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....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. 
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Glee certainly destroyed the stereotype that says sane people will not watch horrible TV shows.
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Glee certainly destroyed the stereotype that says sane people will not watch horrible TV shows.
You still in the closet, huh.
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Glee certainly destroyed the stereotype that says sane people will not watch horrible TV shows.
You still in the closet, huh.
never knew you swang that way R_C.
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I thought everyone in that show was supposed to be gay.
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I thought everyone in that show was supposed to be gay.
No, only three main characters that are "out", and 2 minor characters. But every lead vocalist from the all boys school is/has been gay. Way to shoot yourself in the foot while trying to promote tolerance.
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itt we learn that you are gay if you watch Glee and you are also gay if you do not watch Glee
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itt we learn that you are gay if you watch Glee and you are also gay if you do not watch Glee
At first glance that certainly appears like a no win situation.
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Is the kid in the wheelchair one of the gay ones?
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Is the kid in the wheelchair one of the gay ones?
Not yet, at least.
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So the show is getting gayer over time?
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....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
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....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
I figured you of all people would agree, cmon the lead guy now twice from Dalton is gay. The all girl school that performed last night does not have a consistent gay female lead character, nor is there a consistent all girl school represented.
Just seems counterproductive to continue to promote that stereotype while trying so hard to squash so many others. It seems to me to continue feeding small minds. If the boys school has a strong talented hetero, that is what is not expected.
Do you agree with continuing to exemplify what is "expected" by small minds in the show, but try to change others? It negates itself.
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....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
I figured you of all people would agree, cmon the lead guy now twice from Dalton is gay. The all girl school that performed last night does not have a consistent gay female lead character, nor is there a consistent all girl school represented. Just seems counterproductive to continue to promote that stereotype while trying so hard to squash so many others. It seems to me to continue feeding small minds. If the boys school has a strong talented hetero, that is what is not expected. Do you agree with continuing to exemplify what is "expected" by small minds in the show, but try to change others? It negates itself.
I think if they were perpetuating a stereotype they would have a school official messing around with the boys at the school or even more bullying/hazing at an all boys school which is what I think the stereotypes are than all the boys there being gay. Theyre far more serious stereotypes they could be perpetuating than that one. I think if anything they are breaking the stereotype by saying that Dalton has a 0 tolerance policy for bullying kids in general and it seemed like most of the gay kids were "out" at school and they didnt seem to make a big deal about it. If it were just a "normal" all boys school and they tried what theyre doing on Glee then yea it would perpetuate the stereotype but I think theyre projecting the "ideal" type of what they think an all boys school SHOULD be.If a few small minded people are going to take that as "perpetuating" the stereotype then I can live with that. People who want to see the bad in something are always going to see the bad in it no matter what. And people who want to see if the good in something then they will take it for what its meant to be. I mean lets face it, if you were a gay teen and you had the choice to go to an all boys high school or a regular one which one would you pick? LOL (it be like giving a straight guy the option to go to an all girls academy) My point is there are bound to be gay students at just about any all boys high school
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Have not heard of this show. It sounds dumb.
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Have not heard of this show. It sounds dumb.
Did you ever watch Cop Rock?
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or even more bullying/hazing at an all boys school which is what I think the stereotypes are than all the boys there being gay. Theyre far more serious stereotypes they could be perpetuating than that one. I think if anything they are breaking the stereotype by saying that Dalton has a 0 tolerance policy for bullying kids in general and it seemed like most of the gay kids were "out" at school and they didnt seem to make a big deal about it.
Are we watching the same show? Bullying?
First, when Blane was head of the Warblers there was no bullying or aggression demonstrated, so an all boys school not full of bullying, one of your points denied.
Second, now the new "gay guy" is head of the warblers has stalked and threatened porcelain and blane, almost put blane's eye out with rock salt, made numerous threats, and almost released fake photos of finn.
What were you saying about boys school full of bullying and Dalton having a zero tolerance policy towards bullying? Very contradictory to the show I watch or I guess the[y] save it for anyone else but them.
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The all-boys school has 2 gay kids in its glee club, and that's enforcing a stereotype?
Hell, just by basic statistics, there should be more gay members, given the size of their glee club.
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The all-boys school has 2 gay kids in its glee club, and that's enforcing a stereotype?
