Modeeb
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts:
47,242
Registered:
Apr 19, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 39,997
User ID: 670,238
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
So, I have a lvl 50 and realize I need to PvP to get gear or run dailies. This is a grind. The only thing that makes it pleasant is I am in the Old Timers, a quality guild. I expect more content and I am sure it will come. Im working on a commando for PvP now. These guys put out some serious damage. At lvl 10 I went into a lvl 1-49 battleground and put out 133k damage.
My other class is a disruptor and not a dps character
-----signature-----
"What is here is there. What is not here is nowhere." Vishvasara Tantra
"Ever tried, Ever Failed. No matter. Try Again.
Fail Again. Fail Better. Samuel Beckett
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Espiritu-
Posts:
10,404
Registered:
Nov 29, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 9,216
User ID: 999,377
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
I finally unsubscribed this week. I don't even know when I stopped playing... but fortunately they sent me an email reminding me that I had a current subscription.
-----signature-----
Espiritu - SWTOR (retired)
Espiritu (MajorMUD, UO, DAoC, SB, FFXI, WoW, WAR, Travian, SC2, SWTOR)
|
|
Link to this post
|
__Bonk__
Posts:
53,947
Registered:
Jul 25, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 53,339
User ID: 1,364,654
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Most Outposters will only play Guild Wars 2 for beta and a month or two at the most I bet
-----signature-----
I keep my eyes fixed on the sun!
A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
|
|
Link to this post
|
Spilt_Milk
Posts:
45,738
Registered:
Jan 12, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 41,984
User ID: 608,235
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Besides guild wars, this will be my next mmo
http://www.thesecretworld.com/
-----signature-----
--- _ _ _
---/---__\=\_
-- |__|__\___\__
-- [__\|_| |O---O} <---Gas Guzzling Xterra Offroad Hippy Stomper AHHH!
--. ())'''''''''''())---)) Be the trouble you want to see in the world
|
|
Link to this post
|
Mangler_X
Posts:
4,191
Registered:
Jun 2, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 3,979
User ID: 684,949
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Modeeb posted:
Im working on a commando for PvP now. These guys put out some serious damage. At lvl 10 I went into a lvl 1-49 battleground and put out 133k damage.
I always thought that inflated damage numbers in games were just stupid.
If you have an opponent with 15 HP and you have a weapon that does 1 damage, you have to hit them 15 times to kill them
If you have an opponent with 150,000 HP and you have a weapon that does 10k damage, you STILL have to hit them 15 times to kill them
Game Devs just use those arbitrary inflated HP and DMG #s so gamers go "WOW! These guys put out some serious damage!"
150K DMG looks cooler than 15 dmg
As to the comment of Hitting the Wall in SWTOR, yeah I did that after about 1 hour in Beta
/FACEWALL
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Yukishiro1
Posts:
38,362
Registered:
Sep 20, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 31,453
User ID: 718,633
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
There is nothing worthwhile to do in SWTOR after you finish the single player storyline. The multiplayer bits of the game are crappy grinds.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Rhint
Posts:
3,382
Registered:
Sep 17, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 3,139
User ID: 717,369
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
__Bonk__ posted:
Most Outposters will only play Guild Wars 2 for beta and a month or two at the most I bet
If the WvW is anywhere near as good as DAoCs RvR, Ill play for quite a while.
-----signature-----
Pray for alien intervention
|
|
Link to this post
|
__Bonk__
Posts:
53,947
Registered:
Jul 25, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 53,339
User ID: 1,364,654
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
The problem is its been alot of years since DAOC and many Outposters are suffering from MMO burnout and gaming ADD. They are also in a different place in their lives than they were back in DAOC times.
-----signature-----
I keep my eyes fixed on the sun!
A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
|
|
Link to this post
|
Taliesihne
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts:
36,223
Registered:
Feb 19, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 30,592
User ID: 896,469
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Flashpoints and Ops are fun, as is Pvp.
I'm still enjoying myself.
-----signature-----
Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich
First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
|
|
Link to this post
|
Z-Elder
Posts:
8,621
Registered:
Mar 15, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,465
User ID: 657,803
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
The OTG forums and beta left no doubt that after LvL 50 it was a grind of the same content over and over. Just like all MMOGs You get 3 months for $90 plus whatever beta time one logged. A buck a day is cheap entertainment.
I have gone the leveling the 4 story lines at the same time path. Even so my 4 toons are in the 30s so the end is nigh no matter what path one takes.
WoW got around the 3 month limit by having so many alts available plus early PvP servers were kind of fun, if you were a hunter or lock.
GW2 with the buy to play will at least be cheaper. Maybe they can create an endgame at release.
-----signature-----
"The poison of our ordinary habits has killed the magic of the moment"
"Men are not in hell because God is angry with them . . .
they stand in the state of division and separation which by their own motion, they have made for themselves"
|
|
Link to this post
|
Yukishiro1
Posts:
38,362
Registered:
Sep 20, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 31,453
User ID: 718,633
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Taliesihne posted:
Flashpoints and Ops are fun, as is Pvp.
There's like 2 new flashpoints at level 50. Doing them once each is fun. Then boring.
