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Living in the sticks of RI, I don't even think I've ever seen a gang member in the flesh

have you interacted with any?

any patrol your neighborhood?

been in one?




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NOPE 4 TIMES. Not that I haven't been around them though.

 

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Working where I did, I had close contact with every major street and prison gang in California.

Growing up in Fresno I had to deal with a few gangs when I was a kid.

 

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Seen them a lot where I came from and have seen a few over here in California. Never been messed with though

 

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Had to deal with them a bit growing up (lived in a very latino area of WA) but nothing too serious. They mostly just beat each other up all the time.

 

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Knew a ton of them growing up in S Tacoma. They'd do drive-bys on the house next door (which was a crackhouse). Went to school with lots of them.

Was never in one, got asked a couple of times. They were always cool with me but I steered largely clear.

 

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I have about 6 gang members who work for me.

 

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yeah, but i got kicked out because i couldnt get the finger-snapping right

 

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Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians

 

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Achim_LC posted:


Working where I did, I had close contact with every major street and prison gang in California.

Growing up in Fresno I had to deal with a few gangs when I was a kid.




Didn't know you grew up in Fresno. When did you leave?

I grew up in Madera/Fresno but am still here.

 

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the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians


Tons of farm workers man.

 

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the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians


It ain't Compton, but there are some pretty terrible areas. A month after we moved out of the 'hood someone dumped a bullet-riddled body in the alley behind our house. It was that kind of place.

 

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Also, you stay the fk away from Rainier Ave in S Seattle.

 

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the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians



I'm only hardcore on film

 

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TickyAtack posted:
the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians



I'm only hardcored in the anus

 

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Yeah I was there with Tookie when we put together the Crips.

 

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TickyAtack posted:
the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians



I'm only in hardcore films

 

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there were white versions of the well know gangs growing up.

bloods and crips in the sticks...they thought they were cool until they came across some REAL gang bangers. laugh
one of them literally pissed his pants laugh

now at work i deal with them all the time.
DC Blacks are trickling in along with some hispanic gangs...tension is high at work right now.

 

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TickyAtack posted:
the_great_ontex posted:
Jesus, washington is rough. Its no wonder Ticky is so hardcore now. I always thought the only foreigner kind of guys you see up there would be Canadians



I'm only hardcore on film



raised_brow I am starting to like you even more and more. Ever thought about being with the fat twin of a twinset?

 

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Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.

 

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No, No, Yes, Yes


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Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.


I remember some guy said that to me and my gang once. We may have lost the argument, but we set his head on fire with gasoline.

 

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I once had a a bisexual girlfriend in junior high who claimed to be a latin queen. She was cute and seemed totally harmless though.

I have some other stories too but none of you would ever believe me. In fact, none of you probably believe that I ever had a cute bisexual girlfriend.

 

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-Mithan- posted:
Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.


It's funny that we glorify Vikings and other killers of the past yet consider Gang Members to be scum in every way.

In some ways the gang mentality is just a modern day warrior code/tribe. Many of them really do not fear death or injury at all.

 

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levgre posted:
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Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.


It's funny that we glorify Vikings and other killers of the past yet consider Gang Members to be scum in every way.

In some ways the gang mentality is just a modern day warrior code/tribe. Many of them really do not fear death or injury at all.

Who said I glorify Vikings? They are crap, just like pretty much every army that ever existed, raping people, stealing from them and killing as they wanted too.

Ya, I really want to "glorify" them.

 

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I am still in one, watch yourself!


 

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Vikings amassed great wealth and power though, they put fear into the hearts of Kingdoms and started their own Kingdoms on the backs of their conquests.

as soon as a gang does anything that cool, page me. Fax me.

 

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-Mithan- posted:
Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.



yep i agree if you cant solve your problem your self you don't get 5 of your friends to "handle it".

 

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Vikings amassed great wealth and power though, they put fear into the hearts of Kingdoms and started their own Kingdoms on the backs of their conquests.

as soon as a gang does anything that cool, page me. Fax me.


Not sure if you know the size/wealth of some of the gang networks, or how much pressure they put on countries, with just relatively few people.

 

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Yeah I know that, but they aren't demanding tribute from nations, they aren't militarily threatening nations, they aren't starting their own nations.

