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just one example.... high school shooting this morning...near cleveland
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What is up with kids these days???
I graduated in 1994.
We used to settle disputes via fighting, suspensions were no big deal, my foster father would make us do yard work/landscaping during that time. His property looked great as my foster brothers and I never liked the rich kids. They were scared of us.
Eventually boxing and football became a great outlet for us.
But GUNS/WEAPONS to a school dispute???
Always stupid.
I guess I belong to a different generation.
I blame Donnie Darko.
Yes it always comes down to some girlfriend-less misfit who couldn't make the football team getting upset while watching donnie darko and playing video games.
You think you are tough go play a contact sport or join the military.
You want to go kill people and get away with it, become a cop.
Geez.
Life is not that hard people.
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What is up with kids these days???
I graduated in 1994.
We used to settle disputes via fighting, suspensions were no big deal, my foster father would make us do yard work/landscaping during that time. His property looked great as my foster brothers and I never liked the rich kids. They were scared of us.
Eventually boxing and football became a great outlet for us.
But GUNS/WEAPONS to a school dispute???
Always stupid.
I guess I belong to a different generation.
I blame Donnie Darko.
Yes it always comes down to some girlfriend-less misfit who couldn't make the football team getting upset while watching donnie darko and playing video games.
You think you are tough go play a contact sport or join the military.
You want to go kill people and get away with it, become a cop.
Geez.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#1990s
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Shootings back then were relegated to inner city, as far as I remember, but I had left those situations by the time I was 14, thankfully.
Dennis-Yarmouth was a rather peaceful school on Cape Cod. It was easy to be a fighter/jock there. It wasn't like it was Brockton or anything.
The only big shooting I can remember was Columbine.
and it's involvement with Donnie Darko.
Bringing weapons to school is a sign of cowardice, any attempt to bring them only shows that person lost whatever moral ground they thought they had.
I hope that kid gets the justice he deserves.
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Police say the boy wasn't a jock.
Thats the problem right there.
I wasn't the brightest bulb, but was smart enough to know that sports was a great outlet and attracted girls too.
Kids these days want to be tough guys but are too lazy to play football, hockey or other contact sports.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#1990s
At least we are good at something. We have had more people killed in school shooting than every other country listed in that article combined.
WTF is wrong with us as a country when we see stats like this? Are we really that great of a country when we can claim that our country alone has more students shooting each other than all the rest of the countries in the world COMBINED?
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forgot to post the link to the article
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1
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http://www.mibazaar.com/schoolshootings/
It's everywhere, not just Ohio. There was just one in Texas a couple days ago.
Different world these days.
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Shootings back then were relegated to inner city, as far as I remember, but I had left those situations by the time I was 14, thankfully.
Olivehurst, California
Blackville, South Carolina
Moses Lake, Washington
Bethel, Alaska
Pearl, Mississippi
West Padukah, Kentucky
Stamps, Arkansas
Edinboro, Pennsylvania
Conyers, Georgia
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http://www.mibazaar.com/schoolshootings/
It's everywhere, not just Ohio. There was just one in Texas a couple days ago.
Different world these days.
It isn't even that it is a different world. It is just US. These things are so infrequent everywhere else it seems. You know, we are the greatest country in the world or to ever exist, depending on what politician you are referring to, yet we have 3rd world crime rates and health care, and we ARE the 3rd world leader in school shootings!
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I don't know of too many happening here in MA, but then we have the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Correlation or coincidence? I think there was one in the 80s or 90s sometime.
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http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html
another worldwide timeline.
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Shootings back then were relegated to inner city, as far as I remember, but I had left those situations by the time I was 14, thankfully.
Olivehurst, California
Blackville, South Carolina
Moses Lake, Washington
Bethel, Alaska
Pearl, Mississippi
West Padukah, Kentucky
Stamps, Arkansas
Edinboro, Pennsylvania
Conyers, Georgia
What Tych said.
You don't see Massachusetts in that list you quoted, Tal.
Also, looking at the timeline Halloweve posted, things seems to become copy-cat after columbine: disgruntled donnie darko watching, video game playing, non-jocks who didn't play sports and didn't have girlfriends.
