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I wasn’t going to bring this drama here, but I know we have some good people here, and any advise would help
Ok here we go:
6 -7 years ago one of the moms in my son’s preschool class made a push to get the moms to be friends. Well, it worked. There are about 10 families now who are tight, and our kids play together, and the adults have all become pretty good friends.. We have done a lot of stuff together. My daughter actually helped in bringing us together.. We were all here for each other. She is not the one that spearheaded it, but she is one of the moms in the group. Ok that’s the background
What happened: Let’s call him oh.. Dave, and we will call her Sue
They have been having trouble. Nobody knew it, they kept it to themselves. He got her to go to therapy with him. He goes all the time, she went once I think. In the one session, she revealed that she has been having an affair with this guy she works with.. We will call him asshole. Dave did not leave.. he has tried to be supportive of her and their 4 kids. She would swap beds back and forth between Asshole and Dave. Dave tried his very best to keep the family together.. I know a lot of guys would of said eff this, I’m out of here.. and maybe he should have. He tried to keep the family together. I think there is something said for that as well.
Ok.. I asked how he was doing a couple of weeks ago.. he texted me back saying they were great, and her and asshole were done they were “getting back to normal†as he put it.
Well the rumors were that asshole left her. IMO I think she backed this up by trying to OD on pills. She is in the mental hospital and wants Dave not to be there, and keeps throwing him out of her room…. He keeps trying.. poor guy is a friggin wreck.
Now she says she is not going to leave unless asshole picks her up… Oh, and Asshole tried to take pills himself I gather
Should I go beat the living crap out of asshole? That won’t help…. But what does Dave do? I have no idea what to say to him
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Beat up Dave.
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The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
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Stay out of it. Don't get sucked into it. Be thankful that this is a bullet you can avoid. And yes, that means don't allow your wife to drag you or her into it.
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Don't get involved.
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The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
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Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
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File for divorce, get custody, and let her rot in there.
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dave sounds like an enabler
he needs to man up. accept the loss, and find a real woman to love
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Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
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Hawkson posted:
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Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
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Help Support Dave and 4 Kids. Sue needs to sort herself out; and Dave is the one who doesn't have the support. Asshole is only an Asshole in this instance if he knew about Dave, and decided to keep going. Even so, Sue is the person who instigated all of this and beating up Asshole really serves no purpose.
Unless of course Asshole was raping Sue, then there's other things going on there... but Sue needs help, Dave and 4 Kids really need help; Asshole needs to be removed from their lives.
So; Get Dave to get more help from the professionals he sees; and if you can, give Dave the personal help you can afford. Let Sue stew for a bit.
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I hopte this story ends with "Dave leaves her, gets full custody of the kids. Meanwhile Sue and asshole get together...and are never seen or heard from again..."
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Asshole knows about Dave
he is either married himself, or has a GF
and him trying to off himself had nothing to do with Sue (I think)
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AkagiyamaMissile posted:
Hawkson posted:
Caledric posted:
Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
This.
he is open about it
he is talking too whoever will listen
I will try not to give advice.. good call
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Kah_v2 posted:
Brandun posted:
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Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
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Asshole's not at fault here, it was Sue's idea to sleep with someone else. If not him it would've been some other dude.
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Stay out of it. Don't get sucked into it. Be thankful that this is a bullet you can avoid. And yes, that means don't allow your wife to drag you or her into it.
Good luck
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RavofMT posted:
dave sounds like an enabler
he needs to man up. accept the loss, and find a real woman to love
I think this as well, but don't want to tell him
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Tipztoe posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
Stay out of it. Don't get sucked into it. Be thankful that this is a bullet you can avoid. And yes, that means don't allow your wife to drag you or her into it.
Good luck
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you have a family to protect from profanityheads like those people.
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Keep yourself out of it... Just be there if Dave comes to you. Give no advice, just listen. That's the best thing you can do as a friend.
Yup, drama like this tends to spread and, before you know it, your family is involved too.
I also agree that beating up on Asshole isnt going to do anything. Yeah, he sounds like a piece of work, but he didnt force Sue to have an affair, she chose to do that. And if it wasnt him, it would have been some other guy.
If she's OD'ing to manipulate others that indicates that she may have some kind of personality disorder going on, so she's really in the right place right now.
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Stay the hell out of it.
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Wall of text edited out.
Dave is going to screw up his life and his kids life's because he is "in love with her" still.
The best thing here would have been her dying and them moving on.
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-Mithan- posted:
Wall of text edited out.