 

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there were white versions of the well know gangs growing up.

bloods and crips in the sticks...they thought they were cool until they came across some REAL gang bangers. laugh
one of them literally pissed his pants laugh

now at work i deal with them all the time.
DC Blacks are trickling in along with some hispanic gangs...tension is high at work right now.


where do you work??


 

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Brandun posted:
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there were white versions of the well know gangs growing up.

bloods and crips in the sticks...they thought they were cool until they came across some REAL gang bangers. laugh
one of them literally pissed his pants laugh

now at work i deal with them all the time.
DC Blacks are trickling in along with some hispanic gangs...tension is high at work right now.


where do you work??




He works as a security guard at a Jail if I recall correctly.

 

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that sounds like a cool job

 

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i'm a senior officer in a gang/club


that's all i can say

 

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Yeah I know that, but they aren't demanding tribute from nations, they aren't militarily threatening nations, they aren't starting their own nations.


and yet you claimed to date a Latin queen...

 

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I grew up in the 'burbs. We didn't have gangs. We had rednecks, surfers, and yuppies.

 

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Yeah for like 2 weeks in jr high. I think they're their own nation in the same way Afrika Baambaata and the Zulu Nation are their own Nation...i.e. not at all

 

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I grew up in a rural area outside Sacramento, CA, as a middle-class Caucasian. The only thing I heard about gangs was news from New York or L.A. Oh, and I saw the movie "The Warriors" so of course I have some prejudices built in now.

 

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there were white versions of the well know gangs growing up.

bloods and crips in the sticks...they thought they were cool until they came across some REAL gang bangers. laugh
one of them literally pissed his pants laugh

now at work i deal with them all the time.
DC Blacks are trickling in along with some hispanic gangs...tension is high at work right now.


I'll trade you bloods and crips for LAW/AN/LKQN

 

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I drank 40s with some Latin Kings years ago.

 

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Yeah for like 2 weeks in jr high. I think they're their own nation in the same way Afrika Baambaata and the Zulu Nation are their own Nation...i.e. not at all


They have territory they protect with a vengence, they have a hierachy that rules them, they are politically influencial, and they are militant... sounds like a nation to me. They are just as recognized as a nation as many of the viking "nations" were.

 

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This is acf, everyone makes tons of money and grew up in shtty neighborhoods.

 

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Subject: Gangs... have you ever been in one, beat up by one, did business with, or beat one up?
the vikings never had any nations, they did have kingdoms...and kingdoms were the precursors to nations...

so you're wrong here based on your definition of nation. No gang has a nation (that I'm aware of) and no vikings ever had a nation.

 

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the vikings never had any nations, they did have kingdoms...and kingdoms were the precursors to nations...

so you're wrong here based on your definition of nation. No gang has a nation (that I'm aware of) and no vikings ever had a nation.


You do realize that a Kingdom and a Nation are the same thing right?

 

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No, I don't. They're not.

 

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Working where I did, I had close contact with every major street and prison gang in California.

Growing up in Fresno I had to deal with a few gangs when I was a kid.




Didn't know you grew up in Fresno. When did you leave?

I grew up in Madera/Fresno but am still here.


I left in 87 when I was in High School.



 

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I think I saw a gang member once.

 

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This is what a lot of the duplexes near my job look like on the outside because landlords get tired of matching coverup paint.

 

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Never been in a gang, but there were gangs in my neighborhood growing up and at my high school. I generally tried to avoid gangbangers, I personally think they are crap.

 

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i grew up in the slums of long beach

lots of blacks where i grew up

what do you think

 

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Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.



yep i agree if you cant solve your problem your self you don't get 5 of your friends to "handle it".


I don't really get this, most gang members do not shy away from a fight, and generally they are a lot braver than your typical person. They train themselves to not fear knives or guns, and to keep fighting after being stabbed/shot.

 

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I grew up neighboring a really bad area, so there were kids in my school that claimed to be gang members, no idea if they really were.

 

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I don't really get this, most gang members do not shy away from a fight, and generally they are a lot braver than your typical person. They train themselves to not fear knives or guns, and to keep fighting after being stabbed/shot.


Train themselves? Is your boyfriend a Crip or something? They're just kids with crappy lives and no reason to hope or believe that anything better than death is coming to them for the rest of their short lives. They're not brave, they're hopeless pawns in someone else's game...

 

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No, I have not.

