Kordirn posted:

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but but you would indoctrinate the poor kid to be gay osemthing. Thats why we can't allow gay marriage!

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Caoilin posted:

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the world will be a better place if non doesn't procreate. esp once he dies.

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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the world will be a better place if non doesn't procreate. esp once he dies.

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the same for you, only we know evil like you never dies...it just gets older and uglier and moldier.

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Caoilin posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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.Sylva. posted:

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Nope. People used to say that I was going to be the total earth mother with a passel of children. Yeah, not so much. In the meantime, some pretty cool kids became a part of my life, and I didn't even have to give birth to them, or get up in the night, or change dirty diapers!

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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When I was younger, I used to want kids. A boy and a girl. Had names picked out for them as well. As I've aged and had much more experience with them (especially after my parents decided to adopt two infants when I was about 24-25), my desire for children has vanished. In fact, the older I get, the less patient I seem to get with kids.

My wife is the same way. In fact, I can still remember the day that we decided that we weren't going to have them. We were in an Olive Garden, having lunch, and there was this toddler who was screaming as loud as he possibly could. The only time he was quiet was when his mother put some food into his mouth. The mother was the only person with the toddler, and she looked tired. I don't mean tired like 'I haven't slept in awhile', I mean tired like...someone who has just been beaten down by life. Maybe the kid was just having a bad day, maybe he was tired, or had an ear infection...I don't know. But it didn't matter. We both knew we never wanted to have to go through that, ever.

People like it when I watch their kids. My mom says that we're the only people she trusts with my little brother and sister, because we don't let them get away with stuff. But it frays my nerves. They talk too damn much. They're too loud. Nothing they have to say is of any consequence. And I know that I was the exact same way when I was a kid, but why does that mean that I have to suffer too? My wife and I would rather not be chained down financially, emotionally, or socially by kids.

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Ferrydust posted:

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I don't want kids but I love them still. I am too selfish to devote that much time to kids. It's funny though because I still always think of things that involve me having them. Like I will have a brief flash of what I would share with my daughter or son, and then I remember I don't want them :P

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_sooz_ posted:

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I flip back and forth on the subject. Wolfz really, really wants kids, and i love the idea of having kids. Im just scared because once you have one, if it turns out you're a crap parent or whatever, you cant give it back lol. Everybody says they think i'll be a great mum though, so who knows?

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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I flip back and forth on the subject. Wolfz really, really wants kids, and i love the idea of having kids. Im just scared because once you have one, if it turns out you're a crap parent or whatever, you cant give it back lol. Everybody says they think i'll be a great mum though, so who knows?

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and when the voices tell you to drown your offspring in the bathtub?

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_Haole_ posted:

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I've never had any desire to have children. Everyone I know thinks I would be a good parent though.

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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I flip back and forth on the subject. Wolfz really, really wants kids, and i love the idea of having kids. Im just scared because once you have one, if it turns out you're a crap parent or whatever, you cant give it back lol. Everybody says they think i'll be a great mum though, so who knows?

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and when the voices tell you to drown your offspring in the bathtub?

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I've been hearing voices telling me to do bad things for 26 years. Guess what? Im not a serial killer yet!

(Non-sarcastic version: just because they tell me to do something doesnt mean i leap to do it. Im not a mindless slave to their demands.)

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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[quote=_sooz_]I flip back and forth on the subject. Wolfz really, really wants kids, and i love the idea of having kids. Im just scared because once you have one, if it turns out you're a crap parent or whatever, you cant give it back lol. Everybody says they think i'll be a great mum though, so who knows?

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and when the voices tell you to drown your offspring in the bathtub?

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I've been hearing voices telling me to do bad things for 26 years. Guess what? Im not a serial killer yet!

(Non-sarcastic version: just because they tell me to do something doesnt mean i leap to do it. Im not a mindless slave to their demands.)

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Kordirn posted:

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but but you would indoctrinate the poor kid to be gay osemthing. Thats why we can't allow gay marriage!

