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I posted awhile ago about how I started getting random blue screens. I would especially get them while playing Halo 2. Well I got a new hd (ssd) and it was working fine for a bit. However, the random blue screens are back. I did a ram test and it came back negative. I would still get random blue screens but could never recreate the problem. I swapped out my old video card and put in a GTX 275. I would still get random bsods. Last night I fired up AC and when I went to change the resolution, it blue screened. The computer restarted itself and when it got to the desktop it blue screened again. It restarted a few times before it started working again. Went into AC again and 2 hours later it blue screened again.

I did notice, however, that while I was playing AC my video card (or at least that is where it sounded like it came from) was making a weird noise. I'm not sure how to describe it. Today I was messing with comp, updating vid drivers and bios to see if that would he and stumbled upon the windows index thing. I refreshed it and while it was testing direct3d, it made the same noise it was making when I was playing AC! I haven't been able to play since doing the updates today. The bsod did create a dmp file but I don't know how to "translate" them.

Does anyone have any advice? I'm absolutely stumped and am very frustrated. Please help sad

 

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My guess is that the fan on your video card is having trouble and your video card is overheating. I recommend removing the video card and cleaning it thoroughly and then replacing it and see if that fixes your problem -- also check that the fan is spinning after being cleaned.

 

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When you've ruled out Ram, video, and hard drive, not much left to cause it than PSU and MoBo.

The times I had issues with BSOD on load (while gaming) it was a PSU issue, and once a heat issue.

 

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silvadel2, I checked the fan on the video card (with the comp turned on) and it seems to be spinning fine. I also had BSODs with my previous video card. I cleaned it a couple months ago but I'll reclean it and see if that improves anything. How can I tell if there is a heat issue?

Jezza, how come it becomes a problem when I'm playing games? It will randomly blue screen when I'm not playing games but is pretty much a guaranteed blue screen when I am playing a game. Is the load somehow putting stress on the power supply? I'm going to swap my old card in again and see if it still makes the noise when I play AC. I can't recall if it made a noise when I played Halo 2 (but it did blue screen). If it does then would it be safe to say that it's not the video card?

.-Vega-., this is pretty much a fresh install of OS. When I got my new SSD drive (because I thought it was a HD issue causing my BSODs), I installed Win7. This was about 2 months ago. I'm certain it would still do it even with another install.

 

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ArmandoFF posted:
silvadel2, I checked the fan on the video card and it seems to be spinning fine. I also had BSODs with my previous video card. I cleaned it a couple months ago but I'll reclean it and see if that improves anything. How can I tell if there is a heat issue?

Jezza, how come it becomes a problem when I'm playing games? It will randomly blue screen when I'm not playing games but is pretty much a guaranteed blue screen when I am playing a game. Is the load somehow putting stress on the power supply? I'm going to swap my old card in again and see if it still makes the noise when I play AC. I can't recall if it made a noise when I played Halo 2 (but it did blue screen). If it does then would it be safe to say that it's not the video card?

.-Vega-., this is pretty much a fresh install of OS. When I got my new SSD drive (because I thought it was a HD issue causing my BSODs), I installed Win7. This was about 2 months ago. I'm certain it would still do it even with another install.


vid card is laying down..heat is a mysterious beast....

 

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^ Wut?

 

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when you are gaming you're putting a heavy load on the system, it raises the temps of the cpu and video cards, and draws more power from the psu. its difficult to say for certainty what piece it is. sometimes the BSOD itself will give a hint, it'll say that "xxx" caused an invalid page fault in module "xxx".

or something of that nature, the error message can be different. to see the message you have to turn off the auto reboot feature.

 

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I haven't swapped out the cards yet but the graphics card is a BFG Tech GeForce GTX 275. I was reading some reviews on newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143183) and came across this:

"Despite the card working for the most part, it was plagued with an unbearable issue.
The video card makes a horrible whining/buzzing/humming noise when running anything with 3D rendering (games, benchmarks, etc.)
This sound changes volume and pitch when you move the camera around in 3D rendered games. It sounded like R2-D2 was inside my case.
I read that enabling VSYNC will help quiet this issue and it did. However, the noise was still highly noticeable.
Other Thoughts: I don't know if BFG uses cheap capacitors on their cards or what, but I've never had a video card make noises like this one."

That seems to be accurate in my case. It does it when running AC and when doing the 3D tests for the Windows Index thing. I don't know what other 3D thing I can do to test it further. Also, I left AC running so I could try to pinpoint where the noise was coming from. It sounds like it's coming from the graphics card. But I didn't want to get too close and get my hair stuck and die or something. I'm going to have to swap out cards and see if it still does it.

Do you happen to know what the temp should be for the card? I can't find that info

 

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Bread, put bread in it.

Works every time.

 

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have you tried turning it off and on again?

 

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motherboard or power supply.

 

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Another thing to try -- use a different power cord from the power supply to the video card. Most power supplies have extra connections -- even if this means using one of those little cords that take 2 of the smaller power rails and turns it into the larger one.

Also move any cards that are close to the video card to other slots to give it more room to breathe.

 

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!!!Update: I swapped my old 8800GT and it's still making the same noise, but just not as loud. I just loaded up AC and it is making the exact same noise it was doing with the other card! So it looks like it's not the card (which is what I was suspecting). I have to get to bed but I have an extra power supply that I'm going to swap out and see what happens then. So for sure it looks like the power supply or mobo?

On a side note, whenever I try to use the front USB port on the case, it causes the computer to restart as soon as the metal USB connection makes contact. Not sure if that is somehow related or is another issue entirely.

Edit: Jezza, I feel stupid. I'm pretty tired and as a result forgot to plug in the connector to the video card. I didn't see it. I edited it out.

 

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ArmandoFF posted:
Update: I swapped my old 8800GT and as soon as i turned it on, it made an extremely loud noise. Even louder than with the other card. so I'm thinking that it's not the card. I don't know if this is worth noting but the 8800GT just snaps into the motherboard. It doesn't require extra connections from the power supply. However, the GeForce gtx 275 requires 2 extra 6 pin connections. Why would it make an even louder noise with the other card that requires no extra connections from the power supply?


its hard to say, you could easily have jostled the board and whatever is making the noise when you changed the cards out, make sure you don't have some stray wire hanging into a fan too, those will make gawdawful noises.

 

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Another update: I tried a different power supply and launched AC. It's doing the same thing. The noise seems to be coming from the area around the video card. So, if it's not the video card, power supply, or RAM, then it must be the motherboard (possibly a bad capacitor?)?

 

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ArmandoFF posted:
Another update: I tried a different power supply and launched AC. It's doing the same thing. The noise seems to be coming from the area around the video card. So, if it's not the video card, power supply, or RAM, then it must be the motherboard (possibly a bad capacitor?)?


You should probably let a nerdy friend take a look. It's pretty obvious that you have no idea what you are doing so any advice I'd give would probably result with you sticking peanut butter between your toes.

 

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