Dave is going to screw up his life and his kids life's because he is "in love with her" still.
The best thing here would have been her dying and them moving on.
I read your original post
it was awesome
great post Mithan
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Asshole's not at fault here, it was Sue's idea to sleep with someone else. If not him it would've been some other dude.
this resulted in working together for 10 years....
He knew she was married and had 4 kids
he is indeed one big asshole
he effed up too
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buy this Dave pussy a set of balls and tell him to man up!!!
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Dave needs to grow a pair of balls, divorce the cheating, crazy bitch, get sole custody of the kids and find a new woman that will appreciate him.
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My two cents...
Encourage Dave to continue to see his therapist. YOU cannot save him from his poor decision making, but maybe a professional can help him see better options for his kids as well as himself.
Allow the hospital and other professionals to take care of Sue, her issues and her demands. Her life choices are none of your business. You do, however, retain the right to NOT have your family involved with her.
Hope that Dave does not let someone in this mental state back to the house with kids, but that is out of your control.
Not sure why you want to beat up A-hole. Sue is the one who was your friend and turned out not to be the person you thought she was. I think you can be mad/disappointed with her...but please don't say A-hole "knew she was married with 4 kids" because that is irrelevant. SUE knew she was married with 4 kids...she is the one who took the action (repeatedly) that is problematic.
You are a good friend. Be there if he needs something reasonable (help with the kids from soccer practice, etc.) but any attempts to draw you or Donna into the drama should be met with, "I think that is an excellent question for a professional."
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Thanks n00b
good advice
yeah, she asked one of the other moms (I call them the soccer moms) if she could come stay at her house
she said she didn't think it was a good idea
good call I say
and no, I am not going to go kick aholes ass.. even though I would like too
Yeah, ive got my own family to worry about
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Still don't see how asshole deserves it more than the woman who cheated....
He's just sleeping with somebody. She's betraying and ruining her entire family.
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What would jesus do?
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What would jesus do?
go in a cave and come out 3 days later?
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My advice: Get the kids out of there. They don't need the drama, don't need to see what was once the Mom and Dad relationship melt down into complete chaos even further than it already has. speak with your peers and see if as a collective you all can begin baby sitting them, and keeping them until their parent's home life can clear up some, no matter what that clarity ends up resembling. They don't need to see how that sausage gets made. Plus it will let mom and dad figure themselves out.
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Stay out of it for sure. Don't give him advice or anything. Just be there for your friend. But not her. Unless you approve of her conduct. If you don't, which I suspect is the case from what I've seen of you here, she does not deserve your friendship.
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Dave's wife is a stupid bitch. Dave sounds like a spineless enabler. They're both cockbags for allowing their kids to be in the middle of this situation in the first place.
I would take Dave out and get him drunk and laid...maybe he'll rediscover self-esteem, then. Then hopefully he'll divorce the c***. If bitchtits offs herself, the world is a better place for it and maybe his kids have a chance of growing up normal.
Asshole is a loser nobody, better to just ignore him. Dave's wife is the source of all this madness.
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Dang... yeah I would stay away from that one, crazy drama though..
But yeah if I were Dave I would really just say **** that to her and work on doing his best at becoming a single dad and get a good divorce lawyer because there's no way a court could be dumb enough to actually reward her custody
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pick her up from the hospital yourself and then drop her off at the bus station.
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My advice: Get the kids out of there. They don't need the drama, don't need to see what was once the Mom and Dad relationship melt down into complete chaos even further than it already has. speak with your peers and see if as a collective you all can begin baby sitting them, and keeping them until their parent's home life can clear up some, no matter what that clarity ends up resembling. They don't need to see how that sausage gets made. Plus it will let mom and dad figure themselves out.
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Is there a way to get the kids into the hands of parental figures that aren't colossal douchebags who care more about themselves than they do the kids?
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Brandun posted:
Second_Chance posted:
My advice: Get the kids out of there. They don't need the drama, don't need to see what was once the Mom and Dad relationship melt down into complete chaos even further than it already has. speak with your peers and see if as a collective you all can begin baby sitting them, and keeping them until their parent's home life can clear up some, no matter what that clarity ends up resembling. They don't need to see how that sausage gets made. Plus it will let mom and dad figure themselves out.
GREAT IDEA
If you do something like this, send them to ONE home, do not shuffle them around from one place to another. Their life is sh*t enough already without being made a to feel special needs.
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pick her up from the hospital yourself and then drop her off at the bus station.
