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Why do people think gas prices are so high this time? Crude Oil prices are going up but is that really why they are so high? Is it a result of increased demand? More economic activity tends to push up demand. Is it a result of artificial or precautionary limits on the supply of gas?

Just curious what people think is going on.

 

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OBAMA!


Just to save some time.

 

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Uncertainty in the supply? Speculation?

 

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Speculators gonna speculate

 

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Speculation
Hoarding resources today that will supposedly be worth more tomorrow
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Don't speculators impact the crude oil price? While high it has been a lot higher.

 

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Iran!

 

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The Stock Market.

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Speculators gonna speculate

 

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BUSH!


Just to save some time.


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Greedy profiteers are always to blame.
Especially when record profits are recorded on the heals of record prices.

 

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People like to drive cars. More people have cars than they did in the past. We have less oil than we did in the past. Gas is expensive. sad

 

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People like to drive cars. More people have cars than they did in the past. We have less oil than we did in the past. Gas is expensive. sad


The doesn;t really explain spikes but long term trends.

 

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Speculators are using fears about Iran to drive it up currently. Also the failure of the Canadian pipeline had some good rhetoric attached to it.

 

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Israel.

 

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Remember back when there were millions of gallons of crude pumping into the Gulf of Mexico 24/7 for months on end? Gas prices were like a dollar less per gallon they are now all through that debacle.

We're being played, as usual.

 

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There is a glut of gasoline, we're exporting more than ever.

Demand is down.

Because of that, oil companies are actually shutting down refineries.

Oh, darn, that decreases the supply. Prices go up! Stockholders rejoice!

 

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Inflation and sanctions on Iran. You haven't seen anything yet. Hyperinflation will be in full gear soon.

 

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dollar devaluation by the Fed, when it was tied to gold, $35 bought 97 gallons of gas or be traded in for an ounce of gold by the US government

$35 now doesn't buy that 97 gallons or that ounce if gold

*shrug*

 

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Good point Brother. When compared to gold gas prices are at all time lows.

 

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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Why are gas prices so high?


People are buying as much, or more, as ever. Why lower prices when demand is so high?

 

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Hyperinflation will be in full gear soon.


When?

 

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Iran stopped shipping oil to france and britain as a FU to the EU for the sanctions.

Eventhough iran is not a big provider of oil that move caused instability and extra reliance on the saudis to produce more oil than usual.

So the speculation is that oil will be more expensive.

 

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The United States is awash in gasoline. So much so, in fact, that the country is exporting a record amount of it

The country exported 430,000 more barrels of gasoline a day

United States is on track this year to be a net exporter of refined products for the first time in 62 years.

"You're paying $4 or $4.50 a gallon to run your rig, yet we're exporting the crap out of this fuel.

The drop was caused partially by the recession but also by the advent of more fuel efficient vehicles, higher prices and the greater use of ethanol as an ingredient in gasoline

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/gasoline_export/index.htm



United States is awash in gasoline and dumping it over seas ....100% all obama fault


 

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theredkay1 posted:
Desnoxvu posted:
Hyperinflation will be in full gear soon.


When?
Would like to know this as well, it might alter my investment strategy significantly.

 

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The United States is awash in gasoline. So much so, in fact, that the country is exporting a record amount of it

The country exported 430,000 more barrels of gasoline a day

United States is on track this year to be a net exporter of refined products for the first time in 62 years.

"You're paying $4 or $4.50 a gallon to run your rig, yet we're exporting the crap out of this fuel.

The drop was caused partially by the recession but also by the advent of more fuel efficient vehicles, higher prices and the greater use of ethanol as an ingredient in gasoline

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/gasoline_export/index.htm



United States is awash in gasoline and dumping it over seas ....100% all obama fault





laugh It took you longer than usual to get around to blaming Obama, but you tied it up nicely there at the end with all those facts and figures.

 

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Iran stopped shipping oil to france and britain as a FU to the EU for the sanctions.

Eventhough iran is not a big provider of oil that move caused instability and extra reliance on the saudis to produce more oil than usual.

So the speculation is that oil will be more expensive.


People keep talking oil prices but I am talking gas.

Oil prices are not that bad. Gas prices on the other hand are crazy high. There is a disconnect between the price of oil and the price of gas.

 

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Sin_of_Onin posted:
eodoll posted:
Iran stopped shipping oil to france and britain as a FU to the EU for the sanctions.

