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What was the big bang anyways like a giant space popcorn kernel that axploded and shot light everywhere? And if there was light right after the Big Bang, HOW COME THE BIBLE KNEW THIS BEFORE SCIENCE WAS EVEN INVENTED!?
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Oprah created light.
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In our section of the universe there was no light before hand. And I am not convinced everything will fall back in upon itself. I've seen a lot of sparks in machine shops and the steel mill. I have a feeling everything will just spread out and die out. But since the universe has no time it is a very slow process from out perspective. Surprise surprise, there is also a black hole at the center of each galaxy. But this contradicts the belief by scientists that black holes draw everything in because the galaxies are expanding too. I think the singularities give birth to more stars and planets.
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1: 3, And God asaid, Let there be blight: and there was light.
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1: 3, And Obama said, Let there be blight: and there was light.
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1: 3, And God asaid, Let there be blight: and there was a huge really bad famine that followed the blight because he is after all the Lord and when he says let there be blight he mean binness!.
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In our section of the universe there was no light before hand. And I am not convinced everything will fall back in upon itself. I've seen a lot of sparks in machine shops and the steel mill. I have a feeling everything will just spread out and die out. But since the universe has no time it is a very slow process from out perspective. Surprise surprise, there is also a black hole at the center of each galaxy. But this contradicts the belief by scientists that black holes draw everything in because the galaxies are expanding too. I think the singularities give birth to more stars and planets.
I saw sparks in a machine shop once so I know how the universe works.
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Reapist posted:
In our section of the universe there was no light before hand. And I am not convinced everything will fall back in upon itself. I've seen a lot of sparks in machine shops and the steel mill. I have a feeling everything will just spread out and die out. But since the universe has no time it is a very slow process from out perspective. Surprise surprise, there is also a black hole at the center of each galaxy. But this contradicts the belief by scientists that black holes draw everything in because the galaxies are expanding too. I think the singularities give birth to more stars and planets.
I saw sparks in a machine shop once so I know how the universe works.
Oh good, someone who knows. If I light a fart does that mini bang create a mini universe?
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I don't think there was any light until the first stars were created, and that was several hundred thousand years after the Big Bang. But don't quote me on that. I'm not an astrophysicist, I'm just a jerk on the internet.
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Black holes are but wormholes to other galaxies... What gets sucked out of one black hole is being pushed out of another entity that is as of yet unnamed.
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Nobody knows what happens inside a black hole, nobody except Caledric. Stephen Hawking has him on speed dial and they exchange text messages all the time, BFFs.
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Fortune has shined on us all today, now all of ACF knows how black holes work.
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Nobody knows what happens inside a black hole, nobody except Caledric. Stephen Hawking has him on speed dial and they exchange text messages all the time, BFFs.
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
Oh my god you are so wrong.
Maybe but that is how Neil deGrasse explained it, and I think he is a little bit smarter than you.
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I don't think that dude was being serious but yeah...wormholes are just a theoretical concept, we don't know if they exist. Black holes definitely exist, we can view them indirectly and measure the effects on their surroundings.
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 somehow this image seemed appropriate to the conversation
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
If *there not holes then how come we can go inside them?
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creation is just form of a end for one place and a beginning for another. like multiply bubbles one burst into another. one ends another begins.
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
Oh my god you are so wrong.
Maybe but that is how Neil deGrasse explained it, and I think he is a little bit smarter than you.
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What's this about the Easter Bunny?
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What's this about the Easter Bunny?
The Easter Bunny is not real... I just shattered your world.
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Fortune has shined on us all today, now all of ACF knows how black holes work.
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Black holes are not "holes". They don't lead to another universe, create new universes or house the Easter Bunny. Popular stupidty focuses on the word "hole" and misses that it is not a exact description.
They are masses, like planets, stars, etc. The only difference is that there is so much mass in that area and gravity is so high as a result, that even light is pulled in.
If *there not holes then how come we can go inside them?
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You can't.
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almost nothing escapes the EVENT HORIZON of a black hole, that does not mean that objects outside the event horizon like say stars can't expand away from it.
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I am not buying it. Scientists say they are holes. We should not go so close to one or risk falling in. Are black holes really black?
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LOL at black holes being holes. I also do not buy warping the fabric of space. My theory is not supported but I believe time and space are both very linear. I don't think you can shortcut either one. They say time does not exist but I believe it is a constant.
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I think I invented a time machine but people just say the fumes made me black out so I missed a couple days
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I think I invented a time machine but people just say the fumes made me black out so I missed a couple days
I saw this in a movie. You have to put the probe between your legs then plug it in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzl3ZwcoSR0
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In our section of the universe there was no light before hand. And I am not convinced everything will fall back in upon itself. I've seen a lot of sparks in machine shops and the steel mill. I have a feeling everything will just spread out and die out. But since the universe has no time it is a very slow process from out perspective. Surprise surprise, there is also a black hole at the center of each galaxy. But this contradicts the belief by scientists that black holes draw everything in because the galaxies are expanding too. I think the singularities give birth to more stars and planets.
