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Ok, so this will be my second build, but I really do not follow the tech so I am having some trouble. I have a few components in mind and a somewhat flexible budget.

These are the things I am looking at so far.

i7 2600k processor
Geforce GTX 560 Ti graphics card
Kingston hyperx 2x4GB Ram
Coolermaster HAF922 case

I really do not know where I should go on the power supply (how much I will need) and I know next to nothing about motherboards. I am also wondering about hard drives because I really do not need a bunch of space, but want to pick a drive that offers the best bang for the buck.

I have also read that the stock heatsinks on the i7 CPUs are faulty, and am open to suggestions. I have an Optical drive, so I'm not worried about that.

Alternatively, if anyone just wants to throw out what I have picked and suggest a decent build for around $1200 (give or take a hundred) I am open to suggestions. I just want something that will handle the next couple years of games fairly well.

 

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Rhint posted:
Ok, so this will be my second build, but I really do not follow the tech so I am having some trouble. I have a few components in mind and a somewhat flexible budget.

These are the things I am looking at so far.

i7 2600k processor
Geforce GTX 560 Ti graphics card
Kingston hyperx 2x4GB Ram
Coolermaster HAF922 case

I really do not know where I should go on the power supply (how much I will need) and I know next to nothing about motherboards. I am also wondering about hard drives because I really do not need a bunch of space, but want to pick a drive that offers the best bang for the buck.

I have also read that the stock heatsinks on the i7 CPUs are faulty, and am open to suggestions. I have an Optical drive, so I'm not worried about that.

Alternatively, if anyone just wants to throw out what I have picked and suggest a decent build for around $1200 (give or take a hundred) I am open to suggestions. I just want something that will handle the next couple years of games fairly well.


CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011


That's a nice video card. I've been eyeballing an EVGA GTX560ti 1.2gb for sometime.

 

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Start here:

http://www.maximumpc.com/best-of-the-best

 

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I suggest waiting a month or so..new stuff is coming out soon.

 

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http://www.newegg.com/Store/Promotion.aspx?storeid=33&name=DIY-PC-Combos

http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html?name=Power-Supply-Wattage-Calculator

 

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I suggest waiting a month or so..new stuff is coming out soon.


New stuff is always coming out. If Rhint went by that mantra the computer would never get built.

 

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overpriced powersupply, not needed.


don;t need somethin that hefty until you start running sli, overclocking and all that stupid shit.


the mobo seems decent.

 

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power supply

100 bucks cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031


same one i got, its quiet

 

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if you game, get yourself a solid state drive, use that for any programs you run.

get a regular hardrive for a secondary which you store music, movies, and the such on.

 

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Use my case and power supply and you won't be sorry. The case has channels for the cable that rock and the cooling is amazingly good and quiet. Also, I have not had any problems with the stock cpu cooling unit.

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and if you want to spend less then 210 bucks on a mobo, this one is a great alternative....


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128502

 

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Spilt_Milk posted:
Use my case and power supply and you won't be sorry.

Intel Core i7-2600 Processor 3.4GHz 8 MB Cache Socket LGA1155

Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B

Galaxy Technology GeForce GTX 580 1536 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0
DVI/DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 58NLH5HS3PXZ

Corsair HX Professional Series 750-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5 - CMPSU-750HX

Gigabyte Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Motherboards GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

Cooler Master Computer Case Cooling 200mm R4-LUS-07AR-GP (Red)

Hauppauge 1196 WinTV-HVR-1250 PCI-E x1 TV Tuner 1196

Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache
Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

This is the best build I have done and it is sweetness incarnate.

grin


again a powersupply with more wattage then needed, and 60-100 bucks to exspensive.


either you have a reliable power supply or you don't

and it provides enough power, or it doesn't

no need for 160$ ps

 

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yea stock cooling is usually more then adequate as long as you tie cables, and are not ocíng

 

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Except if you want a modular psu that is awesome for cable management and ease of installation. I will never buy any other power supply from now on. It's totally worth it.


 

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Fat_wong posted:
if you game, get yourself a solid state drive, use that for any programs you run.

get a regular hardrive for a secondary which you store music, movies, and the such on.
This.

I just rebuilt my media PC and used a 120 GB SSD for the system drive. Load times were around 10 seconds from powering the system on until I installed Acronis disk imaging software. 120 GB SSD will cost you about $40 more than a TB hard drive, maybe less if you keep an eye out for deals and rebates.

 

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ok. so you think because a ps is 100 bucks cheaper its not modular. so on that note. ignore spilt.

 

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kedz20xx posted:
eodoll posted:
I suggest waiting a month or so..new stuff is coming out soon.


New stuff is always coming out. If Rhint went by that mantra the computer would never get built.


The nvidia gtx6xx series is overdue... So it will come out shortly and prices will come down for the 560 and others.

Apple for instance usually releases ipads and macs in march to may, so buying one now will make you out of date in one month.

This is a good time to wait.

 

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Spilt_Milk posted:
Except if you want a modular psu that is awesome for cable management and ease of installation. I will never buy any other power supply from now on. It's totally worth it.





Is that the corsair case? I looks messy. I have the corsair 800d (i think) case and its really clean, no dangling cables anywhere.

 

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That's before I strapped em down and tied em off.

