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Food-stamp use jumped in the U.S. in December with more than 1 in 7 people receiving benefits, even as a program for disaster assistance related to Hurricane Irene came to an end.
Food stamp rolls increased 5.5% in 2011, the Department of Agriculture reported, though the pace of growth has slowed from the depths of the recession.
The number of recipients in the food stamp program, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), rose to 46.5 million, or 15% of the population in December. The numbers receiving benefits were boosted by disaster assistance in the late summer and autumn due to Hurricane Irene, but the those programs were largely ended by December in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey and Pennsylvania the last states still in need.
Minnesota, Colorado, Hawaii, Alaska, New Jersey, Delaware and Iowa all saw year-over-year jumps in use by over 10%. Just Wyoming, Michigan, North Dakota, Utah and West Virginia posted annual drops in the number of people receiving food stamps.
Mississippi reported the largest share of its population relying on food stamps, more than 21%. One in five residents in New Mexico, Oregon, Tennessee and Washington DC also were food-stamp recipients.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/03/02/more-than-1-in-7-use-food-stamps-in-u-s/?mod=wsj_share_twitter
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Well, lets look at this objectively now.
Democrats give you food stamps.
Republicans give you nothing.
I know who I would prefer to have in office if I was starving and needed food.
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I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
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Still better than having to steal to survive, despite BT's vision for America.
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Still better than having to steal to survive, despite BT's vision for America.
They could hand out beans and rice? Just a thought...
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I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
What do you make an hour Whipsmack, how many hours a week do you work and what do you take home every 2 weeks on a paycheck (after taxes of course).
Just curious. And no, I don't have some hidden intent to make you look bad or feel poor or anything. I am legitimately curious what somebody making that takes home.
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Percentage of American households receiving food stamps... Up 63% under Bush...up 47% under Obama.
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They saved my ass for a few months after my stroke, before money showed up.
I did that rather than take money from my kids. 
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Sometimes I wonder if it would be better if they just gave everyone a food allowance instead of giving those poor who apply said.
If everyone just got a card that gave $X food per month then they could close down the whole department, wouldnt have to bother interviewing or checking assets etc of anyone. And it would remove the downward bias to stay in the program vs a little higher salary and losing it.
Actually thinking about it that way you could give-take a lot of things and remove the baseline programs thus parodoxically shrinking government and making it such that yeah if you dont work you can live crappy but there is a reason to have even a minimum wage job as opposed to it being better to stay unemployed.
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I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
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WhipSmack posted:
I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
What do you make an hour Whipsmack, how many hours a week do you work and what do you take home every 2 weeks on a paycheck (after taxes of course).
Just curious. And no, I don't have some hidden intent to make you look bad or feel poor or anything. I am legitimately curious what somebody making that takes home.
I can say that minimum wage here is $8.80 an hour We have no problems with bills or saving money, but living costs are very cheap here. I have made a choice, not to go into any sort of debt. I make pennies compared to most of you but I don't even have to work full-time to pay bills.
The people I know of that are on food stamps, have new cars and spend all their money on worthless crap. They are in so much debt, and that is why they qualify for the food stamps. So if you are irresponsible, you are rewarded.
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last i heard about the U.S. population, it was closer to 330 million. also, those 400 probably give more to charity (like food banks and soup kitchens) than your 150 million combined.
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I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
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WhipSmack posted:
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WhipSmack posted:
I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
What do you make an hour Whipsmack, how many hours a week do you work and what do you take home every 2 weeks on a paycheck (after taxes of course).
Just curious. And no, I don't have some hidden intent to make you look bad or feel poor or anything. I am legitimately curious what somebody making that takes home.
I can say that minimum wage here is $8.80 an hour We have no problems with bills or saving money, but living costs are very cheap here. I have made a choice, not to go into any sort of debt. I make pennies compared to most of you but I don't even have to work full-time to pay bills.
The people I know of that are on food stamps, have new cars and spend all their money on worthless crap. They are in so much debt, and that is why they qualify for the food stamps. So if you are irresponsible, you are rewarded.
