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http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1276/science-survey
No wonder conservatives are so hostile towards intellectualism and science. Not only does truth have a liberal bias, but people who dedicate their lives to seeking the truth overwhelmingly reject the GOP. I guess they have all of the moral authority of Jesus, the Koch family, and McMBAs driving their viewpoints so it doesn't matter.
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The GOP denies evolution, global warming, and that education is important.
Why the fuck would any scientist identify with such a group of idiots?
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No surprise there.
I'm an engineer and am pretty moderate but I just can't stomach people like hughes, paulg, etc. I know I'm being trolled but the retarded things that come out of their mouth just aggravate me that I have to share a planet with them. Libertarians are getting more and more annoying as well with people like brother templar spouting off how government is the cause of all evil but somehow magically becomes ok if ron paul is president.
Liberals as a whole seem to be the only ones with some sense.
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Many, if not most scientists live on the public dole or are educators. Many of them live their lives insulated from reality, in the Brigadoon of academia thinking that everything should work in the real world like it works on a college campus where the daily goings on are governed by as much or more bureaucracy as the "real world" and where the hierarchy of the ruling class (administrators and board over professors over peasants (students)) is quite literally feudal. No surprise that they would identify as liberals and democrats.
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Cawlin posted:
Many, if not most scientists live on the public dole or are educators. Many of them live their lives insulated from reality, in the Brigadoon of academia thinking that everything should work in the real world like it works on a college campus where the daily goings on are governed by as much or more bureaucracy as the "real world" and where the hierarchy of the ruling class (administrators and board over professors over peasants (students)) is quite literally feudal. No surprise that they would identify as liberals and democrats.
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"President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college.
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What a snob!"
-Rick Santorum
And then the Republican crowd cheered and clapped.
My wife and I were horrified when we saw the footage.
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im aboot to stop identifying as a Republican
the ingrained Christian pandering is starting to really bother me
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Jaedence posted:
"President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college.
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What a snob!"
-Rick Santorum
And then the Republican crowd cheered and clapped.
My wife and I were horrified when we saw the footage.
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Clearly what the economy needs is more people with BAs in Indo-Eurasian Poetry working off $200k in student loan debt at McDonalds.
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AzureTyger posted:
No wonder conservatives are so hostile towards intellectualism and science.
And yet the very first line of the article you cite...
Americans like science. Overwhelming majorities say that science has had a positive effect on society and that science has made life easier for most people.
AzureTyger posted:
Not only does truth have a liberal bias, but people who dedicate their lives to seeking the truth overwhelmingly reject the GOP.
Really? Let's take it to your cite again shall we?
More than half of the scientists surveyed (55%) say they are Democrats So 55% is an overwhelming rejection of the GOP?
Sounds more like the rest of the scientists actually are scientists - and rather than embracing a position without consideration (like a good little liberal) they choose to self-identify as "independent" instead.
I would interpret that poll not as a condemnation of the GOP, but a rather telling example of who the actual scientists are. Here's a hint: The real scientists are not self-identifying themselves with the DNC... or any political party. 
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AzureTyger posted:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1276/science-survey
This proving the statement of a liberal academia ...
When one cannot control the system through politics, merely control the system of education
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Brother_Tempus posted:
AzureTyger posted:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1276/science-survey
This proving the statement of a liberal academia ...
When one cannot control the system through politics, merely control the system of education
Yes - because as you so eloquently put it - education is the bane of Republicans...
Way to prove the thread premise correct dumb ass..
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reesescups posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
AzureTyger posted:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1276/science-survey
This proving the statement of a liberal academia ...
When one cannot control the system through politics, merely control the system of education
Yes - because as you so eloquently put it - education is .
a way to indoctrinates someone since they have no resistance to it at very young ages ...
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a way to indoctrinates someone since they have no resistance to it at very young ages ...
Let me guess
You were home schooled...
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There is actually some pretty good social science out there on the effect of trying to persuade conservatives with facts or reason. Shockingly enough, the more education a conservative has the more likely they are to be ideologically wedded to the view point and to seek out news sources and information that agrees with it, becoming therefore extremely vulnerable to the manipulations of right wing talking points. It's a cognitive device called motivated reasoning and studies have shown this is especially strong in conservatives.
