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Youth sport coaches really piss me off!
last night I got an email calling out my team for not following the rules of the game for the 1st - 3rd graders basketball.
in particular not allowing the defense to get set (NO fast break league).

the parents and coach of the opposing team went to the league and petitioned our removal as coaches for THREE fast breaks in the game.
we did this in response to their TWELVE, yes i counted, TWELVE fast breaks in a row. sure, i will fully admit we stopped making our kids wait as retaliation.

they stopped the game each time, one time a parent (not a coach) went on the court, stopped the kid and grabbed the ball from one of my kids.

today, my grandmother just called and let me know that at the town recreation meeting this was also brought up, and the opposing coaches and parents all were there...funny i wasn't invited...
guess with the other coach being one of the Good ole Boys this kind of thing happens!

the only reason i will be allowed to coach the final game Saturday is because one of my players father is the chief of police who was on the detail for the meeting and spoke up.
him telling the FULL story is what allowed me to continue, but NOTHING was said to the opposing coach nor parents for their behavior.

the end result of the game, was he was PISSED he "lost" AND we shut down the best player in the league to the point he quit on his team completely.
we dont keep score, but he has a parent tracking stats every game.
he also stacked his team with 3rd graders.

WHY the hell do people get so involved in their kids sports that they act like this?
at that age it is about TEACHING the kids and FUN, not whining when things dont go your way and distorting the rules!

GOD i cant wait for Deck Hockey to start...most of us coaches play in the adult league...things like this work themselves out! tongue

 

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Uhm...why is there a rule about no fast breaks? That must be good exercise for the kids. If you don't want fast breaks then don't miss shots!

 

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have you seen a 1st grader play basketball?
even an 8 foot rim is a tough shot, let alone passing a ball that is wider than them!

i didn't make the rules, but they get plenty of exercise playing.
all out sprints is not teaching the kids the game, and if you dont get set, the kids dont learn a thing.

 

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they play full court?

 

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I thought you might play with those smaller sized balls...but you got a point there. I wonder what your team FG% is, lol.

My advice to you is just follow the rules and don't retaliate even if the other guy is breaking the rules. Sooner or later someone is bound to notice that you're playing fairly and the other team isn't

 

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yes it is full court...and actually, the balls are the smaller size, but still bigger than most kids...LOL

we follow the rules 99.9% of the time, and we HAVE been noticed as doing so, but we are outsiders!

that was the ONLY game where we had enough, and one of the high school coaches (funny enough his kid was on the other team but he had our back) was there and talked to the league president too, but i guess it meant nothing.

FG% is probably about 7% league wide...ours is probably lower as we have 5 kids that only knew what a basketball it self was, nevermind how to dribble!

 

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This is one of those things I'm going to really struggle with when I'm a parent. I'll really want to strangle stupid people that do this kind of crap.

 

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yes it is full court...and actually, the balls are the smaller size, but still bigger than most kids...LOL

we follow the rules 99.9% of the time, and we HAVE been noticed as doing so, but we are outsiders!

that was the ONLY game where we had enough, and one of the high school coaches (funny enough his kid was on the other team but he had our back) was there and talked to the league president too, but i guess it meant nothing.

FG% is probably about 7% league wide...ours is probably lower as we have 5 kids that only knew what a basketball it self was, nevermind how to dribble!


7%, god damn! That's lower than I ever imagined. You need to get some black kids on your team!

 

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This is one of those things I'm going to really struggle with when I'm a parent. I'll really want to strangle stupid people that do this kind of crap.




I can only imagine you are talking about the OP.




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I can only imagine you are talking about the OP.




rolling_eyes


No, I'm talking about idiot parents that think 1st graders should win at all costs rather than learn the game and learn their abilities. I used to ref 6th grade flag football games and we'd have parents out there yelling at their kids to tackle the other team or "kill them" and such. They'd yell pretty nasty things at the kids for no reason other than their special Timmy sucked and got burned. I have a visceral need to hit them.

 

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Immortal_Haze posted:
regulator_cracka posted:

I can only imagine you are talking about the OP.




rolling_eyes


No, I'm talking about idiot parents that think 1st graders should win at all costs rather than learn the game and learn their abilities.





Yes that is what I said, you are talking about abysmal, the OP, for encouraging his team to fast break repeatedly despite it being against the rules. IE not following rules and learning fundamentals but trying to win at all costs. No doubt trying to reclaim his youth by doing it.

 

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Yes that is what I said, you are talking about abysmal, the OP, for encouraging his team to fast break repeatedly despite it being against the rules. IE not following rules and learning fundamentals but trying to win at all costs. No doubt trying to reclaim his youth by doing it.



No, I agree with you.

 

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u need somebodys legs broke bub? I got a decent rate for new englanders.

 

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for the record...i couldn't tell you the actual score of any game this season other than the 2-1 game...yes, 2 baskets to 1 basket.
HILARIOUS!

and for the record, when i told my kids to break, it was to prove a point to the other coach, NOT to get a win.
hell i think we only scored on one of the two that didn't have a parent stop it.

and ya...north central MA doesn't have many brothers, and they sure aren't playing in a rec league! shock

 

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be involved with youth sports myself, I can really relate

Coaches are bad, parents are worse


Are there refs?

 

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Brandun posted:
be involved with youth sports myself, I can really relate

Coaches are bad, parents are worse


Are there refs?


The Refs are worse than any of them. Everyone knows that.

 

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Cuttlery posted:
Brandun posted:
be involved with youth sports myself, I can really relate

Coaches are bad, parents are worse


Are there refs?


The Refs are worse than any of them. Everyone knows that.



yes, I am told that repeatedly at these such said events

 

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christ.

you expect kids to learn a game when they can't even play?

lower the nets
get smaller basketballs
play half court

 

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I coached a little league team for a few years and almost got into a fist fight with an opposing coach, that was fun.

 

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Brandun posted:
be involved with youth sports myself, I can really relate

Coaches are bad, parents are worse


Are there refs?


coaches are the refs.
it's been an agreement that we call our own kids.
very few of us will call it that way though.
most of them will cry about the other teams everything and let their kids walk around with the ball.

most of the kids we will correct them, not just turn the ball over though.

 

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Cuttlery posted:
I coached a little league team for a few years and almost got into a fist fight with an opposing coach, that was fun.


that was me with hockey.
Coach was flat out telling kids to head hunt, this was 8-11 year olds.
we had set lines and if you were short players there was a matrix of who plays what shift...he flat out ignored that too.
then come to find out, his subs were all true #1's (best rated) and each team only has one #1. all subs have to be of equal or lower rating than the missing kid.

refs did nothing, league officials did nothing, then after one of my kids got laid out (kid who hit him was thrown out of game) he said "get up you little pu**y"

if it wasn't for the kids father shoving me out of the way to get to him, it would have been me beating him down.

 

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