel Ray, he'll have a best friend named Shamus at some point, but likely around 5-6 years old. He'll be successful in life, he'll be in finance and he'll marry a girl named Jackie. Don'e call him Zeke, he'll be better off if you call him "Z". (I've only ever been right about anything beyond the sex of the baby once, and that was when I told my ex's sister to name her daughter after me, she used my middle name.
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the_great_ontex posted: I'll name my commander sheppard after you DE. Hmm.... that's actually not a bad name...Commander Sheppard *cough* might wanna run that one by Mal for the checkout?
shepard is a good unisex name.
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Caoilin posted:
the_great_ontex posted: I'll name my commander sheppard after you DE. Hmm.... that's actually not a bad name...Commander Sheppard *cough* might wanna run that one by Mal for the checkout?
shepard is a good unisex name.
and would continue the Firefly theme
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In the immortal words of Bill Cosby, "Get the salad spoons man!"
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Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
Grats!! Did you watch the after birth?
It is customary to post a new thread with photos.
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
congrats! and my record holds! he's a big boy for a first baby, not surprised he got stuck. I can't even imagine how tired Mom must be after that ordeal.
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Yay, congratulations!!!
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Malrothien posted:
-Darkfire- posted: rip vagina
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It's a muscle, it'll go back.
troodat..
my wife has had 2 babies both naturalally..no shots..no nothing..
and i cant tell the difference when we make love now...
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congratulations!
Liam..
cool name!
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Nice, Grats man.
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Congrats! Great name.
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Ptilk posted: Congrats! Great name.
I actually had a patron in AC that had that name
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
Whoo hoo! Congrats to you all! Silver
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Yay grats you guys!!! Take care of momma and baby!
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Silverwuf posted:
Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
Whoo hoo! Congrats to you all! Silver
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looking forward to baby pics
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Awesome sauce. Congratulations to you all.
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Expect some pictures this weekend. We're here until Friday morning. Mom is doing good, exhasuted, but had a nap. Liam has fed three times and latched like a champ. She made it 14 hours before asking for the epidural after one of the narcotics did nothing at all for her. Otherwise, we are just hanging out and enjoying him.
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Grats! I like the name.
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pkhere posted: Grats! I like the name.
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
FOUR HOURS of pushing? Mal, I hope you have a quick recovery, and congratulations to all of you -- get some rest!
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
FOUR HOURS of pushing? Mal, I hope you have a quick recovery, and congratulations to all of you -- get some rest!
Yeah..he came out sunny side up. we eventually decided on a vacuum. :s
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Congratulations! Glad you're both healthy and everything went well. Have you chosen a middle name for him yet?
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Lothland posted: Expect some pictures this weekend. We're here until Friday morning. Otherwise, we are just hanging out and enjoying him.
what does that mean, are you and her tossing him back and forth in a game of catch or playing hot potatoe?
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Fozzie_Bear posted: looking forward to baby pics
GRATZ!!!!!
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Are you sure it's a boy? That would make me 0-3 on guessing babies sexes lately. That doesn't seem possible. (Grats! and cool name)
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Malrothien posted:
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Lothland posted: Baby Liam was born at 644AM EST this morning. 8lbs, 11oz - 4 hours of active pushing due to baby getting stuck on mom's pelvis. Oh well, he's definitely worth it!
FOUR HOURS of pushing? Mal, I hope you have a quick recovery, and congratulations to all of you -- get some rest!
Yeah..he came out sunny side up. we eventually decided on a vacuum. :s
I had the same exactly thing the first time around, only no epidural. and I pushed for 2:45, at least 2h of before they decided to use the suction cup.
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Ferrydust posted: Are you sure it's a boy? That would make me 0-3 on guessing babies sexes lately. That doesn't seem possible. (Grats! and cool name)
I am as of yet, undefeated. Tessa got mad at me when I told her River would be a girl.
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Malrothien posted: Yeah..he came out sunny side up. we eventually decided on a vacuum. :s
Sorry, but I imagined your baby is a cone-head after reading this...
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Webscar posted:
Malrothien posted: Yeah..he came out sunny side up. we eventually decided on a vacuum. :s
Sorry, but I imagined your baby is a cone-head after reading this...
he is probably more cone headed than most babies, not to mention, he'll have a circle mark on his head too.
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Jezza_Belle posted:
Webscar posted:
Malrothien posted: Yeah..he came out sunny side up. we eventually decided on a vacuum. :s
Sorry, but I imagined your baby is a cone-head after reading this...
he is probably more cone headed than most babies, not to mention, he'll have a circle mark on his head too.
That goes away after like a month or something, i don't really remember. River had a shortish umbilical cord and was stuck. I actively pushed for 2 hrs before the doc said it was time for the vacuum. Babies are cone heads anyway.
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All my babies came out so quick there was no time for cone heads to form! The longest time pushing was with my first- 17 minutes of pushing. The others were both under 5 minutes. I got asked quite often if they were all c-section babies because their heads were so nice and round. My mom says she and my dad called me "banana head" after I was born until my head went back to the right shape. I still can't really picture just how that must have looked, but I bet it was odd! I'm so happy for you Mal and Loth!
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