The bottom line is that it is actually not just useless, but counterproductive to approach conservatives with factual evidence, as their psychological defense will kick in and they will simply become more entrenched in their viewpoint and counter with memorized (mis)information and sound bytes. So the answer might actually be to keep conservatives as dumb as possible because they are actually more likely to be persuaded with facts. It's fascinating but tragic.
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I think the ' conservative' stance is not bad. The current republucan party however is not the traditional cnservative.
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The bottom line is that it is actually not just useless, but counterproductive to approach conservatives with factual evidence, as their psychological defense will kick in and they will simply become more entrenched in their viewpoint
Uh - the only "factual evidence" so far cited, by yourself no less, has directly contradicted your original premise - yet you choose to ignore that and remain entrenched in your viewpoint?
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I guess this is important to someone and it looks like it could be good troll material.
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More than half of the scientists surveyed (55%) say they are Democrats
According to the liberals in this thread, that means 45% of scientists are against the Democratic party.
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reesescups posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
a way to indoctrinates someone since they have no resistance to it at very young ages ...
Let me guess
You were home schooled...
Private schools, my 2 boys go to a private school as well
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eodoll posted:
I think the ' conservative' stance is not bad. The current republucan party however is not the traditional cnservative.
Ron Paul is but I state that to emphasize your point
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Koneg posted:
AzureTyger posted:
No wonder conservatives are so hostile towards intellectualism and science.
And yet the very first line of the article you cite...
Americans like science. Overwhelming majorities say that science has had a positive effect on society and that science has made life easier for most people.
AzureTyger posted:
Not only does truth have a liberal bias, but people who dedicate their lives to seeking the truth overwhelmingly reject the GOP.
Really? Let's take it to your cite again shall we?
More than half of the scientists surveyed (55%) say they are Democrats So 55% is an overwhelming rejection of the GOP?
Sounds more like the rest of the scientists actually are scientists - and rather than embracing a position without consideration (like a good little liberal) they choose to self-identify as "independent" instead.
I would interpret that poll not as a condemnation of the GOP, but a rather telling example of who the actual scientists are. Here's a hint: The real scientists are not self-identifying themselves with the DNC... or any political party.
Bad statistical analysis with you misinterpreting the 55% statistic.
And your definition of scientist 'cant identify with a political party' is pretty dumz too since it has nothing to do with actual science and everything to do with partisan stupidity. You are the poster child for the OP. When talking about 'science', the only thing you are really interested in is defending the party. 
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I don't think the data indicates that scientists support the democratic party, I think that is the point - an interest in truth over partisanship. I am certain the democrats align somewhat more with their liberal values which is why vastly larger numbers self identify as Democrat. The point is that they reject the Republican Party, which most likely has to do with the fact that the GOP and conservatives in general have not only aligned themselves as enemies of intellectualism and science, but they have also proved to be very rigid in doing the exact opposite of what science does. In other words, more knowledge makes them less rational.
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Bad statistical analysis with you misinterpreting the 55% statistic.
And your definition of scientist 'cant identify with a political party' is pretty dumz too since it has nothing to do with actual science and everything to do with partisan stupidity. You are the poster child for the OP. When talking about 'science', the only thing you are really interested in is defending the party.
*scratches head* 
How you could read what I wrote and still somehow come up with this interpretation suggests only one logical conclusion: You're the product of a public school education and have never tried to correct that deficiency since graduating. 
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Damn Koneg your post is full of fail.
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Koneg making a fool of himself? How original!
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Cawlin posted:
Many, if not most scientists live on the public dole or are educators. Many of them live their lives insulated from reality, in the Brigadoon of academia thinking that everything should work in the real world like it works on a college campus where the daily goings on are governed by as much or more bureaucracy as the "real world" and where the hierarchy of the ruling class (administrators and board over professors over peasants (students)) is quite literally feudal. No surprise that they would identify as liberals and democrats.
Strange I've always had the impression that the US college and university system was very relaxed when it comes to hierarchy.
Colleges and universities are if anything the best institutions humanity has, nowhere else can people raise their meager knowledge and exchange ideas, even more so if you have a lot of foreign students.. People from different creeds and cultures exchanging ideas. More or less why we've evolved so much the last 100 years.
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