I saw sparks in a machine shop once so I know how the universe works.
Clarissa explains it all.
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Speaking of Steven Hawking and black holes...
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/stephen-hawking-hangs-out-in-strip-clubs/
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So nobody knows if the big bang created light or not. That's just great.
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I usually bang with the light on.
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I usually bang with the light on.
Only counts as big bang if you and partner have a combined weight of 800 pounds or more.
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LOL at black holes being holes. I also do not buy warping the fabric of space. My theory is not supported but I believe time and space are both very linear. I don't think you can shortcut either one. They say time does not exist but I believe it is a constant.
They have sent very precise atomic clocks into orbit, and the times have changed by being in different gravity, relative to the reference clock we had on earth.
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I usually bang with the light on.
Only counts as big bang if you and partner have a combined weight of 800 pounds or more.
I don't think my bed frame is rated for that kind of load.
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LOL at black holes being holes. I also do not buy warping the fabric of space. My theory is not supported but I believe time and space are both very linear. I don't think you can shortcut either one. They say time does not exist but I believe it is a constant.
They have sent very precise atomic clocks into orbit, and the times have changed by being in different gravity, relative to the reference clock we had on earth.
Of course there is different gravity in "free fall". Gravity exists everywhere to varying degrees. It even varies on earth. But I do not think time is controlled by gravity. I think the mechanism inside the atomic clock is though. I believe their thinking to be very wrong. I stand by my statement that I believe time to be a linear constant. Of course I cannot prove that any more than a religious person can prove God exists.
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Of course there is different gravity in "free fall".
lol wtf?
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But I do not think time is controlled by gravity. I think the mechanism inside the atomic clock is though.
Wrong
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I stand by my statement that I believe time to be a linear constant.
Super wrong.
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Super wrong.
Could be. Then again I could be right. We'll never know. And at a frequency of 9 billion cycles per second and atomic clock is very accurate but that frequency could be affected by gravity like the Doppler effect on sound waves.
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Super wrong.
Could be. Then again I could be right.
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Keep trying grasshopper, maybe you will convince me yet.
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time is constant guys, i've been looking very closely at a watch for some time now.
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time is constant guys, i've been looking very closely at a watch for some time now.
Mine slows down after a few years of use and then it eventually stops. Then I get a new watch.
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time is constant guys, i've been looking very closely at a watch for some time now.
I was wrong, we have proof!
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Keep trying grasshopper, maybe you will convince me yet.
I don't mind you being completely and totally wrong.
Enjoy!
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Yes, because it really affects thee way I can live my life.
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time is constant guys, i've been looking very closely at a watch for some time now.
Mine slows down after a few years of use and then it eventually stops. Then I get a new watch.
obviously that's due to flux capacitance thermodynamics.
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time is constant guys, i've been looking very closely at a watch for some time now.
Mine slows down after a few years of use and then it eventually stops. Then I get a new watch.
obviously that's due to flux capacitance thermodynamics.
But, but, I PUT 1.21 gigawatts into the damn thing...
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Yes, because it really affects thee way I can live my life.
Learn to write a coherent sentence before lecturing about physics.
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you're supposed to do 1.12 !! you overloaded the circuits. get your dyslexia checked.
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Yes, because it really affects thee way I can live my life.
See he's right. Time is constant he's still speaking in Olde English.
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Yes, because it really affects thee way I can live my life.
Learn to write a coherent sentence before lecturing about physics.
You are still very affected by me. It's cute.
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You are still very affected by me. It's cute.
You have no idea what's going on, ever.
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There is some major flirting going on here.
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You are still very affected by me. It's cute.
You have no idea what's going on, ever.
Yeah, must be the stroke.
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The Big Bang reminds Trolling/Baiting
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The Big Bang reminds Quoted an Edit
You don't run a train... you run train.
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The Big Bang reminds Quoted an Edit
You don't run a train... you run train.
ikk, kah is going to college....he's smart like Sith.
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Photons were created in the big bang. However, the universe was too hot for photons to move about freely- they would get absorbed and re-emitted by electrons over and over again. The universe was opaque to light and radiation up until about 300k or 400k years after the big bang. At this point, electrons became bound to protons and photons were thus able to move about unimpeded.
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So anwyays, God was the one who created the big bang and as proven here by ACF scientists, he really did say let there be light because it was a result of the big bang, if no one understood that this was where I was ultimately headed.