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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[quote=Jezza_Belle][quote=_sooz_]I flip back and forth on the subject. Wolfz really, really wants kids, and i love the idea of having kids. Im just scared because once you have one, if it turns out you're a crap parent or whatever, you cant give it back lol. Everybody says they think i'll be a great mum though, so who knows?

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and when the voices tell you to drown your offspring in the bathtub?

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I've been hearing voices telling me to do bad things for 26 years. Guess what? Im not a serial killer yet!

(Non-sarcastic version: just because they tell me to do something doesnt mean i leap to do it. Im not a mindless slave to their demands.)

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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forgive me if I don't entrust you to care for a 100% defenseless helpless child. its not personal against you, its the unpredictability of the disease.

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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forgive me if I don't entrust you to care for a 100% defenseless helpless child. its not personal against you, its the unpredictability of the disease.

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*shrug* i've asked my shrink about it and she sees no reason why i couldnt have a kid.

EDIT: I do appreciate, though, that it is your opinion. Personally i think my track record speaks for itself. The very idea of harming someone else makes me sick to my stomach (which is one of the reasons, i think, that my voices tell me to do it, because they get a kick out of upsetting me), and i know for a FACT i would never do it.

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_Alexandra_ posted:

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I never wanted kids until I had one.

Now we are working on #5.

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_Alexandra_ posted:

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I never wanted kids until I had one.

Now we are working on #5.

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I want 3 kids but I bet having 5 would be a lot of fun. I grew up in a 2 kid household. I always wanted more brothers or sisters.

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myxomatosis8 posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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forgive me if I don't entrust you to care for a 100% defenseless helpless child. its not personal against you, its the unpredictability of the disease.

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*shrug* i've asked my shrink about it and she sees no reason why i couldnt have a kid.

EDIT: I do appreciate, though, that it is your opinion. Personally i think my track record speaks for itself. The very idea of harming someone else makes me sick to my stomach (which is one of the reasons, i think, that my voices tell me to do it, because they get a kick out of upsetting me), and i know for a FACT i would never do it.

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Honest question though: isn't a lot of what you have been diagnosed with genetically passed on? Like really big predispositions if not directly? If I had something really wrong with me, there is no way I'd take the chance of passing it onto my spawn.

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_Alexandra_ posted:

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I never wanted kids until I had one.

Now we are working on #5.

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I want 3 kids but I bet having 5 would be a lot of fun. I grew up in a 2 kid household. I always wanted more brothers or sisters.

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Gaevren posted:

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_Alexandra_ posted:

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I never wanted kids until I had one.

Now we are working on #5.

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I want 3 kids but I bet having 5 would be a lot of fun. I grew up in a 2 kid household. I always wanted more brothers or sisters.

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I'm the oldest of eight. It was definitely fun, and at that time I thought I would want a big family of my own, too. Yeah, not so much anymore- not to that extent, anyway! I'm pregnant with number four, and this will probably be it. I thought we were done at three, but surprise! Guess not, lol.

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Caoilin posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself every Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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Caoilin posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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says Quoted an Edit

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Caoilin posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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says Quoted an Edit.

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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says Quoted an Edit

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Caoilin posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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says Quoted an Edit

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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with your luck she'd detox off all the stuff she's on and figure out that she's fine.

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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NonOffensiveName posted:

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i'm confused.. was that an attempt at insulting me?

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nah I go easy on you... I figure you insult yourself every Quoted an Edit, you've been through enough.

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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with your luck she'd detox off all the stuff she's on and figure out that she's fine.

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The only drug i would have to come off is lithium, my shrink said my other drugs are fine for pregnancy.

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Tipztoe posted:

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I'd get another opinion.

a shrink giving medical advice is like ACF giving advice on how to be sensitive to others feelings.

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deadcactus posted:

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Tipztoe posted:

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I'd get another opinion.

a shrink giving medical advice is like ACF giving advice on how to be sensitive to others feelings.

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I'd look into the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist...

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_sooz_ posted:

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Jezza_Belle posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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with your luck she'd detox off all the stuff she's on and figure out that she's fine.