But I thought spending money on stupid things is what life is about?
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I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
Well, you don't have a Free Market Economy actually....
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Well, lets look at this objectively now.
Democrats give you food stamps.
Republicans give you nothing.
I know who I would prefer to have in office if I was starving and needed food.
lol
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uglydwarf posted:
last i heard about the U.S. population, it was closer to 330 million. also, those 400 probably give more to charity (like food banks and soup kitchens) than your 150 million combined.
suntzukali2 posted:
I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
sure they do and we must thank them for the scraps they give us.
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They saved my ass for a few months after my stroke, before money showed up.
I did that rather than take money from my kids.
so you took money from me ....
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They saved my ass for a few months after my stroke, before money showed up.
I did that rather than take money from my kids.
so you took money from me ....
yeah thats what she did. Not like she hasnt paid taxes her entire life.
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suntzukali2 posted:
Bat_Avenger posted:
Varece posted:
They saved my ass for a few months after my stroke, before money showed up.
I did that rather than take money from my kids.
so you took money from me ....
yeah thats what she did. Not like she hasnt paid taxes her entire life.
GREAT! I can get mine back.
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I have paid taxes my whole working life, so pick on someone who cares about your unAmerican drivel.
And yes, I care more about my kids than you. 
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uglydwarf posted:
last i heard about the U.S. population, it was closer to 330 million. also, those 400 probably give more to charity (like food banks and soup kitchens) than your 150 million combined.
suntzukali2 posted:
I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
Conservative give more to charity than liberals
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
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I have paid taxes my whole working life, so pick on someone who cares about your unAmerican drivel.
And yes, I care more about my kids than you.
And i really couldn't care less about you ... and yet i give you money.
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Oh now that we are talking about taxes. Did you know that your tax dollars go to paying off around $400 billion a year just to pay off the INTEREST charges to our debt? Imagine that.
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-Mithan- posted:
WhipSmack posted:
I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
What do you make an hour Whipsmack, how many hours a week do you work and what do you take home every 2 weeks on a paycheck (after taxes of course).
Just curious. And no, I don't have some hidden intent to make you look bad or feel poor or anything. I am legitimately curious what somebody making that takes home.
I can say that minimum wage here is $8.80 an hour We have no problems with bills or saving money, but living costs are very cheap here. I have made a choice, not to go into any sort of debt. I make pennies compared to most of you but I don't even have to work full-time to pay bills.
The people I know of that are on food stamps, have new cars and spend all their money on worthless crap. They are in so much debt, and that is why they qualify for the food stamps. So if you are irresponsible, you are rewarded.
You have to disclose assets when you apply for food stamps. In Florida a valuable new car will count against you and you have to disclose your monthly bills, but "debt" in general is not going to help someone get food stamps. Since states set these guidelines if you are upset with them then let your congressmen know.
More information here.
Have your friends been poor most of their lives? People in poverty tend to not have very good money management skills and repeat the same behaviors over and over. I still stand by the idea that recipients of food stamps need to attend financial literacy/budgeting courses, nutrition classes, and shopping classes. If nothing it will deter people from getting them because it will be too much hassle, and for the others it will give them skills they are lacking.
Minimum wage here is the standard Federal Minimum Wage ~ $7.25 :\
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How dare Varece have a medical problem which causes her not to be able to work!
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How dare Varece have a medical problem which causes her not to be able to work!
He should rely on charity or die, not theft.
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I read the article and all I came away with was, "O SNAP!"
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batty is giving me money too. 
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Elect a Republican so it can go up to 6 in 7!
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Varece posted:
I have paid taxes my whole working life, so pick on someone who cares about your unAmerican drivel.
And yes, I care more about my kids than you.
And i really couldn't care less about you ... and yet i give you money.
False. You specifically called her out.
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At least I have the balls to admit I've used the service, how it is intended and stopped the second I didn't need it.
That probably says a lot more than the skanks of ACF who abuse it and would never admit in a million years they use it.
I would rather be working in a heartbeat. I don't like being dependent on anyone. My poor kids are saints.