Sports was always a better outlet than video games.
Kids these days are playing MMA video games instead of actually participating in the sport.
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There are inner cities outside of Mass.
If you meant 'In Massachussetts, this only seemed to happen in inner cities', that's a different story.
What I'm pointing out here is that you are pretty oblivious to this. It was happening while you were in school and it was happening in primarily small rural and suburban schools.
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you can find them for any state..probably any country. If they can't get ahold of a gun..it is something else.
example: This was the first thing that pulled up for Mass.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578985,00.html
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Shootings back then were relegated to inner city, as far as I remember, but I had left those situations by the time I was 14, thankfully.
Olivehurst, California
Blackville, South Carolina
Moses Lake, Washington
Bethel, Alaska
Pearl, Mississippi
West Padukah, Kentucky
Stamps, Arkansas
Edinboro, Pennsylvania
Conyers, Georgia
What Tych said.
You don't see Massachusetts in that list you quoted, Tal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Lo
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/5/20/justin-cosby-21-dies-after-shooting/
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There are inner cities outside of Mass.
If you meant 'In Massachussetts, this only seemed to happen in inner cities', that's a different story.
What I'm pointing out here is that you are pretty oblivious to this. It was happening while you were in school and it was happening in primarily small rural and suburban schools.
Why would I be talking about goings-on outside of Massachusetts pre-1994?
It's not like the internet was as accessible, unless you could afford a computer back then.
They were pretty pricey back in the day.
I was too busy playing sports to spend anytime in the computer lab. I'm not sure we even had a computer lab, lol. Maybe, but I never used it, so all info I got back then was in the newspaper.
And as far as I knew back then, those incidents were rare and confined to inner-cities.
Today, kids are way different.
Less sports & less going outside while being more donnie darko watching, video game playing.
I never seen the movie, all i know from wiki is that its about some emo non-jock who kill himself thinking it will matter.
He would be wrong, as life goes on and the world moves on.
Anyway my time up, time to go outside and go snowboarding with my kids.
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you can find them for any state..probably any country. If they can't get ahold of a gun..it is something else.
example: This was the first thing that pulled up for Mass.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578985,00.html
Brockton, after 1994.
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Littleton, CO is pretty much the opposite of 'inner city'
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lol yeah I noticed Brockton also.
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[quote=_Gronk_]Shootings back then were relegated to inner city, as far as I remember, but I had left those situations by the time I was 14, thankfully.
Olivehurst, California
Blackville, South Carolina
Moses Lake, Washington
Bethel, Alaska
Pearl, Mississippi
West Padukah, Kentucky
Stamps, Arkansas
Edinboro, Pennsylvania
Conyers, Georgia
What Tych said.
You don't see Massachusetts in that list you quoted, Tal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Lo
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/5/20/justin-cosby-21-dies-after-shooting/
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Wayne Lo = College, not High School shooting.
As for Cosby, college kids get mugged/robbed in Boston metro area. Only made big news cuz of Harvard association. Again college...
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Littleton, CO is pretty much the opposite of 'inner city'
I don't disagree.
All I was saying was that pre-1994, one didn't have normal access to the internet unless you were rich enough for your own computer, or was a hanging out in the high school computer lab.
I was neither.
I was too busy playing sports.
So one didn't have as much access to world news / news articles as we do today. And it didn't seem like as many shootings happened (especially in massachusetts high schools) back then.
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I don't know of too many happening here in MA, but then we have the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Correlation or coincidence?
considering guns are banned from schools....i'm not sure banning or restricting guns works like you think it does
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Well less guns in people's homes means less guns available to children that go to school. Unless you think that these kids are buying guns on the black market in alleys from gun runners! Chances are they are getting them from their parent's homes.
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Why would I be talking about goings-on outside of Massachusetts pre-1994?
Because the context of the discussion was about the national occurrence of school shootings and you made a generational statement.
'Kids these days' are no better or no worse then they were in our day.
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Well less guns in people's homes means less guns available to children that go to school. Unless you think that these kids are buying guns on the black market in alleys from gun runners! Chances are they are getting them from their parent's homes.
maybe in imagination land
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maybe in imagination land
Well I'll defer to you on that, you seem to know better than I about that.