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The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
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its already been said but she needs to be c*** punched and kicked to the curb and dave needs to get the kids away from her and with her in a mental hospital it does wonders for his case
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tillsb posted:
Reapist posted:
The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
Don't people read the OP?
the kids, and families all have a long term relationship. Walking away from this/expelling the family because of their problems especially when kids are involved sends the wrong message to everyone else in your circle of friendships and between parents/kids.
I think its great that they have friends like you who DON'T run away from problems to this degree.
Stay supporting this guy, but be very clear that if he continues to fuel the fire, you (and others) can no longer help him.
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Dave's just as mental as her IMO.
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/take pills
problem solved.
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wow.
what a train wreck.
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RavofMT posted:
tillsb posted:
Reapist posted:
The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
Don't people read the OP?
the kids, and families all have a long term relationship. Walking away from this/expelling the family because of their problems especially when kids are involved sends the wrong message to everyone else in your circle of friendships and between parents/kids.
I think its great that they have friends like you who DON'T run away from problems to this degree.
Stay supporting this guy, but be very clear that if he continues to fuel the fire, you (and others) can no longer help him.
Not getting involved is NOT the same as walking away. You can support the father and the kids by being there for them, but going to deal with the asshole, trying to deal with the wife etc is getting involved and that isnt going to help anyone.
Does that help clarify the difference?
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on the plus side you could probably knock boots with sue she sounds like she will put out to any one and daves to much of a pussy to do anything about it
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Aerlinthian posted:
Stay out of it. Don't get sucked into it. Be thankful that this is a bullet you can avoid. And yes, that means don't allow your wife to drag you or her into it.
Good luck
This.
Also, Dave has little or nothing to lose by trying to keep the family together. In a divorce, the wife will get the kids, the house, and pretty much everything Dave makes until those kids are 18... so... what has he got to lose except a piece of ass, which it doesn't sound like he's been getting anyway...
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_sooz_ posted:
RavofMT posted:
tillsb posted:
[quote=Reapist]The best advise is to stay as far out of it as you can.
Don't people read the OP?
the kids, and families all have a long term relationship. Walking away from this/expelling the family because of their problems especially when kids are involved sends the wrong message to everyone else in your circle of friendships and between parents/kids.
I think its great that they have friends like you who DON'T run away from problems to this degree.
Stay supporting this guy, but be very clear that if he continues to fuel the fire, you (and others) can no longer help him.
Not getting involved is NOT the same as walking away. You can support the father and the kids by being there for them, but going to deal with the asshole, trying to deal with the wife etc is getting involved and that isnt going to help anyone.
Does that help clarify the difference?[/quote]
Obviously dealing with the asshole/wife is a moot point.
And I'm not sure what you have read of my posts that would require you to 'clarify' the difference.
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I know this should be obvious but do not get Dave drunk where he is able to in any way break his wedding vows. If he hasn't done anything wrong, he can file for divorce and likely get primary (if not full) custody of their children. If he starts going out drinking, acting crazy, becoming an adulterer, he will lose ground and sympathy from a court. This will be important, especially if he's the primary bread winner and she comes for half his retirement.
Dude better get his head screwed on straight with a quickness.
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Keep asshole away from your wife.
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arrange for the "wife" to have an accident where she perishes from this cruel world. ensure dave takes out a fat life insurance policy, they probably wont cover suicides so might think easy money if she ODs herself again. then said "accident" happens. hes sad for a little while but the money will sooth all worries in time especially since hes way better off without the whore anyway. find a new woman.
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I would make a point of making yourself available to help with the kids to the extent that it will not be a burden to you.
Aside from that I would just be available as a sounding board for the guy. Getting more involved than that will more than likely lead to unwelcome drama.
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Dave's just as mental as her IMO.
How so?
He seems to be the one trying...
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Immortal_Haze posted:
Dave's just as mental as her IMO.
How so?
He seems to be the one trying...
He's staying in the situation. What are the kids learning when mom comes home from getting pounded by her boyfriend and dad is pissed off/hurt trying to hide it? Telling me that he's able to insulate them from the situation? His heart may be in the right place (keeping the family together), but my (likely dumb lol) opinion is the situation is impacting his children more than him taking them out of the situation would.
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I'm not going to... but It would almost be a good idea to send him a link of this thread
he might hate it, but it might do him so good in the long run
Not going to do it though....
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I'm not gonna fault him for trying to keep the family together. That's a noble thing and it's at the expense of his own happiness, trust and (for lack of a better phrase) sense of masculinity. But there's kids involved and he should REALLY sit down and think about whether a family with a cheating whore wife that's already tried to off herself and is in the looney bin is REALLY the best environment for them.
