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It's not like poor people are buying fruits and vegetables with them.
Food stamps should be handled by the department of get a fkin' job.
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The better question to ask is why do food stamps exist?
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I have no idea how to argue with someone who is more fiscally conservative than me because it never comes up.
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Something like 40% of people on Food Stamps are employed or live in a household where there is at least one working adult.
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paul wonders why they aren't given out by the post office.
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The better question to ask is why do food stamps exist?
To avoid revolution, duh
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bstulic posted:
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The better question to ask is why do food stamps exist?
To avoid revolution, duh
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paul wonders why they aren't given out by the post office.
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Because Democrats like fatties? Food stamps result in a weight gain of like 10lb/year.
In actuality, because the USDA was in charge of determining which food was surplus. In the original program, you purchased coupons good only for surplus food. That changed, but buying your stamps continued.
I remember Mom sometimes getting less food stamps because she couldn't afford to buy them all. Not that we ever went hungry, but the variety sure dropped off a lot some months. Sometimes we ate not much more than rice, beans and oatmeal. Oh and fresh bread made from USDA bulgar, and spread with USDA cheese or USDA peanut butter.
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Because Democrats like fatties? Food stamps result in a weight gain of like 10lb/year.
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Yeah. I remember back when dad was serving in Vietnam, we got food stamps. Had to go to the courthouse every month and sit in line for hours to buy your stamps. I think mom got $70 dollars worth of stamps for $35 bucks back then. I hated those damn coupon books.
As stated, the original program (back in the 30's - 40's) was for excess and surplus agricultural products, so the USDA was in charge. When JFK restarted the program (first thing he did the day he took office) he instructed the USDA to implement the program...and it's been with them ever since.
As to why we have a food stamp program...as mentioned, there would be food riots in the streets if we didn't. Half of all recipients are children, another 20% are disabled (many of them veterans), and another 15% are elderly.....showing that the vast majority of all people who receive food stamps are either kids, geezers, or gimps. Not able bodied adults who just sit around getting fat as some people seem to believe.
The other major reason we have a food stamp program is it is a HUGE subsidy for both agriculture and grocery stores. Many grocery stores see half or more of their total sales purchased using food stamps. Many could not survive without those purchases.
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bstulic posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
The better question to ask is why do food stamps exist?
To avoid revolution, duh
At least someone with a more honest answer ....
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In actuality, because the USDA was in charge of determining which food was surplus. .
Too bad the FDA is another illegal construct like Food Stamps
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Why is Paul advocating for the creation of another government agency? We don't need a Department of Food.
Shame on you and your big government requests!
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Why is Paul advocating for the creation of another government agency? We don't need a Department of Food.
We don;t need a foodstamps or the FDA either
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I'd much prefer higher crime, medical, police and jail costs to food stamps because it's so cost efficient.
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Fixing for accuracy - i'd much rather people who can't hack it die and the bodies lie in the street. It would create two new industries in our free market - body disposal and free for all body looting. I hope i find a purple epic.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
The better question to ask is why do food stamps exist?
are you really THAT stupid? Don't answer it was rhetorical.
To help struggling families put food on their tables.
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Food Stamps exist because the last thing any government needs is a hungry population with a bone to pick. Starvation is one of those "desperations" that causes populations to revolt.
Keep em fed, keep em entertained, and they'll stfu as a country's wealth is siphoned.
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45 Million Americans currently get some sort of food assistance...
45 Million........
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I read an article about 6 months ago about some ghetto black guy who has been on welfare for most of his adult life, who won a multi million dollar lottery and decided to still collect food stamps. Made me mad. qq
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45 Million Americans currently get some sort of food assistance...
45 Million........
It's 46 million now and still growing
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If we would just end the food stamp program there would be ZERO people on food stamps!
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Food stamps and welfre are cheap.. And people really do need them. No one becomes a millionaire from scammong that system.
Go after low hanging fruit.. Medicare fraud costs us billions every year and its educated people that would otherwise be well to do stealing the money.
