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http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2012/02/29/house-democrats-have-left-the-iowa-capitol-in-protest-in-an-undisclosed-location/
Iowa House Democrats this morning left the Capitol in protest of two gun bills the Republican majority had planned to debate today that critics contend would make the state part of the “Wild, Wild West.â€
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy accused House Leader Linda Upmeyer of failing to properly inform legislators about planned debate today on the bills. The short notice hindered Democrats from offering amendments to improve the bills, McCarthy said.
But Upmeyer, R-Garner, shot back this morning that Democrats did have adequate warning, and suggested their flight from the Capitol was an attempt to make a political scene.
“Iowans didn’t send us down here just to do easy stuff,†she said. “The Second Amendment is a question that many Iowans would like placed before them. I don’t know why they’re afraid to have a debate on a subject just because they don’t like the subject. That seems ludicrous to me.â€
One bill would alter the state constitution to specifically include gun rights. Another would rewrite the law on “reasonable force†so that a person may use force — including deadly force — against someone who they believe threatens to kill or cause serious injury or who is committing a violent felony.
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Nobody cares about Iowa. You cant really blame Iowa Democrats for feeling the same way. I've been to Iowa. Leaving is a good sign of intelligence.
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The West wasn't really wild. 
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Scarne posted:
The West wasn't really wild.
This, the worst violence during that time was in cities where the law disarmed the public
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This thread makes me sad.
I am sad that the Iowa Democrats aren't manning up and doing the jobs they were elected to do and are instead wasting the time and money of the citizens of Iowa by fleeing the state.
I am sad that the Iowa Repubes are wasting the time and money of Iowa citizens with stupid gun bills SINCE GUNS ARE ALREADY FUCKING LEGAL.
Just plain sad. 
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Scarne posted:
The West wasn't really wild.
This, the worst violence during that time was in cities where the law disarmed the public.
My source for this nugget is the movie "Tombstone"
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"Shall not infringe"
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Aerlinthian posted:
"Shall not infringe"
Shall misquote
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Ashmaele posted:
This thread makes me sad.
I am sad that the Iowa Democrats aren't manning up and doing the jobs they were elected to do and are instead wasting the time and money of the citizens of Iowa by fleeing the state.
I am sad that the Iowa Repubes are wasting the time and money of Iowa citizens with stupid gun bills SINCE GUNS ARE ALREADY FUCKING LEGAL.
Just plain sad.
Guns are legal. It's their use that is being debated.
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And it's stupid and a waste of time, money and resources to even be debating it. It's election year pandering to the NRA because these dumbasses have to show the NRA that they're severely pro-gun for the NRA to release campaign money to them.
And there are about a million less stupid problems likely facing Iowa other than the fact that it is not (yet) legal to walk around downtown Des Moines with an uzi strapped to one's balls.
But let's ignore all of that and concentrate solely on the Dems for their procedural move (which I agree is also stupid).
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It is clear that most Democrats get their history from Hollywood; and not the history channel.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
It is clear that most Democrats get their history from Hollywood; and not the history channel.
What's less clear is where most Republicans get their English from.
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Is this about the time they fled in Oklahoma and Willie Nelson sent them red bandanas to bond as outlaws?
Or is this the time they fled from Texas?
Oh, a NEW event of them fleeing their duties while getting paid. Got it.
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Ashmaele posted:
And it's stupid and a waste of time, money and resources to even be debating it. It's election year pandering to the NRA because these dumbasses have to show the NRA that they're severely pro-gun for the NRA to release campaign money to them.
And there are about a million less stupid problems likely facing Iowa other than the fact that it is not (yet) legal to walk around downtown Des Moines with an uzi strapped to one's balls.
But let's ignore all of that and concentrate solely on the Dems for their procedural move (which I agree is also stupid).
Not getting thrown in prison forever for defending yourself is a pretty big deal.
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cabbyman posted:
Ashmaele posted:
And it's stupid and a waste of time, money and resources to even be debating it. It's election year pandering to the NRA because these dumbasses have to show the NRA that they're severely pro-gun for the NRA to release campaign money to them.
And there are about a million less stupid problems likely facing Iowa other than the fact that it is not (yet) legal to walk around downtown Des Moines with an uzi strapped to one's balls.
But let's ignore all of that and concentrate solely on the Dems for their procedural move (which I agree is also stupid).
Not getting thrown in prison forever for defending yourself is a pretty big deal.
Fortunately that isn't happening but hey, let's make a law preventing it anyway, just in case! 
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They should be compelled to return, with the state patrol given instructions to escort them back to the capital. If they leave the state, then any government provided compensation/benefits should be immediately frozen. Upon their return they should receive no compensation for the time period they were derelict in their duties.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
It is clear that most Democrats get their history from Hollywood; and not the history channel.
Actually I'm totally OK with that.
Hollywood puts out things like Mythbusters.
The "History" Channel?
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Give them a 24-hour notice to return and then fire them all and hold elections to replace them.
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Give them a 24-hour notice to return and then fire them all and hold elections to replace them.
Fair enough, as long as an IQ test can be administered to reptards and a minimum score of 20 be reached to remain an elected official. Which would pretty much mean no more elected reptards.
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Give them a 24-hour notice to return and then fire them all and hold elections to replace them.
I would support this and this would go for any idiot that tries and hold a town, county, state, or the country hostage.
Its one of the few things I supported Reagan for when he fired all the air traffic controllers.
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“Iowans didn’t send us down here just to do easy stuff,†she said. “The Second Amendment is a question that many Iowans would like placed before them. I don’t know why they’re afraid to have a debate on a subject just because they don’t like the subject. That seems ludicrous to me.â€
*raises hand* I have a question for the teacher.
Since when is the Second Amendment a question?
Why does she want to place this second amendment question before Iowans? Since she was giving an interview, couldn't she just have asked the report to pose her question to Iowans?
What can you expect though, this is a politician. How can you possibly expect them to communicate effectively.
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Apparently Iowa Repube politicians think that the Second Amendment only applies to the other 49 states AND BY GOD THEY ARE GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
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