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So anwyays, God was the one who created the big bang and as proven here by ACF scientists, he really did say let there be light because it was a result of the big bang, if no one understood that this was where I was ultimately headed.
The christian creation myth was edited into Genesis around 600 BCE at the same time that the "priestly source" had crafted the book of Leviticus. This occurred during the Hebrew exile into Babylon where the Hebrews first came into contact with the Babylonian creation myth "Enuma Elish". Second Isaiah rewrites these Babylonian myths and attributes them to Yahweh. This is the same time when the bible is rewritten to cover up former monolateralist polytheistic thinking and monotheism is born (the worship of El Shaddai as elohim is explained to be the one true god in disguise, worship of Asherah and Baal are suppressed, and the former war god, Yahweh, is rewritten to become the El Shaddai of old, etc...).
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yes, i came banging out of my mom and let there be light
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So anwyays, God was the one who created the big bang and as proven here by ACF scientists, he really did say let there be light because it was a result of the big bang, if no one understood that this was where I was ultimately headed.
The christian creation myth was edited into Genesis around 600 BCE at the same time that the "priestly source" had crafted the book of Leviticus. This occurred during the Hebrew exile into Babylon where the Hebrews first came into contact with the Babylonian creation myth "Enuma Elish". Second Isaiah rewrites these Babylonian myths and attributes them to Yahweh. This is the same time when the bible is rewritten to cover up former monolateralist polytheistic thinking and monotheism is born (the worship of El Shaddai as elohim is explained to be the one true god in disguise, worship of Asherah and Baal are suppressed, and the former war god, Yahweh, is rewritten to become the El Shaddai of old, etc...).
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So anwyays, God was the one who created the big bang and as proven here by ACF scientists, he really did say let there be light because it was a result of the big bang, if no one understood that this was where I was ultimately headed.
The christian creation myth was edited into Genesis around 600 BCE at the same time that the "priestly source" had crafted the book of Leviticus. This occurred during the Hebrew exile into Babylon where the Hebrews first came into contact with the Babylonian creation myth "Enuma Elish". Second Isaiah rewrites these Babylonian myths and attributes them to Yahweh. This is the same time when the bible is rewritten to cover up former monolateralist polytheistic thinking and monotheism is born (the worship of El Shaddai as elohim is explained to be the one true god in disguise, worship of Asherah and Baal are suppressed, and the former war god, Yahweh, is rewritten to become the El Shaddai of old, etc...).
Yah yah whatever. But you can't explain how it is that modern ACF scientists determined that light was created after the big bang, and these so called creation "myths" somehow concluded that light was created after God said the words of power "let there be light." How could ignorant religious people "accidentally" get it right?
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So anwyays, God was the one who created the big bang and as proven here by ACF scientists, he really did say let there be light because it was a result of the big bang, if no one understood that this was where I was ultimately headed.
The christian creation myth was edited into Genesis around 600 BCE at the same time that the "priestly source" had crafted the book of Leviticus. This occurred during the Hebrew exile into Babylon where the Hebrews first came into contact with the Babylonian creation myth "Enuma Elish". Second Isaiah rewrites these Babylonian myths and attributes them to Yahweh. This is the same time when the bible is rewritten to cover up former monolateralist polytheistic thinking and monotheism is born (the worship of El Shaddai as elohim is explained to be the one true god in disguise, worship of Asherah and Baal are suppressed, and the former war god, Yahweh, is rewritten to become the El Shaddai of old, etc...).
Yah yah whatever. But you can't explain how it is that modern ACF scientists determined that light was created after the big bang, and these so called creation "myths" somehow concluded that light was created after God said the words of power "let there be light." How could ignorant religious people "accidentally" get it right?
Obviously, the Babylonians were right and it wasn't an accident. Our universe was created when Marduk slew Tiamat, ripped her body in half, and constructed the world and the firmament from her carcass.
But to be serious, you're misquoting the bible.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Light wasn't first. A formless earth and primordial waters supposedly existed before light.
This is similar to the Enuma Elish, where Apsu and Tiamat were the primordial waters of chaos.
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Wow religious topics are like cao's bat signal to profanity on them.
Dude hardly ever post but never misses teh opportunity to profanity on a religious opinion.
Either u mad, or u dedicated.
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Wow religious topics are like cao's bat signal to sh** on them.
Dude hardly ever post but never misses teh opportunity to sh** on a religious opinion.
Either u mad, or u dedicated.
Make up your mind. Am I one of the faceless posters who you can't distinguish from the rest of the masses? Or am I the batman of religious trolls?
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Make up your mind. Am I one of the faceless posters who you can't distinguish from the rest of the masses? Or am I the batman of religious trolls?
I've already dubbed you batman. My mind's made up.
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