Sansfear
Posts:
7,232
Registered:
Aug 31, '08
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 7,182
User ID: 1,318,423
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Yet another case of zero-tolerance idiocy.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/02/20/girl-who-borrowed-asthma-inhaler-expelled-from-school/
"For 10 days Breana Crites and Alyssa McKinney sat at home while suspended from school. The two were in gym class. Crites complained of trouble breathing, so McKinney lent out her asthma inhaler.
“I know what it feels like not to being able to breathe and I know how hard it is and I just took that into consideration,†McKinney said.
The two were sent home. Two weeks later McKinney was allowed to return. Crites however, was expelled.
“She should be back in school,†McKinney said.
“I think absolutely the suspension was appropriate,†Superintendent John Borman told CBS4 in January.
School policy forbids the sharing of any prescription drug. A letter to the students said expulsion was always a possibility. The school district did not return calls about why McKinney was allowed to return but Crites was not.
“The lesson that I learned from this is not to help people, because helping people is just going to get yourself in trouble,†McKinney said."
Administrators that hide behind zero tolerance policies regardless of the situation are cowards, especially when it comes to dealing with kids.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Yukishiro1
Posts:
38,362
Registered:
Sep 20, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 31,453
User ID: 718,633
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
There must be something more to that story. I dislike stupid administrators as much as the next one but clearly that wasn't actually zero tolerance because only one of the two was expelled, i.e. the two got different punishments. I can't imagine anyone would really expel someone who couldn't breathe because they borrowed an inhaler from someone else.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Altra_Shadowstalker
Posts:
17,553
Registered:
Jan 17, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 16,076
User ID: 616,837
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Yuki hates kids with asthma!
...and only dislikes administrators.
[face_Hitler]
-----signature-----
"Goddammit, Swearengen, I don't trust you as far as I could th'ow you, but I enjoy the way you lie."
I don't typo often, but when I do, I blame Swype.
|
|
Link to this post
|
the_great_ontex
Title: This is what cool looks like
Posts:
31,805
Registered:
Feb 13, '12
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 806
User ID: 1,438,403
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
I think there is something more to this as well
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
ZigmundZag
Title: Grammar Nazi
Posts:
25,948
Registered:
Mar 25, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 22,707
User ID: 661,552
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Yukishiro1 posted:
There must be something more to that story. I dislike stupid administrators as much as the next one but clearly that wasn't actually zero tolerance because only one of the two was expelled, i.e. the two got different punishments. I can't imagine anyone would really expel someone who couldn't breathe because they borrowed an inhaler from someone else.
The procedure for most districts is an emergency expulsion for up to two weeks while the school and/or district review the facts and make a final determination on any "zero tolerance" finding, meaning there really is no such thing as zero tolerance. It could be that the students had a different discipline history. It could also be that the students were actually getting ripped behind the bleachers. The funny thing about school districts is that they can't talk about an incident and are pretty easy targets of disgruntled children and their parents. Zero tolerance policies do result in a lot of stupid situations and I don't doubt that this could be true, but I learned a long time ago not to put faith into stories when one side can say anything they want and the other can't respond at all.
-----signature-----
"Take the cheese to sickbay!"
|
|
Link to this post
|
NuEM
Posts:
15,394
Registered:
Mar 2, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,662
User ID: 900,449
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
Once again I'm rendered speechless by an example of American stupidity. Seems to be an Anglo-Saxon fetish for overly harsh punishment over quasi-imagined crimes.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Jorrdan
Posts:
6,485
Registered:
Oct 19, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,432
User ID: 470,257
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
You certainly have to understand the intended policy behind this one at least. Can't have kids sharing pills and when you are "lenient" with one, then you set the precedent. And I agree with different punishments being out of whack.
That said, the subject says "asthma attack" while the article seems to imply "trouble breathing"....
I don't have asthma so I'm not sure the severity of the "trouble breathing" and if the girl could have been treated by being sent home to get her own, nurses station, etc., etc. Or if the easiest solution was just to use a friend's prescription. I do know that I've seen attacks and that's another story entirely in which case there is no question she should have shared it.
-----signature-----
Eh.
|
|
Link to this post
|
Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts:
25,187
Registered:
Dec 21, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 25,057
User ID: 568,022
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Jorrdan posted:
That said, the subject says "asthma attack" while the article seems to imply "trouble breathing"....
Yeah. We don't know enough here.
In a life-threatening situation this could be excused. Otherwise, there's no need to lend someone a drug like that. It can indeed have not-great side effects.
-----signature-----
In the immortal words of Socrates - "I drank what?"
"God you guys suck at the internet - how can you fail to locate porn?!" - Eternal_Midnight
"Knowing means nothing." - Fat-badger
|
|
Link to this post
|
NuEM
Posts:
15,394
Registered:
Mar 2, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,662
User ID: 900,449
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
Yeah just think of the terrible things that could have happened, like... well... I dunno you tell me.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
BubbleDude
Title: Perma-N00b
Posts:
16,792
Registered:
Feb 27, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 14,490
User ID: 774,875
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
She probably had trouble breathing because she was too fat.