Eventhough iran is not a big provider of oil that move caused instability and extra reliance on the saudis to produce more oil than usual.

So the speculation is that oil will be more expensive.


People keep talking oil prices but I am talking gas.

Oil prices are not that bad. Gas prices on the other hand are crazy high. There is a disconnect between the price of oil and the price of gas.




Oh, in that case, Exxon. Got to keep the record profits rolling........

 

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There is a glut of gasoline, we're exporting more than ever.

Demand is down.

Because of that, oil companies are actually shutting down refineries.

Oh, darn, that decreases the supply. Prices go up! Stockholders rejoice!

We're exporting gasoline because our refineries do it cheaper than many others. That doesn't really have squat to do with the supply itself.

Mostly I'd say it's a combination of ramping up for the summer season, increased demand, and uncertainty surrounding Iran. I'm not sure what part if any that speculators play in prices at the pump rather than the cost of crude oil, but I suppose it's possible. It's just as likely it's a convenient scapegoat, though.

 

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According to some, high gas prices mean the economy is recovering!

 

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According to some, high gas prices mean the economy is recovering!


Really, can you be a little more specific?

 

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The more I think about it the more it seems like the rise in gas prices is a result of increased demand at the pump which puts pressure of gas reserves. The result is a rise in price to keep the supply of gas in line with the predictions made by gas companies months ago. The inability of the consumer to respond to changes in price in the short term gives gas suppliers an incentive to have these short term shortages that result in price spikes.

Inelastic demand is not a good thing in market economies and the gas companies seem to be very good at taking advantage of this lately.

Theoretically one company would be able to step in and address the issue but there is more profit in all companies letting it happen.

 

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Umm...sarcasm?



Just poking fun at people who blame Obama, yet have Exxon padding their pockets.

 

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According to some, high gas prices mean the economy is recovering!


Actually according to most economic recovery means increased demand on gas. Whether that leads to increased prices or not is another question.

Inflation in general is a sign of economic recovery, gas is easily the most sensitive item though.

 

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Umm...sarcasm?



Just poking fun at people who blame Obama, yet have Exxon padding their pockets.


Ahh, understand.

 

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According to some, high gas prices mean the economy is recovering!



You were accidentally right. How cute!

 

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Increased global demand, the closures of three East Coast refineries and Iran speculation.


 

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Sin_of_Onin posted:
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Iran stopped shipping oil to france and britain as a FU to the EU for the sanctions.

Eventhough iran is not a big provider of oil that move caused instability and extra reliance on the saudis to produce more oil than usual.

So the speculation is that oil will be more expensive.


People keep talking oil prices but I am talking gas.

Oil prices are not that bad. Gas prices on the other hand are crazy high. There is a disconnect between the price of oil and the price of gas.




Are you using the summer of 2008 as your reference point?

Since 2008 the US has greater capacity to export gasoline. This additional demand for US gasoline should push prices up.

 

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People keep talking oil prices but I am talking gas.

Oil prices are not that bad. Gas prices on the other hand are crazy high. There is a disconnect between the price of oil and the price of gas.




Are you using the summer of 2008 as your reference point?

Since 2008 the US has greater capacity to export gasoline. This additional demand for US gasoline should push prices up.


I would accept a spike in domestic demand to be a legitimate reason for gas prices to increase but that would also fit my theory that gas supply is artificially tight because tight supply serves the suppliers.

 

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it's a good investment and has relatively inelastic demand.

 

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Good point Brother. When compared to gold gas prices are at all time lows.



simple supply/demand and the economic laws of scarcity.


Despite more gold and oil being on the market now than there was back when the dollar was tied to gold, gold and oil are more expensive because there is more dollars out on the market than gold or oil

 

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"Be it contrivance or ecological reality the fact remains that the US economy is being collapsed on supply issues compounded with national debt destabilization.


It has been planned for. The US is going down. Washington is bought and paid for along this agenda. You will stand in line for food."



 

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The United States is awash in gasoline. So much so, in fact, that the country is exporting a record amount of it



Gasoline, not oil. Just means we have an excess of refinery capacity.

Oh, and you get huge tax credits for importing a bunch of gas, adding a bit of ethanol and then exporting it again.

 

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I still haven't figured out how the local places in my area price gas to stay competitive. There is a truck stop near us that has regular unleaded for $3.55/gal, and the Shell station that is literally right across the street from it just raised their price to $3.99/gal. I don't get it.

 

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