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What is up with kids these days???
I graduated in 1994.
We used to settle disputes via fighting, suspensions were no big deal, my foster father would make us do yard work/landscaping during that time. His property looked great as my foster brothers and I never liked the rich kids. They were scared of us.
Eventually boxing and football became a great outlet for us.
But GUNS/WEAPONS to a school dispute???
Always stupid.
I guess I belong to a different generation.
I blame Donnie Darko.
Yes it always comes down to some girlfriend-less misfit who couldn't make the football team getting upset while watching donnie darko and playing video games.
You think you are tough go play a contact sport or join the military.
You want to go kill people and get away with it, become a cop.
Geez.
Life is not that hard people.
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Do all REMFs come with a sob story, or is that just you?
Btw, might want to double check your facts. Columbine happened in 1999, Donnie Darko came out two years later. Pretty sure the movie had nothing to do with the shooting, despite its time traveling plot. Petty sure the rest of what you "remember" has just about the same basis in fact. Drugs are bad, mmkay?
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MOS 13F is a combat MOS, and women are not allowed in that occupation. Which basically means bitches like you wouldn't be allowed in that MOS.
REMF = you.
And yes, I would say it to your face if you gave me the chance.
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I don't hate anyone here. I pity some.
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Buddy, you are the biggest coward on the Outpost. I've never seen someone so insecure with themselves. And you call me a girl? What, did daddy abandon you? Not really an excuse but I could see where your need to be validated by others comes from.
It's "surprising" the military didn't straighten you out... Then again you'd actually have to have served in order for that to happen.
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You obviously don't know what a MOS 13F does, or who they roll with, or even ahead of.
MOS 13F is a combat MOS, and women are not allowed in that occupation. Which basically means bitches like you wouldn't be allowed in that MOS.
REMF = you.
And yes, I would say it to your face if you gave me the chance.
Altra,
Don't hate because I am enjoying my life, and your woman is poorer, fatter, and less educated than mine.
I don't hate anyone here. I pity some.
May you someday have life so good.
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Outpost Maxim - The longer a thread goes on with Muffin Queen in it, the more narcissistic and pathetic his posts get.
Within the next few posts should be: his defense of his height, wife and that he thinks he can see his peen when he looks down.
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Buddy, you are the biggest coward on the Outpost. I've never seen someone so insecure with themselves. And you call me a girl? What, did daddy abandon you? Not really an excuse but I could see where your need to be validated by others comes from.
It's "surprising" the military didn't straighten you out... Then again you'd actually have to have served in order for that to happen.
You don't even know who I am.
Sorry if you didn't get the memo.
I already posted pics in picture thread, and many more.
If I have to reroll it's not by choice, its because some mods are just jelly.
Gosh, you crack me up, along with some others.
Hate away, I am enjoying life, and deservingly so.
If I post about my life it is to share the goodness that is being experienced today and the long road it took, and that anything is possible.
You just got to try.
Your own failure to not find happiness in life and to be bitter at others by spreading hate, is your own.
Don't hate because some of us are enjoying life.
And if you are enjoying yours, then I am happy for you.
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Any bets on how many more days muffin_king makes it before another epic /meltdown where he threatens to punch someone through the computer and then go break their kneecaps in real life?
I'd give it within 30 days of his first post here. I don't think he's hit his time of the month just yet.
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I don't need to any longer.
Life moves on, and I'm growing older and wiser.
and enjoying life too much to let any of it go to waste.
The idiot who brought the gun to school will never have the chance to live life like i am now.
His loss only makes room for others to succeed.
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Life must be easy when you compare yourself to homicidal loons. Then again, i could see why you'd automatically see similarities.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU
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I don't click YouTube links, but it's interesting you can't use your own words to fight your battles.
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Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how fun and awesome my life is right now.
Playing music, enjoying pizza night and teaching the kids how to dance liquid.
Maybe Tenkly can teach you that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQZkT-Vqds
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I for one am glad to hear that Muffin King has managed to fix all his character defects in a couple months.
(huh i just realized that I always use "I for one" before i say something completely insincere)
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