 

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They're just kids with crappy lives and no reason to hope or believe that anything better than death is coming to them for the rest of their short lives... they're hopeless pawns in someone else's game...


I wasn't refuting any of this.

It takes bravery to go into a knife fight, take a stab wound, and keep going as normal. They actually do train/prepare themselves to be ready for those first fights, so you can't really deny that at all. Of course in prison the training is more intense.

Nice that you resort to dumb gay slights though. Pretty low brow, same humor those 'kids' would use.

 

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levgre posted:
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They're just kids with crappy lives and no reason to hope or believe that anything better than death is coming to them for the rest of their short lives... they're hopeless pawns in someone else's game...


I wasn't refuting any of this.

It takes bravery to go into a knife fight, take a stab wound, and keep going as normal. They actually do train/prepare themselves to be ready for those first fights, so you can't really deny that at all. Of course in prison the training is more intense.


They always explained it as that these kids that join gangs are brought in with the feeling that they're joining a family, which many of them have lacked in their lives so far. When you think about it in the context of the love of a brother, their fierce loyalty makes much more sense. I don't think its so much that they train to deal with pain and fear, as much as it is desensitized by living around it their whole lives.

 

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Well even if you see people get shot/stabbed such in the neighborhood, that on its own doesn't do away with the fear of yourself being killed/wounded in combat. You need to prepare for that separately. Although the violent upbringing would help you deal with the aftermath (friends/family dying, not caring that you took a life, etc.).

In some gangs there is a strong sense of brotherhood, in others it is not promoted as much, and greed and competition is strong between members. It's more about getting to the top so you get more money and risk your life less.

(my source is watching lots of Gangland episodes and similar shows)

 

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they gave us guns and drugs
than they wonder why we so dangerous.

shhh

 

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levgre posted:
jonus156 posted:
-Mithan- posted:
Human Trash sums up my feelings on "gang members".

Anybody who has to resort to violence to try and win an argument is a piece of crap and still loses the argument.



yep i agree if you cant solve your problem your self you don't get 5 of your friends to "handle it".


I don't really get this, most gang members do not shy away from a fight, and generally they are a lot braver than your typical person. They train themselves to not fear knives or guns, and to keep fighting after being stabbed/shot.


Honestly in my experience gang members generally fight in giant ridiculous packs of dudes. They fight like total pussies. 10 guys swarming one guy who looked at one of em funny, and then going back home talking about how badass they were.

 

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No. I'm not an idiot.

 

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most gang members do not shy away from a fight, and generally they are a lot braver than your typical person. They train themselves to not fear knives or guns, and to keep fighting after being stabbed/shot.


LMFAO! laugh


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One of my best friends bought a biker bar. I hung out there a lot. It was the primary bar for the home chapter of the Bandidos. Crazy stuff happened almost all the time. That is about all I will say.

 

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It's true. When I was in the gang, we wasn't scared of nuthin. Now that I'm out of the gang, I am scared of my shadow.

 

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Well even if you see people get shot/stabbed such in the neighborhood, that on its own doesn't do away with the fear of yourself being killed/wounded in combat. You need to prepare for that separately. Although the violent upbringing would help you deal with the aftermath (friends/family dying, not caring that you took a life, etc.).

In some gangs there is a strong sense of brotherhood, in others it is not promoted as much, and greed and competition is strong between members. It's more about getting to the top so you get more money and risk your life less.

(my source is watching lots of Gangland episodes and similar shows)


Wow... thank you for showing me that everything I've learned at the seminars my job made me goto on Gangs, Gang activity, and Gang mentality was wrong. I'm going to go in and talk to them today and have them bring you in to talk. I mean obviously you with your watching of Gangland have way more knowledge and experience than the guy we have now. He's only spent 35 years researching, dealing with, and investigating gangs.

 

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We had a (small town, affiliated with the red bloods or whatever the name of them is/was) gang headquartered next door to my house as a kid. Never going to forget the SWAT team surrounding it as my mom and I left for a softball tournament that I was in. Took my parents four years to get that house sold. plain

 

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I paid a gang to watch my double parked rented Lincoln Continental in Harlem where I had a project there once, gack in the 1980's..

I gave them $10/day with the proviso that I would give them $50 on Friday, since I knew I was leaving Thursday night

So back in DC as I was doing my expense report, I put $40 down as "valet parking", and got reimbursed.

 

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