Ops I dunno, haven't done.
The PVP is probably the worst MMO PVP I have ever played. Except for huttball, which is fun with a good team.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Urk_VN
Title: Orderly Randomizer
Posts:
8,320
Registered:
Oct 30, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 7,922
User ID: 733,088
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Mangler_X posted:
Modeeb posted:
Im working on a commando for PvP now. These guys put out some serious damage. At lvl 10 I went into a lvl 1-49 battleground and put out 133k damage.
I always thought that inflated damage numbers in games were just stupid.
If you have an opponent with 15 HP and you have a weapon that does 1 damage, you have to hit them 15 times to kill them
If you have an opponent with 150,000 HP and you have a weapon that does 10k damage, you STILL have to hit them 15 times to kill them
Game Devs just use those arbitrary inflated HP and DMG #s so gamers go "WOW! These guys put out some serious damage!"
150K DMG looks cooler than 15 dmg
As to the comment of Hitting the Wall in SWTOR, yeah I did that after about 1 hour in Beta
/FACEWALL
You know, that's one thing I miss about Ultima Online. I think everyone had 100 hp, and you had to be really careful about how you fought, because you could die in 1-3 hits easily depending on the gear, what you're fighting. I remember Balrons could 1-2 shot you easily even if you had really good gear (which didn't stop tanks from trying to tank it though lol).
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Taliesihne
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts:
36,223
Registered:
Feb 19, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 30,592
User ID: 896,469
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Yukishiro1 posted:
Taliesihne posted:
Flashpoints and Ops are fun, as is Pvp.
There's like 2 new flashpoints at level 50. Doing them once each is fun. Then boring.
Ops I dunno, haven't done.
The PVP is probably the worst MMO PVP I have ever played. Except for huttball, which is fun with a good team.
So don't play.
-----signature-----
Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich
First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
|
|
Link to this post
|
poetkiosk
Title: Snail Hunter
Posts:
19,178
Registered:
Mar 17, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 14,742
User ID: 658,239
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
If you have any experience at all with MMOs you should have done what me and my friends did - take it slow. We are still in our 30's and loving the game.
Everyone knew there was no end game in place yet - why the rush to get somewhere that will be boring until they add in the content?
-----signature-----
Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut http://www.welcometointernet.org/Jesus%20Cat.swf
|
|
Link to this post
|
Darwynnia
Title: Sugar Kibbi
Posts:
38,553
Registered:
Oct 13, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 36,556
User ID: 845,204
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
poetkiosk posted:
If you have any experience at all with MMOs you should have done what me and my friends did - take it slow. We are still in our 30's and loving the game.
Everyone knew there was no end game in place yet - why the rush to get somewhere that will be boring until they add in the content?
This. I just hit level 50 with my sorc two days ago. No rush, no fuss.
-----signature-----
Cluttered Desks and Ideas...
Sisters Forever
Susan Lynne Hall
1/20/69-12/21/05
Rest in Peace
|
|
Link to this post
|
Rikarus
Title: Ultimate Badass
Posts:
25,608
Registered:
Feb 24, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 19,041
User ID: 649,730
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
patch 1.2 upgrades crafting so my max level armor crafting will be useful!!!
-----signature-----
"But we are all that way: when we know a thing we have only scorn for other people who don't happen to know it." Clemmens
|
"Skinny would let his fists do the fisting." RonMexico
|
"/Pwning is serious business" Illy
|
|
Link to this post
|
Yukishiro1
Posts:
38,362
Registered:
Sep 20, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 31,453
User ID: 718,633
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
poetkiosk posted:
If you have any experience at all with MMOs you should have done what me and my friends did - take it slow. We are still in our 30's and loving the game.
Everyone knew there was no end game in place yet - why the rush to get somewhere that will be boring until they add in the content?
Yeah I have taken it slow too. I rerolled at 46 because I saw where things were going. I'm 43 now on my vanguard and starting to hit the point where logging in is becoming a chore again.
It doesn't help that the higher level you get the more of a chore it becomes to solo level because the silver mobs scale so dramatically. Once you get into the 40s each engagement with a silver mob ends up leaving you having to rest up afterwards, which gets old fast.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
NuEM
Posts:
15,394
Registered:
Mar 2, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,662
User ID: 900,449
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
-Espiritu- posted:
I finally unsubscribed this week. I don't even know when I stopped playing... but fortunately they sent me an email reminding me that I had a current subscription.
I remember when I realized I had been subscribing to Rift for half a year without ever actually playing it.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Modeeb
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts:
47,242
Registered:
Apr 19, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 39,997
User ID: 670,238
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
I just rerolled and im having a good time with the commandos story line.
-----signature-----
"What is here is there. What is not here is nowhere." Vishvasara Tantra
"Ever tried, Ever Failed. No matter. Try Again.
Fail Again. Fail Better. Samuel Beckett
|
|
Link to this post
|
kedz20xx
Title: Entertained
Posts:
9,072
Registered:
May 7, '08
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 9,020
User ID: 1,295,340
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Spilt_Milk posted:
Besides guild wars, this will be my next mmo
http://www.thesecretworld.com/
Well, you enjoy FunCom's next big failure. In case you missed the last two:
I gave SWTOR a go, but quickly became bored. Never got beyond 32. I saw the treadmill before me.
