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No nukes for you!

Does anyone really think that the US can prevent Iran from getting nukes without invading the country?

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I am glad a Democrat is in office. Another bull in the china shop would have been disastrous.

 

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Frankly I'm getting tired of us having to police the whole world. Id say let Israel take care of Iran. Its not like theyd have a problem doing it.

 

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Uninformed as usual.. Mascara.. Their fighters can't do the round trip to Iran and back, they will at least need to land on US bases or Aircraft carriers and if the US has gone that far you might as well send support because Iran if attacked even without US support will see it as as joint venture.

If Israel attacks Iran, the US will have to dance.. And Europe will probably have to help and we have enough assets in Afghanistan to do so.

 

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Uninformed as usual.. Mascara.. Their fighters can't do the round trip to Iran and back, they will at least need to land on US bases or Aircraft carriers and if the US has gone that far you might as well send support because Iran if attacked even without US support will see it as as joint venture.

If Israel attacks Iran, the US will have to dance.. And Europe will probably have to help and we have enough assets in Afghanistan to do so.




Well said Manny. People that aren't seeing that are partisan hacks that care more for their party than their country.

 

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I'm personally for war with Iran, I think Europe should send fighter jets and bombers too.

Because if Iran gets the bomb they will be impossible to deal with, a nuclear weapon isn't really a offensive weapon it's a deterrence to aggression. No matter how small or weak your army is if you have a few nukes even the largest armies will leave you alone.

And if the US lets Iran get the bomb then the whole negotiation and power situation in the area goes haywire.. The straits of Hormuz is probably the most important area for Oil trade in the world if Iran gets the bomb then our strategic resources are threatened, not by the nuke but by the negotiation power it will give to Iran.

I say hit swiftly and hard US, Europe and Israel join venture.. Hit every military installation in Iran get CIA on the job of supplying the rebellious elements with weapons and just sit back and let the people of Iran crush the fundamentalist whack-jobs in power.

Religion is a stupid way of governance.

 

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Well let Sweden and its IKEA army go to war with Iran not hte US

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"Uninformed as usual.. Mascara.. Their fighters can't do the round trip to Iran and back, they will at least need to land on US bases or Aircraft carriers and if the US has gone that far you might as well send support because Iran if attacked even without US support will see it as as joint venture."


Absolutely untrue. Saudi's have already given the green light for ISF forces to fly over their territory and refuel as needed.

That is why the US is bulking up in the area, for the retaliation against the Saudis who will have been seen as aiding the Israelis. Iran has already made a few threats to countries in the "arab world who would assist in an attack on Iran even if just to let them pass through their air space".

Israel can easily deal with Iran straight up.

Dealing with Chinese and Russian backed assistance will be more problematic.

 

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Manegarm posted:
Religion is a stupid way of governance.




I totally agree. Keep the government and religion separate.

 

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Bowlartz posted:
"Uninformed as usual.. Mascara.. Their fighters can't do the round trip to Iran and back, they will at least need to land on US bases or Aircraft carriers and if the US has gone that far you might as well send support because Iran if attacked even without US support will see it as as joint venture."


Absolutely untrue. Saudi's have already given the green light for ISF forces to fly over their territory and refuel as needed.

That is why the US is bulking up in the area, for the retaliation against the Saudis who will have been seen as aiding the Israelis. Iran has already made a few threats to countries in the "arab world who would assist in an attack on Iran even if just to let them pass through their air space".

Israel can easily deal with Iran straight up.

Dealing with Chinese and Russian backed assistance will be more problematic.


Completely true the fact that Israeli fighters does not have the required range to attack Iran by themselves they need to stop and refuel which means Israel can't attack without having to stop and refuel, and where they do it is immaterial.

 

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There's a lot of overconfidence when it comes to Israel too. I'm not sure they'd have the capabilities even if they could cover the distance. Sure, they have nukes, but they would completely isolate themselves from the world if they provoked a war and then detonated a nuclear weapon on a some-what democratic populous.

 

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There's zero evidence out there that suggests Iran nuclear program is in anyway involved in nuclear weapons. There's more evidence to the contrary actually

But yup, derr derr derr another war based on no evidence sold to the American people through the media

 

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