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The only drug i would have to come off is lithium, my shrink said my other drugs are fine for pregnancy.

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_sooz_ posted:

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I dont take zyprexa often (maybe twice a week on a bad week) and when i do its a baby dose. According to shrinky that should be fine.

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_sooz_ posted:

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I dont take zyprexa often (maybe twice a week on a bad week) and when i do its a baby dose. According to shrinky that should be fine.

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deadcactus posted:

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Tipztoe posted:

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I'd get another opinion.

a shrink giving medical advice is like ACF giving advice on how to be sensitive to others feelings.

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I'd look into the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist...

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Malrothien posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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I dont take zyprexa often (maybe twice a week on a bad week) and when i do its a baby dose. According to shrinky that should be fine.

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I would consult with a pharmacist prior to getting pregnant and taking ANYTHING.



I have avoided taking anything but the random tylenol while pregnant and a set of antibiotics a couple of weeks ago. It isn't worth the risk.

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Malrothien posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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I dont take zyprexa often (maybe twice a week on a bad week) and when i do its a baby dose. According to shrinky that should be fine.

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I would consult with a pharmacist prior to getting pregnant and taking ANYTHING.



I have avoided taking anything but the random tylenol while pregnant and a set of antibiotics a couple of weeks ago. It isn't worth the risk.

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_sooz_ posted:

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Malrothien posted:

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_sooz_ posted:

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I dont take zyprexa often (maybe twice a week on a bad week) and when i do its a baby dose. According to shrinky that should be fine.

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I would consult with a pharmacist prior to getting pregnant and taking ANYTHING.



I have avoided taking anything but the random tylenol while pregnant and a set of antibiotics a couple of weeks ago. It isn't worth the risk.

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Genuine question here, im not trying to troll: why, when i've already said that im consulting with my doctor over EVERYTHING, would you say i also had to ask a pharmacist? Personally i would trust an M.D. who prescribes this stuff for a living and knows this kind of (and these specific!) drugs like the back of her hand over a pharmacist who yeah knows a lot about drugs but has to retain a lot of information about a lot of different drugs and might not know my specific drugs very well.

I would love to avoid taking anything during pregnancy, but it isnt going to happen.

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_sooz_ posted:

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I would love to avoid taking anything during pregnancy, but it isnt going to happen.

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Gaevren posted:

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Doctors aren't infallible; it's a very good idea, even if you trust your doctor, to do your own research, get a second opinion, and ask questions.

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Gaevren posted:

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If you are on any kind of prescription drugs, there are three main people you should consult with before continuing to take them during pregnancy.

~Your current doctor (or in your case, your shrink, since she is both)
~Your OB/GYN who will be seeing you during your pregnancy- they know much more about pregnancy and what drugs to take/not take while you're pregnant than other docs.
~Your pharmacist- as stated above, they are specifically trained in drugs/drug interactions and often know when things are dangerous that other doctors might miss.

Doctors aren't infallible; it's a very good idea, even if you trust your doctor, to do your own research, get a second opinion, and ask questions.

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_sooz_ posted:

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Gaevren posted:

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If you are on any kind of prescription drugs, there are three main people you should consult with before continuing to take them during pregnancy.

~Your current doctor (or in your case, your shrink, since she is both)
~Your OB/GYN who will be seeing you during your pregnancy- they know much more about pregnancy and what drugs to take/not take while you're pregnant than other docs.
~Your pharmacist- as stated above, they are specifically trained in drugs/drug interactions and often know when things are dangerous that other doctors might miss.

Doctors aren't infallible; it's a very good idea, even if you trust your doctor, to do your own research, get a second opinion, and ask questions.

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Well as far as 1 and 2 are concerned, she already said that when the time comes not only does she want me discussing things with both her and my OB, but she also wants me to sign a release that says she can also talk to my OB, just in case.

I will also talk to a pharmacist about it, but for what its worth she knew the pregnancy categories of all the drugs i take, which is why she said she wants me 100% clear of lithium before i even start trying.

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