 

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Its the greatest case.. It would benefit from a few changes but those guys over at corsair were on the right track. I bought it when it first came out, it was expensive but i have no regrets.

 

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If it's just for gaming, you can save a few bucks by going with a 2500k instead of a 2600k.

You may be able to save a few bucks by going with SATA2 HDs. Current HDs can't get anywhere close to SATA3 throughput.

You might want to consider getting a motherboard that will accept the new Ivy Bridge cpus and pci-e 3 gpus, which are due out sometime this year.

Make sure your case is big enough to handle the gpu you want.



 

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I recommend and Imac.

 

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Get a Sata III MB and get a Sata III SSD. You won't regret it.

Make sure you support USB 3.0 as well.

 

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If it's just for gaming, you can save a few bucks by going with a 2500k instead of a 2600k.

You may be able to save a few bucks by going with SATA2 HDs. Current HDs can't get anywhere close to SATA3 throughput.

You might want to consider getting a motherboard that will accept the new Ivy Bridge cpus and pci-e 3 gpus, which are due out sometime this year.

Make sure your case is big enough to handle the gpu you want.






This. You do not need an i7 for gaming. Go with an i5 and it'l work just as well.

 

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eodoll posted:
kedz20xx posted:
eodoll posted:
I suggest waiting a month or so..new stuff is coming out soon.


New stuff is always coming out. If Rhint went by that mantra the computer would never get built.


The nvidia gtx6xx series is overdue... So it will come out shortly and prices will come down for the 560 and others.

Apple for instance usually releases ipads and macs in march to may, so buying one now will make you out of date in one month.

This is a good time to wait.


And then what? Pay outrageous prices? The 560ti should hold down the fort pretty well.

 

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Drop the gtx 580 and get to gtx 560s. Be the same price for 2 560s instead of 1 580.

 

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Mastara posted:
Drop the gtx 580 and get to gtx 560s. Be the same price for 2 560s instead of 1 580.


The unfortunate part is, it seems a lot of games are not SLI ready or compatible. It'd be a waste imo.

 

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SLI gets you another 20-25% performance boost. You don't get twice the graphics bump by using two cards. You're better off getting one powerful card that has the ability to do SLI or Crossfire so in 3 or 4 years when you're ready to upgrade a bit you can buy another of the same card at a much reduced rate (as it's now 4 years old tech) and SLI it then if you so choose.

A few additional thoughts:

Don't scrimp on the power supply. Buy a slightly less powerful graphics card if you need to save a couple bucks but get a good power supply. Modularity is awesome in power supplies.

Stock coolers will be loud.

Don't use RAID0 for data drives.

Memory is cheap. Buy a lot of it.

SSD drives are awesome to boot from but expensive to play from (at least currently).

Onboard sound is just fine for 99 44/100% of the people.

 

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sigh..nvidia fanbois...

 

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poetkiosk posted:
I recommend and Imac.


And that's why your opinion on the subject is useless.

 

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Special-Fred posted:
Groucho48 posted:
If it's just for gaming, you can save a few bucks by going with a 2500k instead of a 2600k.

You may be able to save a few bucks by going with SATA2 HDs. Current HDs can't get anywhere close to SATA3 throughput.

You might want to consider getting a motherboard that will accept the new Ivy Bridge cpus and pci-e 3 gpus, which are due out sometime this year.

Make sure your case is big enough to handle the gpu you want.






This. You do not need an i7 for gaming. Go with an i5 and it'l work just as well.


I agree with fred! shock As of last week I am running this:



It currently kicks much ass. It's unlocked and can be oc'ed to 4.2 but I don't have a need for it yet. I am currently playing World of Tanks, Starcraft 2 and Skyrim on "High" settings without so much as a hiccup and getting framerates I have (personally) never seen before, to wit:



and this is with a GTX460SE, a mobo that cost me $99 and 8 GB of ram (the mobo will hold 32 gb). With oc'ing I will have this cpu at least 5 years. You could get my rig with that vid card and be set.

Overpay if you want but it's a silly thing to do.

 

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Spilt_Milk posted:
Use my case and power supply and you won't be sorry. The case has channels for the cable that rock and the cooling is amazingly good and quiet. Also, I have not had any problems with the stock cpu cooling unit.

Intel Core i7-2600 Processor 3.4GHz 8 MB Cache Socket LGA1155

Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B

Galaxy Technology GeForce GTX 580 1536 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0
DVI/DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 58NLH5HS3PXZ

Corsair HX Professional Series 750-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5 - CMPSU-750HX

Gigabyte Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Motherboards GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

Cooler Master Computer Case Cooling 200mm R4-LUS-07AR-GP (Red)

Hauppauge 1196 WinTV-HVR-1250 PCI-E x1 TV Tuner 1196

Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache
Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

This is the best build I have done and it is sweetness incarnate.

grin


I like this except it needs a SSD and go ahead and max out on ram, it's cheap now.

I really like that keyboard, think that'll be my next puter purchase

 

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laugh WOT is terrible to use as a benchmark test for a video card.

 

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I was getting like 25 before the upgrade. And like I said SC 2 and Skyrim play without a hiccup. It's awesome. It's much more a testament to the cpu than the vid card

 

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I want a SSD, I still havent got one yet. Not sure how big I want.

 

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Here is the mobo I bought

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-C43.html

$110 online

 

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