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Food stamps and welfre are cheap..
no it's not. At the beginning the cost may be cheap, but when you subsidize something, you get more of it
When you get more of it, than the costs for it ruse, no longer becoming so cheap
eodoil does mot address the illegality of the system nor the fact that the money to run this illegal system requires government to steal from citizens thus making the system immoral as well as illegal
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When you offer someone free food, free health care, free housing, free utilities, why are you surprised when they sit back and enjoy it (or work under the able so they keep their freebies).
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People seem to work in Germany and they have UHC.
I am not sure employment works the way you think it does.
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People seem to work in Germany and they have UHC.
poeple allow the government to tax them to death, it is so bad there is thriving black market of Germans asking troops who are exempt from the German VAT and other taxes to make purchses for them
the average net salary for a German is usually 10-15% less than their US counterpart and there is no way to opt out
Germans have compulsory military conscription, something that dies not exist here in The US
The cost to the German individual for all these government perks is to be a share cropping slave to the state
And while some here might embrace such a miserable existence, the feeling is not universal
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People seem to work in Germany and they have UHC.
poeple allow the government to tax them to death, it is so bad there is thriving black market of Germans asking troops who are exempt from the German VAT and other taxes to make purchses for them
That has nothing to do with it being bad, people do that in every country where it's possible. That's human nature, take advantage of a system whenever you can. It would be like that no matter which system was in place, government or private.
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yes it does .... Along with all the items I listed that you omitted
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Of course people try and avoid being taxed. BT you are an idiot.
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yes it does .... Along with all the items I listed that you omitted
They were doing it before things were 'bad', they do and always have here too. You posted a bunch of irrelevant and are too dumb to even realize it.
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Of course people try and avoid being stolen from. BT.
yup you think government would get the hint
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yes it does .... Along with all the items I listed that you omitted
They were doing it before things were 'bad',
doing those things is how it got that bad
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Of course people try and avoid being taxed. BT you are an idiot.
yup you think government would get the hint
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yes it does .... Along with all the items I listed that you omitted
They were doing it before things were 'bad',
doing those things is how it got that bad
People circumventing taxes made things so bad it's forcing people to circumvent paying taxes? 
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people circumventing taxes made things so bad
no, just government taxing to much is what made things so bad
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Yeah. I remember back when dad was serving in Vietnam, we got food stamps. Had to go to the courthouse every month and sit in line for hours to buy your stamps. I think mom got $70 dollars worth of stamps for $35 bucks back then. I hated those damn coupon books.
As stated, the original program (back in the 30's - 40's) was for excess and surplus agricultural products, so the USDA was in charge. When JFK restarted the program (first thing he did the day he took office) he instructed the USDA to implement the program...and it's been with them ever since.
As to why we have a food stamp program...as mentioned, there would be food riots in the streets if we didn't. Half of all recipients are children, another 20% are disabled (many of them veterans), and another 15% are elderly.....showing that the vast majority of all people who receive food stamps are either kids, geezers, or gimps. Not able bodied adults who just sit around getting fat as some people seem to believe.
The other major reason we have a food stamp program is it is a HUGE subsidy for both agriculture and grocery stores. Many grocery stores see half or more of their total sales purchased using food stamps. Many could not survive without those purchases.
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What? No way! Everyone on food stamps is just fat and lazy and wants to suck off the government tit. OMG, once again facts and statistics get in the way of my world view! What will I do? Wait! I know, I'll just ignore these facts like I do with everything else that doesn't conform with my belief system.
*exerts a small amount of willpowerr*
Whew. That's better.
Lazy welfare people. I hates them.
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Because Democrats like fatties? Food stamps result in a weight gain of like 10lb/year.
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http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Science/Does-the-Food-Stamp-Program-cause-obesity
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/eib34/eib34.pdf
http://www.ers.usda.gov/AmberWaves/February06/Features/feature4.htm
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Holy crap, poor people are fatter than other people? SAY IT AINT SO!
P.S. The abstract in your second link says the opposite of what you are saying. So does the third source, which says:
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Because food stamps are designed to serve as a first-line defense against hunger, it would be ironic if food stamps were connected to America’s obesity problem. Though such a connection appeared to exist in the late 1980s and early 1990s, it does not appear to hold today.
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I hate it when you link to a source...and it turns out your source says you are wrong.
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I didn't read all of it either.
But what I skimmed in the 2nd one said 6% increased chance of obesity in women.
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