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Topic: Death Star for $8,100,000,000,000,000
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http://www.news.com.au/technology/lehigh-university-figure-out-how-much-it-costs-to-build-death-star/story-e6frfro0-1226275852491
Economics students believe they have figured out how much it would cost to build the Death Star. And it’s no wonder the Emperor appears haggard.
Members of Lehigh University in Pennsylvania believe Darth Vader’s boss would have to shell out a whopping $8,100,000,000,000,000. Or roughly 13,000 times the world's gross domestic product (GDP) to build one today.
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I hope American tax dollars helped to figure that out.
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We should totally take a loan and build one!
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Can we aim it at Tehran, Pyongyang, and Beijing?
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NuEM
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Is that the first or the second Death Star? How much to operate it for a year?
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A small chunk of change for a galactic empire
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NuEM
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I bet using the big laser is really expensive too. And gives people cancer.
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That does look expensive. But when you control a lot of different planets, each with varying degrees of wealth and construction capabilities, it's probably not that much overall. Not that he really dealt with it, but I wonder what kind of budget the Emperor had to work with. And he probably used a lot of slave labor, along with those contractors that got killed alongside the Stormtroopers.
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"Building one today" at our tech level is foolish.
A space empire with more advanced tech would be using things they consider "2nd and third gen commodity" tech as construction methods and componentry. Those are things we currently consider "state of the art", with an elevated price tag to match.
The whole point of building a terror weapon in any universe is that, compared to the cost of standard policing, it is CHEAPER and less human-resource intensive.
So at an advanced tech level, it probably cost the GDP/output of just a few systems to build. Otherwise, they'd simply build an assload more ships with the money.
Even if the problem was finding enough loyal personnel... that's also moot.
Star Wars showed a marked lack of understanding of econ in many ways, in that the damned station itself had a massive population of people. That's pretty damned inefficient, if the problem wasn't money, but rather that the Empire couldn't find enough people to man its machinery. They could have just used that staff to man hundreds of new star destroyers.
So no matter how you look at it, the station itself couldn't have cost TOO much. It doesn't make sense.
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NuEM
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The Empire used fiat money! 
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Even if the problem was finding enough loyal personnel... that's also moot.
Star Wars showed a marked lack of understanding of econ in many ways, in that the damned station itself had a massive population of people. That's pretty damned inefficient, if the problem wasn't money, but rather that the Empire couldn't find enough people to man its machinery. They could have just used that staff to man hundreds of new star destroyers.
Don't forget that the stormtroopers are clones (if the awful prequels have anything to say about it), so I'm sure the Emperor ordered a huge batch of them to be made specifically to man the Death Star. Even then, I'm sure they had more than enough people who'd be willing to volunteer to work on that thing (aka more money, career advancement, or possibly both).
ROTJ did have the Imperial officer mention not having enough men though, but it's likely the Emperor was speeding up the date which it could at least shoot stuff (aka during the Battle of Endor). Had he of given them more time to build it, they probably would've been at it for at least a few more months before it became operational.
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I thoguth they had outlawed clones by ep 4 so all the new stormtroopers were recruits.
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GrilledCheez posted:
I thoguth they had outlawed clones by ep 4 so all the new stormtroopers were recruits.
Same.
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Yukishiro1
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
GrilledCheez posted:
I thoguth they had outlawed clones by ep 4 so all the new stormtroopers were recruits.
Same.
Yeah. Stormtrooper in the original movies are not clones. I think you even hear more than one of them speaking in the mos eisley scene so you can confirm.
In the Zahn books set after the movies they start using clone stormtroopers again and apparently force sensitive people can feel there's something wrong with them.
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