-----signature-----
"It's much easier to just bitch on the internet than actually do something." - Altra_Shadowstalker
It probably came here in the first place because it did a search for "pedo forum." - Yukishiro
|
|
Link to this post
|
Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts:
25,187
Registered:
Dec 21, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 25,057
User ID: 568,022
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
NuEM posted:
Yeah just think of the terrible things that could have happened, like... well... I dunno you tell me.
A percentage of people exposed to inhalers... depending on the ingredients... can have panic attacks or nausea, or worse reactions like cardiac rhythm disruption and allergic reactions ranging from hives to breathing trouble.
-----signature-----
In the immortal words of Socrates - "I drank what?"
"God you guys suck at the internet - how can you fail to locate porn?!" - Eternal_Midnight
"Knowing means nothing." - Fat-badger
|
|
Link to this post
|
NuEM
Posts:
15,394
Registered:
Mar 2, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,662
User ID: 900,449
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
Yeah, like from peanuts. You guys really are crazy.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts:
25,187
Registered:
Dec 21, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 25,057
User ID: 568,022
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
NuEM posted:
Yeah, like from peanuts. You guys really are crazy.
Someone 'having a little breathing trouble' does not justify an inhaler and ANY risk associated. Thinking otherwise is just plain stupid.
If there was a life-threatening event, then yeah, try it and see what happens. You've got little to lose.
-----signature-----
In the immortal words of Socrates - "I drank what?"
"God you guys suck at the internet - how can you fail to locate porn?!" - Eternal_Midnight
"Knowing means nothing." - Fat-badger
|
|
Link to this post
|
Crackdoc
Posts:
6,681
Registered:
Oct 7, '05
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,609
User ID: 1,082,910
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
The correct response is "Oh, you poor thing. Can I have your stuff?".
NEVER share your drugs for free.
-----signature-----
People in the Middle-East: They Are ALL Crazy as BedBugs!!!
Erich Fromm: “There is only one meaning of life: the act of living itself.â€
Toss aside the paradigms of civility you hold - welcome the social dysfunction of tomorrow.
|
|
Link to this post
|
Kjarhall
Title: The Pungent One
Posts:
29,212
Registered:
Mar 1, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 23,233
User ID: 652,381
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
NuEM posted:
Yeah, like from peanuts. You guys really are crazy.
Someone 'having a little breathing trouble' does not justify an inhaler and ANY risk associated. Thinking otherwise is just plain stupid.
If there was a life-threatening event, then yeah, try it and see what happens. You've got little to lose.
This.
If that kid had some serious reaction to the medicine you can bet their asses would have been sued, so they have to cover their ass. That's why the policy exists, sad to say the kids safety is the secondary concern.
Blame our litigation happy society.
-----signature-----
You're a crazy moron*
*http://vnboards.ign.com/outpost/b22180/115147923/r115151508/
hah! true story tho i'm a woman an i even love boobs..how can you not??- HallowEve
|
|
Link to this post
|
NuEM
Posts:
15,394
Registered:
Mar 2, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,662
User ID: 900,449
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
|
Like I said you're crazy.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Rosaria
Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
Posts:
46,983
Registered:
Aug 22, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 44,486
User ID: 832,524
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
NuEM posted:
Like I said you're crazy.
Wait ten days then read what happened. Its very bad policy to make up your mind in the first blush of an /outrage story. That does NOT change the correctness of your assessment of Americans, however.
-----signature-----
"Them Bollinger Bands on the DJIA are starting to look like columns of projectile vomit." ~ Red Pill
|
|
Link to this post
|
Sansfear
Posts:
7,232
Registered:
Aug 31, '08
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 7,182
User ID: 1,318,423
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Actually, this is AFTER the 10 days. It is an update to the original story.
Both were given 10-day suspensions while they investigated the incident whereupon one was expelled and the other was let back.
So not only are they idiots, they can't even apply equal justice.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts:
25,187
Registered:
Dec 21, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 25,057
User ID: 568,022
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
Sansfear posted:
Actually, this is AFTER the 10 days. It is an update to the original story.
Both were given 10-day suspensions while they investigated the incident whereupon one was expelled and the other was let back.
I didn't read that. If they indeed PERMANENTLY expelled a student for that, then yes. Someone is completely sh*tf*ck batsh*t crazy.
-----signature-----
In the immortal words of Socrates - "I drank what?"
"God you guys suck at the internet - how can you fail to locate porn?!" - Eternal_Midnight
"Knowing means nothing." - Fat-badger
|
|
Link to this post
|
DemonicXH
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
News Editor
Posts:
3,822
Registered:
Dec 1, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 3,766
User ID: 863,352
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
I used to have asthma as a kid so I am curious to know how much trouble breathing she was having. If it truly was a serious issue and she couldn't breathe then the school is retarded.
Having an asthma attack sucks.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
smellymotor
Posts:
12,223
Registered:
Sep 12, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 10,539
User ID: 965,927
|
Subject:
Girl gets expelled for borrowing friend's asthma inhaler while suffering an ashtma attack
|
my friend was having A.D.D symptoms so i let him take one of my pills!
-----signature-----
smellymotor
Young and Free
|
|
Link to this post
|