GW2 has a lot of features that I've been wanting, the biggest of which is the PVP.
-----signature-----
I piss excellence.
|
|
Link to this post
|
kedz20xx
Title: Entertained
Posts:
9,072
Registered:
May 7, '08
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 9,020
User ID: 1,295,340
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Modeeb posted:
I just rerolled and im having a good time with the commandos story line.
I enjoyed my IA more than Commando, but the Commando did put out some serious DPS. Wait until you get Gravity Round, and the ability that allows you to stack 2 gravity vortexes in one hit. It's OP.
-----signature-----
I piss excellence.
|
|
Link to this post
|
silvadel2
Posts:
4,970
Registered:
Jul 13, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 4,970
User ID: 57,980
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Mangler_X posted:
Modeeb posted:
Im working on a commando for PvP now. These guys put out some serious damage. At lvl 10 I went into a lvl 1-49 battleground and put out 133k damage.
I always thought that inflated damage numbers in games were just stupid.
If you have an opponent with 15 HP and you have a weapon that does 1 damage, you have to hit them 15 times to kill them
If you have an opponent with 150,000 HP and you have a weapon that does 10k damage, you STILL have to hit them 15 times to kill them
Game Devs just use those arbitrary inflated HP and DMG #s so gamers go "WOW! These guys put out some serious damage!"
150K DMG looks cooler than 15 dmg
As to the comment of Hitting the Wall in SWTOR, yeah I did that after about 1 hour in Beta
/FACEWALL
The problem then comes from:
1) What do you upgrade a 1 damage weapon to? 2 means doubling your output.
2) What does a lesser class like a tank do for damage? 0?
At any rate you need at least high enough numbers to allow low level people variance in weapons and classes.
The problem is that a level 50 person in most games does tremendously more damage than a level 1 person hence the numbers inflate.
If it was a more gradual progression -- say a level 1 player was essentially level 11 instead... And went to 12 when they went to 2. It would make the low levels a little less ridiculous and the high levels a lot less inflated. It also would allow a level 1 player to have opponents below them.
-----signature-----
Lost postcount 17k; Lost years 9.6; Lost Title: Priceless
The most expensive things in life are free
Asheron's Call 3 // Horizons 2 -- Dragons of Dereth (one can always hope)
1920x1200 is a Monitor. 1920x1080 is a TV without a tuner.
|
|
Link to this post
|
Special-Fred
Title: Sultan of Spank
Posts:
37,178
Registered:
Jul 30, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 27,213
User ID: 826,819
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
They are doing all the same things with secret world that they did with age of conan. It's going to fail... hard. All the secretive stuff, being super proud but having almost nothing to show. It's all identical to AoC with how they're handling it. Honestly don't know how they're still afloat to make this game.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
sweeny_comodore
Posts:
9,066
Registered:
Aug 23, '07
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,113
User ID: 1,248,480
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
im pretty much done at level 34ish.
my initial class quest is done. ive got my last name.
im capped in merc token and wz tokens. theres nothing else i can buy with them.
my valor caps at less than half xp to next level.
theres nothing left to do untill im higher level and can restart the next act of my class quest.
and i refuse to do fetch and retrieve missions, while chasing mission terminals all over the planet.
theres no real gear to be gotten. crafting is ungodly expensive if i still want to be able to buy new skills when i level.
-----signature-----
Jesus? No, but there is indeed a god shaped hole in the heart of man, why is yours so empty? -- snarf igraine the original monotheism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
|
|
Link to this post
|
Skinnyrumcakes
Title: Lich Larping Vampire Hunter
Posts:
35,519
Registered:
Jan 10, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 29,763
User ID: 603,873
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
Yet you all log in here and keep posting, which is much more boring.
-----signature-----
"GW is real and yes it is man made - that is a fact!" - Reesecups
"Also, the next time someone says that Christian music never hurt anyone, I'm citing this as a reference." Zigmundzag
|
|
Link to this post
|
Rikarus
Title: Ultimate Badass
Posts:
25,608
Registered:
Feb 24, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 19,041
User ID: 649,730
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
|
right now I am busy making a smal fortune crafting Orange empty socket chest pieces and pants for smuggler and troopers! Craft them at level 43-45 for the folks who aint pvp geared yet!
-----signature-----
"But we are all that way: when we know a thing we have only scorn for other people who don't happen to know it." Clemmens
|
"Skinny would let his fists do the fisting." RonMexico
|
"/Pwning is serious business" Illy
|
|
Link to this post
|
Mangler_X
Posts:
4,191
Registered:
Jun 2, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 3,979
User ID: 684,949
|
Subject:
I Hit The Wall Last Night in SWTOR
|
Rikarus posted:
right now I am busy making a smal fortune crafting Orange empty socket chest pieces and pants for smuggler and troopers! Craft them at level 43-45 for the folks who aint pvp geared yet!
You are wearing your ST Armor when you play arent you?
ADMEET EET!!
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