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You have to disclose assets when you apply for food stamps. In Florida a valuable new car will count against you and you have to disclose your monthly bills, but "debt" in general is not going to help someone get food stamps. Since states set these guidelines if you are upset with them then let your congressmen know.
More information here.
Have your friends been poor most of their lives? People in poverty tend to not have very good money management skills and repeat the same behaviors over and over. I still stand by the idea that recipients of food stamps need to attend financial literacy/budgeting courses, nutrition classes, and shopping classes. If nothing it will deter people from getting them because it will be too much hassle, and for the others it will give them skills they are lacking.
Minimum wage here is the standard Federal Minimum Wage ~ $7.25 :\
I think the major problem is that most people lie on their applications... and it costs more money than it is worth to fact check every application.
I have no problem with food stamps. It is pretty much one of the few government stimulus things that work.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/outreach/pdfs/bc_facts.pdf
-Every $5 in new SNAP benefits generates $9.00 in total community spending.
-Every additional dollar’s worth of SNAP benefits generates 17 to 47 cents of new
spending on food.
-On average, $1 billion of retail food demand by SNAP recipients generates close to 3,000
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At least I have the balls to admit I've used the service, how it is intended and stopped the second I didn't need it.
That probably says a lot more than the skanks of ACF who abuse it and would never admit in a million years they use it.
I would rather be working in a heartbeat. I don't like being dependent on anyone. My poor kids are saints.
You don't need to defend yourself, it's Bat_Avenger.
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Varece posted:
At least I have the balls to admit I've used the service, how it is intended and stopped the second I didn't need it.
That probably says a lot more than the skanks of ACF who abuse it and would never admit in a million years they use it.
I would rather be working in a heartbeat. I don't like being dependent on anyone. My poor kids are saints.
but you were dependent... just your kids, friends, neighbors (ya know the people that like you) didn't care enough for you so i had to help.
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Really trying hard aren't you?
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I've played the troll game too long on this one. Just to make you feel important on ACF, you win!
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combat_mage_sc posted:
uglydwarf posted:
last i heard about the U.S. population, it was closer to 330 million. also, those 400 probably give more to charity (like food banks and soup kitchens) than your 150 million combined.
suntzukali2 posted:
I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
Conservative give more to charity than liberals
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
and when you remove Tithing from that, it swings the other way.
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WhipSmack posted:
-Mithan- posted:
WhipSmack posted:
I checked to see what qualifies someone. 2 people have to make under 1,400... I work minimum wage and I still wouldn't be able to qualify... Who would think there would be people poorer than me?
What do you make an hour Whipsmack, how many hours a week do you work and what do you take home every 2 weeks on a paycheck (after taxes of course).
Just curious. And no, I don't have some hidden intent to make you look bad or feel poor or anything. I am legitimately curious what somebody making that takes home.
I can say that minimum wage here is $8.80 an hour We have no problems with bills or saving money, but living costs are very cheap here. I have made a choice, not to go into any sort of debt. I make pennies compared to most of you but I don't even have to work full-time to pay bills.
The people I know of that are on food stamps, have new cars and spend all their money on worthless crap. They are in so much debt, and that is why they qualify for the food stamps. So if you are irresponsible, you are rewarded.
I'm jelly. Budgeting $350/month on food (and I know I could probably get by on a bit less, but not while eating healthy food, at least not around here), I figure I'd have $100-150 left over each month, after expenses, were I to move out of my parents' house. I make just under $26k/yr, or about $12.50/hr.
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combat_mage_sc posted:
uglydwarf posted:
last i heard about the U.S. population, it was closer to 330 million. also, those 400 probably give more to charity (like food banks and soup kitchens) than your 150 million combined.
suntzukali2 posted:
I guess this shows how well the free market economy and trickle down economics really work. America where the top 400 people have more money then the other 150 million Americans combined and we don't see a problem with this.
Conservative give more to charity than liberals
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
i thought most rich own the noname charities they give to... so it's just spreading your assets, not giving to charity. O_o
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