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Many of you may be surprised by this too. But this is a man I think was truly insane. He is executed for killing his adoptive mother that sexually molested him all the years he was growing up. He should have been in a state hospital for life.
http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-executes-man-killing-dismembering-mom-174629855.html
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Just before he was put to death, Robert Henry Moormann used his last words to apologize to his family and to the family of an 8-year-old girl he kidnapped and molested in 1972.
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I know Kah. I'm an advocate of the death penalty for rapists and mo;esters, but this guy was screwed up in the head.
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I know Kah. I'm an advocate of the death penalty for rapists and mo;esters, but this guy was screwed up in the head.
I didn't hear any evidence to support this.
Being molested does not = insanity
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"Those are excuses attorneys try to dig up to save someone's life. It just costs the taxpayers more money," he said. "The man knew what he was doing. There was no doubt in my mind."
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I know what the legal definition of insanity is. But I am also looking at how he killed, dismembered her, and disposed of her. This guy was not a normal thinking person.
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well... NOW he sure isnt
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Nope, he's not. I also think Arizona screwed the pooch on his execution. I think someone in there somewhere sacrificed this guys life to make changes away from capitol punishment in the future.
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I know what the legal definition of insanity is. But I am also looking at how he killed, dismembered her, and disposed of her. This guy was not a normal thinking person.
The way in which he killed her and disposed her actually hurts his defense.
He was out on a furlough for only 3 days and killed her. He probably planned on killing her months ahead of time and then he was of sound enough mind to attempt to dispose of the evidence.
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Well certainly insane people are capable of planning events. That planning thing only comes into play when you are using a temporary insanity plea. You know, heat of the moment.
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So anyone who dismembers a person is insane? Lol OK
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Actually I named all 3 elements of what he did. Not just the dismemberment.
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Actually I named all 3 elements of what he did. Not just the dismemberment.
Well anyone who dismembers someone would
A) have to kill the person
and
B) more likely than not dispose of the body (unless they're crazy)
Sooooooooo what's your point?
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Let's keep the top of your head out of this. Anyway, I don't think you read the article and/or understood it very well. I guess it all seems like pretty ordinary behavior to you.
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Don't care if he's sane or not, world is a better place with him in the ground
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Maybe so DE, but if you start offing insane people it's a harder battle to keep the death penalty on the books.
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Death penalty needs to be revamped anyway, takes too long, costs too much, not enough assurance of guilt
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And when they do that they should go back to ropes and old sparky.
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Basically your only argument is that he is insane because he dismembered her.
Forget the fact that he most likely planned the murder for months ahead of time.
Forget the fact that he killed a person who he hated (and not a total stranger) which is extreme but logical
Forget the fact that he attempted to cover up the crime to avoid being punished.
^all actions of a sane person.
I think you are confusing insanity with, "he shouldn't have been executed because his mother deserved to be killed".
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Death Penalty is nothing more than revenge politics anyways.
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You are very wrong. You continue to think it only because he dismembered her.
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You are very wrong. You continue to think it only because he dismembered her.
Are you talking to yourself now? JFC
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How he killed her
The dismemberment
How he disposed of her
Three things. No one of which I think is enough. And possibly not two. But all three of them together begin to give me the idea this guy was very far from normal. And that is all I think I need. Death is pretty final.
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Death Penalty is nothing more than revenge politics anyways.
So?
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but the way he was treated as a child is test book of how most serial killers where raised... as sick and horrible his childhood was, he made the choice to abduct and rape an 8 year old then again to kill his mother and hack her in to pieces.
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far from normal.
not = insanity
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Reapist posted:
You are very wrong. You continue to think it only because he dismembered her.
Are you talking to yourself now? JFC
I know it's a very difficult concept for you little mind so I'll expand it a bit just for you.
You continue to think it only because he dismembered her that I think equates to his insanity.
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I know it's a very difficult concept for you little mind so I'll expand it a bit just for you.
You continue to think it only because he dismembered her that I think equates to his insanity.
Nothing about the other two factors give credence to an insanity defense.
But carry on, retarded opinions are your forte.
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You don't become a molester and a killer without being screwed up in the head.
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You don't become a molester and a killer without being screwed up in the head.
I completely agree with this. But I think he was worse.
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A society can be measured on how it treats its lowest members, Arizona and the United States fails once again.
I think we treat our politicians and CEOs fairly well, actually.
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Death Penalty is nothing more than revenge politics anyways.
So?
So its wrong.
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-Mithan- posted:
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Death Penalty is nothing more than revenge politics anyways.
So?
So its wrong.
No it's not. It might be against the ToS, but that's the only thing you're god of.
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A society can be measured on how it treats its lowest members, Arizona and the United States fails once again.
I think we treat our politicians and CEOs fairly well, actually.
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
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[blockquote]-Mithan- posted:
Death Penalty is nothing more than revenge politics anyways.
So?
So its wrong.
No it's not. It might be against the ToS, but that's the only thing you're god of.
[/blockquote] Actually, killing people is not in the TOS.
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Actually, killing people is not in the TOS.
It's not? It probably should be. Two-week ban, at least.
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Actually, killing people is not in the TOS.
It's not? It probably should be. Two-week ban, at least.
Its still wrong to kill people.
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Didn't know morality was absolute
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Didn't know morality was absolute
Again, you are wrong.
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Kah_v2 posted:
Basically your only argument is that he is insane because he dismembered her.
Forget the fact that he most likely planned the murder for months ahead of time.
Forget the fact that he killed a person who he hated (and not a total stranger) which is extreme but logical
Forget the fact that he attempted to cover up the crime to avoid being punished.
^all actions of a sane person.
No, none of those 3 are arguments against insanity, they can easily be characteristics of a murder committed by an insane person.
Haven't read up on the guy though, so I'm not saying whether he's insane or not.
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-Mithan- posted:
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Actually, killing people is not in the TOS.
It's not? It probably should be. Two-week ban, at least.
Its still wrong to kill people.
it's too bad the murderers didn't know this and nothing gets the point across like them facing their execution. As lonf as somebody learned something all is good in the world.
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I would not have executed this guy.
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so if executing a criminal is revenge politics... what is the killing of enemy soldiers in war whos only "crime" was being on the wrong side of an argument? ...justice?
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