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Dave is going to screw up his life and his kids life's because he is "in love with her" still.
The best thing here would have been her dying and them moving on.
This here.
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lets hope those 4 kids aren't his LOL dave hopefully will learn his lesson after this.
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Itab posted:
-Mithan- posted:
Wall of text edited out.
Dave is going to screw up his life and his kids life's because he is "in love with her" still.
The best thing here would have been her dying and them moving on.
This here.
his original post was fantastic
wish it was still there
I was going to quote it, tweak it for privacy, and send it to him...
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oh, and a sincere thanks to everyone for some great insight
ACF rocks
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I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
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I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
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Fallen_daemon posted:
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I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
LOL FD you win
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I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
We all know you don't have kids yet but this reply just proved it. Even if he did find out that none of them were biologically his, I am willing to bet he would still love them all the same. Being a sperm donor and actually being a father are not the same thing.
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Sarena_WE posted:
Fallen_daemon posted:
Sarena_WE posted:
I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
We all know you don't have kids yet but this reply just proved it. Even if he did find out that none of them were biologically his, I am willing to bet he would still love them all the same. Being a sperm donor and actually being a father are not the same thing.
I'm not even a dad (well, technically...maybe I am) yet and I get it!
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what have yall decided on brandon? you and the wife have to put up a unified front.
just going to listen I think
not sure yet....
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Be an open ear and a shut mouth for your buddy and mind you own business. You don't know the full story and almost certainly never will. You've entered the land of wtf and your assumptions and deductions, no matter how reasonable or logical, will serve no purpose than to bend you over and slam you with a 12" black rubber .
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RavofMT posted:
dave sounds like an enabler
he needs to man up. accept the loss, and find a real woman to love
yes, then beat up dave to help set whatever crossed wires he has straight
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deadcactus posted:
Be an open ear and a shut mouth for your buddy and mind you own business. You don't know the full story and almost certainly never will. You've entered the land of wtf and your assumptions and deductions, no matter how reasonable or logical, will serve no purpose than to bend you over and slam you with a 12" black rubber .
frankly, I agree. there are two sides to every story and though it looks bad, you're only hearing his right now. support your friend, offer to babysit his kids if he needs a break, but otherwise, MYOB.
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"Trying to keep the family Together' doesn't make sense. Trying to keep his kids does. There is absolutely zero chance that them getting back together would last or be a happy situation for anyone. And I am a knight in shining armor kind of a dreamer and yet I know there is zero hope here.
She won't SUDDENLY decides she loves him again. The closest she will come to that is when she realizes Asshole doesn't want her anymore so she will come skulking back until she feels secure enough to leave again.
I wonder if Dave can talk to a lawyer about getting primary care of the kids with supervised visitation right for his wife. She shouldn't be allowed with the kids unsupervised. And I am not even talking about her hurting them physically. She might be a decent mom who would never hurt her kids... but the emotional toll on them will be unacceptable. She is too unstable to be with the kids imo.
I guess step 1 should be a legal separation.
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You've already gotten a lot of the same advice I would've given. Be there for your buddy and urge him to do whatever he can to a) keep his kids safe, and b) maintain custody of them since she is mentally unstable.
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will serve no purpose than to bend you over and slam you with a 12" black rubber .
I wonder if that's what ahole did to her. Then he left her.
Maybe dave should invest in one.
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Beat up Dave.
This.
She doesn't want him, he needs to wake tfu.
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I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
We all know you don't have kids yet but this reply just proved it. Even if he did find out that none of them were biologically his, I am willing to bet he would still love them all the same. Being a sperm donor and actually being a father are not the same thing.
at the end of the day, biology rules and only fools who think being the "father" to some one else kids rules lol. love how modern day bs rules. in the olden days if you find out those kids aren't yours you could probably legally kill the kids and the wife without evening batting a eye.
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at the end of the day, biology rules and only fools who think being the "father" to some one else kids rules lol. love how modern day bs rules. in the olden days if you find out those kids aren't yours you could probably legally kill the kids and the wife without evening batting a eye.
WTF is wrong with you?!?! Caring about a child doesn't have a damn thing to do with biology.
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Lynea posted:
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at the end of the day, biology rules and only fools who think being the "father" to some one else kids rules lol. love how modern day bs rules. in the olden days if you find out those kids aren't yours you could probably legally kill the kids and the wife without evening batting a eye.
