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Per twitter, not going to look for a link for you ppl, just trust me.
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LOL, MLB just got bitchslapped!
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I forget
Who was the NL MVP, and what did he do?
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he bitchslapped the MLB apparently.
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Ah-Schoo posted:
he bitchslapped the MLB apparently.
What did the five fingers say to the face?
SLAP
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I forget
Who was the NL MVP, and what did he do?
Ryan Braun. MLB said he tested positive for HGH<?>, or some other illegal substance.
They aren't supposed to do that until the appeal is over, which ended today. It found him innocent.
They dragged his name through the mud for no reason.
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Its kind of weird on ESPN they made it sound like he got off because of some technicality not because he wasnt guilty. Maybe I misheard.
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Its kind of weird on ESPN they made it sound like he got off because of some technicality not because he wasnt guilty. Maybe I misheard.
Nope, listening to local ESPN radio and they were talking about the same thing.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
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he bitchslapped the MLB apparently.
What did the five fingers say to the face?
SLAP
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so he got off on a lame technicality?
i just heard this, and his comments he made.
not really clean if you only get off because MLB said you were busted too early. 
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Albdestroyer posted:
Brandun posted:
I forget
Who was the NL MVP, and what did he do?
Ryan Braun. MLB said he tested positive for HGH<?>, or some other illegal substance.
They aren't supposed to do that until the appeal is over, which ended today. It found him innocent.
They dragged his name through the mud for no reason.
Posted my question as I was leaving work.. listened to it on sports radio on the way home...... I forgot about this
For whatever reason I was thinking of Prince Fielder
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Report I heard is he got off because of chain of custody for test, they are saying it was still positive but the chain made it irrelevant.
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curious if they even bothered to see what the FedEx office hours were.
pretty pathetic a dirty player gets off because his sample sat intact in one space as opposed to another, IF the other office was even open.
FedEx here isn't open on saturday nor sunday.
World Anti-Doping Agency sees nothing wrong with what happened either.
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It's not some lame technicality. They had no proof that it was his urine test.
And he offered to do a DNA test, which the MLB declined.
edit: if you want a better idea of whats going on with this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSmKtMHtKc&feature=g-u-u&context=G2ebd135FUAAAAAAAAAA
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It wasn't my pee, I was just holding it for somebody.
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way too many "i think" statements from someone who does not know the details to consider that clip any form of proof.
i read earlier that Anti-Doping Agency said the seals were intact...is that not the case?
the way this clown was talking, it leads you to believe he pissed in a tupperware container and walked away...NOT at all how a piss test is done.
ALSO, i would consider ESPN, the group that caused this appeal, as saving face in this incident.
yet another black eye on the most pathetic drug testing policy in sports.
i like how a few other groups (olympics for one) have already come out condemning this decision
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It's not some lame technicality. They had no proof that it was his urine test.
And he offered to do a DNA test, which the MLB declined.
And the second test which he also failed?
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Cuttlery posted:
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It's not some lame technicality. They had no proof that it was his urine test.
And he offered to do a DNA test, which the MLB declined.
And the second test which he also failed?
What second test?
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What second test?
If a player comes back with a positive test they are given a second sample, he also failed that test.
Not that it matters, the original sample couldnt have been tampered with either, they are sealed and only the lab can remove the seals.
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Cuttlery posted:
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What second test?
If a player comes back with a positive test they are given a second sample, he also failed that test.
Not that it matters, the original sample couldnt have been tampered with either, they are sealed and only the lab can remove the seals.
I can't find anything about him failing a second test. This one says the second test was clean Link. I did see how they performed a second test on his failed sample to get more detail.
Not saying he's guilty, not saying he's innocent. They obviously did not prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
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way too many "i think" statements from someone who does not know the details to consider that clip any form of proof.
i read earlier that Anti-Doping Agency said the seals were intact...is that not the case?
the way this clown was talking, it leads you to believe he pissed in a tupperware container and walked away...NOT at all how a piss test is done.
ALSO, i would consider ESPN, the group that caused this appeal, as saving face in this incident.
yet another black eye on the most pathetic drug testing policy in sports.
i like how a few other groups (olympics for one) have already come out condemning this decision
CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.
Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.
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CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.
Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.
The thing that gets me is if you're going to put a person's entire professional reputation on the line, you DAMN well better make sure you've done all your due diligence to ensure the process is as fool proof as possible. Things like "highly unusual circumstances" should not even enter into the discussion, or should force an immediate retest.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
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CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.
Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.
The thing that gets me is if you're going to put a person's entire professional reputation on the line, you DAMN well better make sure you've done all your due diligence to ensure the process is as fool proof as possible. Things like "highly unusual circumstances" should not even enter into the discussion, or should force an immediate retest.
ESPN jumped on it quickly because he just won the MVP.
No matter what, he'll still be labeled as a cheater/doper, even though in all likely hood, he didn't do it.
Having met him several times, he's not built like a doper. He doesn't have the strength of a doper, his power comes from a pretty great swing. I'd be really surprised if he did use HGH or something like that.
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Manfred added that neither Braun nor the players’ union argued in the grievance process “that his sample had been tampered with or produced any evidence of tampering.†In other words, Braun’s camp used different rhetoric before the arbitrator than during Friday’s news conference.
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In sum: Did Braun raise doubts about how baseball obtains and transports its samples? Yes. Did he make a plausible argument? Yes. Did he make an airtight case that he’s innocent? No.
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got these off fox http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Ryan-Braun-suspension-appeal-Milwaukee-Brewers-analysis-022412
also there's a nice little quote from the US Anti-Doping Agency...
“To raise it now is a PR move,†said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which has consulted with MLB on its testing program. “If that’s really the case (that the collector deliberately tampered with the sample), then we ought to open up a criminal investigation. That’s felonious assault.â€
sooo...where's the cops?
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Manfred added that neither Braun nor the players’ union argued in the grievance process “that his sample had been tampered with or produced any evidence of tampering.†In other words, Braun’s camp used different rhetoric before the arbitrator than during Friday’s news conference.
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In sum: Did Braun raise doubts about how baseball obtains and transports its samples? Yes. Did he make a plausible argument? Yes. Did he make an airtight case that he’s innocent? No.
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got these off fox http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Ryan-Braun-suspension-appeal-Milwaukee-Brewers-analysis-022412
also there's a nice little quote from the US Anti-Doping Agency...
“To raise it now is a PR move,†said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which has consulted with MLB on its testing program. “If that’s really the case (that the collector deliberately tampered with the sample), then we ought to open up a criminal investigation. That’s felonious assault.â€
sooo...where's the cops?
Except we already know that the sample wasnt tampered with, the seals were still intact.
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when was the DNA offered?
let me guess...during the grievance AFTER the sample was destroyed?
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