Hell, just by basic statistics, there should be more gay members, given the size of their glee club.
Those are the only two they have featured, we have no confirmed numbers. So no.
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How about their blatant re-enforcement of the stereotype that everyone in high school thinks that the glee club is a bunch of losers?
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How about their blatant re-enforcement of the stereotype that everyone in high school thinks that the glee club is a bunch of losers?
Rho
Actually that is one they are attacking in full force. If you watched the show and I am stereotyping you that you do not, they make the GLEE club look pretty awesome and HAWT!
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The all-boys school has 2 gay kids in its glee club, and that's enforcing a stereotype?
Hell, just by basic statistics, there should be more gay members, given the size of their glee club.
Those are the only two they have featured, we have no confirmed numbers. So no.
Wait, are you saying the sample size isn't large enough to support my claim? Wouldn't that mean it's not large enough to support your claim?
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The all-boys school has 2 gay kids in its glee club, and that's enforcing a stereotype?
Hell, just by basic statistics, there should be more gay members, given the size of their glee club.
Those are the only two they have featured, we have no confirmed numbers. So no.
Wait, are you saying the sample size isn't large enough to support my claim? Wouldn't that mean it's not large enough to support your claim?
They do not feature or even let any of the rest of that school talk to find out is my point. They only show the gays which is furthering the stereotype. Or do you support this?
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....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members.
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They do not feature or even let any of the rest of that school talk to find out is my point. They only show the gays which is furthering the stereotype. Or do you support this?
As was already pointed out in this thread, when Kurt met Blaine, he also met a straight Warbler.
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They do not feature or even let any of the rest of that school talk to find out is my point. They only show the gays which is furthering the stereotype. Or do you support this?
As was already pointed out in this thread, when Kurt met Blaine, he also met a straight Warbler.
Which no one remembers. The main talent coming out of the warblers are portrayed as gay, nothing else. Disturbing to say the least. It would just be nice if this season or next season they showed a featured warbler that is openly not gay is all I am saying.
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They do not feature or even let any of the rest of that school talk to find out is my point. They only show the gays which is furthering the stereotype. Or do you support this?
As was already pointed out in this thread, when Kurt met Blaine, he also met a straight Warbler.
Which no one remembers. The main talent coming out of the warblers are portrayed as gay, nothing else. Disturbing to say the least. It would just be nice if this season or next season they showed a featured warbler that is openly not gay is all I am saying.
so is it equally disturbing that nearly all of the cast of New Directions' talent is straight? I think youre blowing this way out of proportion.
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Could your trolling be any more blatant? Anyone who watches the show knows The Warblers are not all gay. Just like the The Troubletones are not all lesbians.
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The only warblers they feature are gay which promotes the stereotype that all boys school breed gays.
How is that trolling?
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regulator_cracka posted:
The only warblers they feature are gay which promotes the stereotype that all boys school breed gays.
How is that trolling?
Because it's ridiculous. Back when Rachel was the featured singer for Glee, did that mean all Glee members were jewish? If you're going to rag on anything, it should be the stereotypes for all the sports coaches.
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Just because a gay hater is too narrow minded to see it does not make it ridiculous.
Wow, way to stereotype more with the coaches. You are a real piece of work there.
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it is kind of ironic that both Dot-Marie Jones and Jane Lynch are gay irl who just happen to play coaches on Glee lol but its just a coincidence
Glee does even break that stereotype by marrying off Coach Bieste and letting Sue have love interests.
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I stopped watching around season 2 when the football player that was bullying Kurt all the time and threatened him, ended up cornering Kurt and kissing him.
The message was: Everyone who bullies gays, IS gay. 
From that point on, the show was far more about homosexuals than music. That's when I took it off the DVR.
It should air on the Logo channel only.
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I want to know why a straight man would be interested in watching that show.
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TheUnholyGhost posted:
The message was: Everyone who bullies gays, IS gay.
Another valid point, their writers do send some very mixed messages.
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That show is gay and is a disgrace. Glee is utter filth
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everyone that posts in this thread except me is super gay
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FineYoungCannibals posted:
everyone that posts in this thread except me is super gay
The numbers does not support that! 
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This discussion reminds me of this, from The Onion
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