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Topic: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church

__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	-----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Afio Title: Belle of the Bull Posts: 22,285 Registered: Mar 19, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,957 User ID: 659,266	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	And in other news http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/barbara-johnson-maryland-lesbian-denied-communion-funeral_n_1316869.html "A Maryland lesbian who was denied Communion by a Catholic priest while attending her mother's funeral is speaking out about her experience. CNN's Brooke Baldwin spoke to Barbara Johnson, who confirmed previously reported details of the incident. "I approached [Father Marcel Guarnizo of Gaithersburg's Saint John Neumann Catholic Church] to receive communion, and at that moment, he placed his hand over the bowl containing the Eucharist and looked into my eyes and said, 'I cannot give you Communion because you live with a woman, and in the eyes of the church, that is a sin.'" Johnson, 51, now says that Father Marcel also left the altar as she was delivering her eulogy. Though Johnson has reached out via an email, the priest has yet to apologize. Meanwhile, as The Washington Post is reporting, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Washington has since apologized in a statement, noting that the priest has an obligation to "handle such a situation pastorally by discussing the consequences of such sin with the person privately before actually denying them Communion." As Johnson noted, "My family are very appreciate of all of the outreach we've received. However, we believe the only reason to be talking about this still is because we would not want any other family to go through what was the worst experience on the very worst day of all of our lives...we feel that it is important that Father Marcel is removed from parish life." This priest needs to be retired. -----signature----- I'm not old, I'm crunchy. IMHO: "You know your poop,Lyndrek" "Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow." - Ronald E. Osborn I stole the above from Bonk's facebook, thanks.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	Why is who she sleeps with important to the stupid priest? -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	That is so wrong. Heard about that on the news. So mean of that priest -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	The Catholics are very particular about communion. They will refuse to give it to people for a variety of reasons. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/who-can-receive-communion "First, you must be in a state of grace. "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup" (1 Cor. 11:27â€“28). This is an absolute requirement which can never be dispensed. To receive the Eucharist without sanctifying grace in your soul profanes the Eucharist in the most grievous manner. A mortal sin is any sin whose matter is grave and which has been committed willfully and with knowledge of its seriousness. Grave matter includes, but is not limited to, murder, receiving or participating in an abortion, homosexual acts, having sexual intercourse outside of marriage or in an invalid marriage, and deliberately engaging in impure thoughts (Matt. 5:28â€“29). Scripture contains lists of mortal sins (for example, 1 Cor. 6:9â€“10 and Gal. 5:19â€“21). For further information on what constitutes a mortal sin, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Out of habit and out of fear of what those around them will think if they do not receive Communion, some Catholics, in a state of mortal sin, choose to go forward and offend God rather than stay in the pew while others receive the Eucharist. The Churchâ€™s ancient teaching on this particular matter is expressed in the Didache, an early Christian document written around A.D. 70, which states: "Whosoever is holy [i.e., in a state of sanctifying grace], let him approach. Whosoever is not, let him repent" (Didache 10). Second, you must have been to confession since your last mortal sin. The Didache witnesses to this practice of the early Church. "But first make confession of your faults, so that your sacrifice may be a pure one" (Didache 14). The 1983 Code of Canon Law indicates that the same requirement applies today. "A person who is conscious of a grave sin is not to . . . receive the body of the Lord without prior sacramental confession unless a grave reason is present and there is no opportunity of confessing; in this case the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, including the intention of confessing as soon as possible" (CIC 916)." -----signature----- (none)
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Afio Title: Belle of the Bull Posts: 22,285 Registered: Mar 19, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,957 User ID: 659,266	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	I had not been to mass in a very long time when my grandmother died. The priest was at the funeral home and I talked to him. He allowed me to receive communion. Did priests refuse communion to Bobby Kennedy? I don't think so. This priest in question was wrong. -----signature----- I'm not old, I'm crunchy. IMHO: "You know your poop,Lyndrek" "Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow." - Ronald E. Osborn I stole the above from Bonk's facebook, thanks.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Al Sharpton to give out condoms instead of communion wafers at his church
	Not according to Catholic doctrine. Just sayin... -----signature----- (none)
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