WTF is wrong with you?!?! Caring about a child doesn't have a damn thing to do with biology.
wtf is wrong with you trying to fool men in taking care of spawn that isn't theirs LOL. i'm sure the bible and the koran has something to say about that.
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Why beat up asshole? Why does he get all the blame? It takes two people to have an affair...
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Why beat up asshole? Why does he get all the blame? It takes two people to have an affair...
can't really blame any other guy for this problem. in reality most guys like free sex if dumb !@@# is giving it for free and is cheating on her husband  can't blame him for being a player.
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Oh he's an asshole, I wont deny that. Its one thing to screw a married person. Its another thing to be the one in a marriage that knowingly cheats. Sounds like sue is a stupid bitch. If anyone needs to get beat up its her.
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Oh he's an asshole, I wont deny that. Its one thing to screw a married person. Its another thing to be the one in a marriage that knowingly cheats. Sounds like sue is a stupid bitch. If anyone needs to get beat up its her.
they should of just let her die. he would of been much better off. the dude lol too stupid to realize.
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Oh he's an asshole, I wont deny that. Its one thing to screw a married person. Its another thing to be the one in a marriage that knowingly cheats. Sounds like sue is a stupid bitch. If anyone needs to get beat up its her.
This is what I was thinking. "Beat up asshole" as your first thought is both putting the blame, partly or mostly, in the wrong hands and degrading to women.
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Fallen_daemon posted:
Kordirn posted:
Why beat up asshole? Why does he get all the blame? It takes two people to have an affair...
can't really blame any other guy
SURE you can!
Beating anybody's ass is as simple as rationalizing the why. this one is easy.
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Dave better lawyer up ASAP or he'll lose more than just his wife. Sounds like she would be the type to get the kids out of pure venomous spite.
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You can also let Dave know that his kids are welcome to visit/play/interact with yours and your family whenever he thinks that would be good/helpful. That may be a way of providing some support to him as he wrestles with what he needs to do. They are the reason this whole thing started in the first place.
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Dave better lawyer up ASAP or he'll lose more than just his wife. Sounds like she would be the type to get the kids out of pure venomous spite.
doubtful after a trip to the mental hospital was on the books for drug abuse. Lawyers are always good to have tho in those situations.
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You can also let Dave know that his kids are welcome to visit/play/interact with yours and your family whenever he thinks that would be good/helpful. That may be a way of providing some support to him as he wrestles with what he needs to do. They are the reason this whole thing started in the first place.
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Wow, that's cold. I hope nobody every tells those kids anything along those lines.
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myxomatosis8 posted:
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You can also let Dave know that his kids are welcome to visit/play/interact with yours and your family whenever he thinks that would be good/helpful. That may be a way of providing some support to him as he wrestles with what he needs to do. They are the reason this whole thing started in the first place.
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Wow, that's cold. I hope nobody every tells those kids anything along those lines.
Uhm, I meant that their kids are the reason they became friends.
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I took it as the reason Dave is even fighting this
in both cases, you would be right Rho
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Fallen_daemon posted:
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[quote=Sarena_WE]I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
We all know you don't have kids yet but this reply just proved it. Even if he did find out that none of them were biologically his, I am willing to bet he would still love them all the same. Being a sperm donor and actually being a father are not the same thing.
at the end of the day, biology rules and only fools who think being the "father" to some one else kids rules lol. love how modern day bs rules. in the olden days if you find out those kids aren't yours you could probably legally kill the kids and the wife without evening batting a eye. [/quote]
I hope you're trolling
I really do
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with everything stated above, I guess I am worried he is going to keep on fighting until he has a nervous breakdown
like stated that isn't good for anyone
especially the kids
I wish he could remove himself from the situation and take a cold hard look
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Brandun posted:
Fallen_daemon posted:
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[quote=Fallen_daemon][quote=Sarena_WE]I'd be most worried about the welfare of the kids. Sounds like she is seriously a whack-job and could pull a Susan Smith.
then he would be scott free to do what ever he wants, no kids(if she cheated i'm sure some of them aren't his if not all)
We all know you don't have kids yet but this reply just proved it. Even if he did find out that none of them were biologically his, I am willing to bet he would still love them all the same. Being a sperm donor and actually being a father are not the same thing.
at the end of the day, biology rules and only fools who think being the "father" to some one else kids rules lol. love how modern day bs rules. in the olden days if you find out those kids aren't yours you could probably legally kill the kids and the wife without evening batting a eye. [/quote]
I hope you're trolling
I really do [/quote]
He's not. He comes from a 3rd world country that hates women and limits the amount of kids you can have.
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