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In 2010 14,866 Illinois teachers made over $100,000. The highest paid teacher in Illinois teaches PE and made $203,154. 760 Illinois P.E. teachers made over $100,000 not including benefits.

But, they want more…


The Chicago Teachers Union is asking for raises amounting to 30 percent over the next two years, the opening salvo in heated contract negotiations with school officials who are implementing a longer school day across Chicago Public Schools next school year.

Documents obtained by the Tribune show that in the face of Mayor Rahm Emanuel's expansion of the school day, the union has led with an offer seeking a 24 percent raise in the 2012-13 school year and a 5 percent increase the following year, the net effect being 30 percent.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-ctu-proposals-0217-20120217,0,6829485.story


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Does that include the combat bonuses?

 

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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture

 

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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture


Those numbers likely include administrators and school district officials. He is trying to promote the outliers as the norm, when the average salary for an actual teacher is much, much lower.

 

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let em have it, they deserve that and more for having to deal with shizheads like us... think about it

 

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let em have it, they deserve that and more for having to deal with shizheads like us... think about it

 

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let em have it, they deserve that and more for having to deal with shizheads like us... think about it

 

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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture


Those numbers likely include administrators and school district officials. He is trying to promote the outliers as the norm, when the average salary for an actual teacher is much, much lower.


most likely.....isnt the average starting pay around 30k for a college graduate, thats if they can land a teaching job

 

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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture


http://www.championnews.net/2011/12/12/top-100-teacher-salaries-for-2011-phys-ed-teacher-heads-list-with-203154/

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My brother taught in Chicago for a few months for student teaching.

He had more students get killed than pass in a few classes.

 

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combat_mage_sc posted:
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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture


http://www.championnews.net/2011/12/12/top-100-teacher-salaries-for-2011-phys-ed-teacher-heads-list-with-203154/

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How many total teachers are there in that area?

Why do you think its wrong for someone with a masters degree to make $100k+ after a few years/decades? Some fields hire for more than that with just a bachelors degree.

Republicans always say that if you want to make a lot of money you should work hard and get a good education. Teachers should be held up as a prime example of that, but instead you polirage against them because they tend to vote democrat and unionize.

 

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A lot of schools in Chicago are literally (used correctly) trash and a lot of these teachers deserve every penny they ever ask for.

 

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Public servants who only work part time don't deserve that much of my money.


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My mom is a teacher in a metro area (not Chicago wink ) and she gets "Hazard Pay" because she teaches at a school in the bad part of town. plain
Teachers here were just given a retroactive pay cut of almost 3%. Meanwhile the school board members make $36,000 for doing a part-time job. Uh wtf? A lot of the expense is the administration. In my opinion that is the area that should get cut first.

 

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combat_mage_sc posted:
Public servants who only work part time don't deserve that much of my money.


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Tsk tsk. That sounds a lot like envy and class warfare.

 

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_Gimpzilla_ posted:
combat_mage_sc posted:
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I did not see in that article where the teachers are making over 100k?

fck if thats the case ill go get my masters of education/teacher certificate and teach agriculture


http://www.championnews.net/2011/12/12/top-100-teacher-salaries-for-2011-phys-ed-teacher-heads-list-with-203154/

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How many total teachers are there in that area?

Why do you think its wrong for someone with a masters degree to make $100k+ after a few years/decades? Some fields hire for more than that with just a bachelors degree.

Republicans always say that if you want to make a lot of money you should work hard and get a good education. Teachers should be held up as a prime example of that, but instead you polirage against them because they tend to vote democrat and unionize.


The main thing is in the case of those fields that pay more for someone with a masters, it's because a masters degree is felt to bring a higher return, be it profit, efficiency etc. The higher education has a direct and quantifiable return. Whereas in government there is no measurable or direct correlation between a masters degree and a public school teachers performance or the expected outcome of the teaching. None. It is simply yet another instance government spending other peoples money blindly.

 

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There should be zero education beyond firearms/marksmanship and survival. When the world collapses it will be far more useful than science, math and english.

 

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End the government / union mobocracy controlled indoctrination centers and you will end up with actual teachers who will get paid what the market is paying. With a lot less administration overhead.

 

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End the government / union mobocracy controlled indoctrination centers and you will end up with actual teachers who will get paid what the market is paying. With a lot less administration overhead.
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Except don't Charter Schools offer that? They've failed miserably in all the reports I have read about them.

 

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Except don't Charter Schools offer that? They've failed miserably in all the reports I have read about them.


All of our education system is a failure so now we should just resort to anarchy and forget learning.

 

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The people that teach our kids and the next generation want to make more. The rich want tax breaks. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm at the end of the day who should get more money ?

 

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As much as I think teachers deserve better pay than they typically receive, it kind of stings and seems imprudent of people in these times to demand better treatment and pay when a lot of us would kill just for any job, let alone a rewarding career like teaching.

 

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As much as I think teachers deserve better pay than they typically receive, it kind of stings and seems imprudent of people in these times to demand better treatment and pay when a lot of us would kill just for any job, let alone a rewarding career like teaching.


One shouldn't be grateful for the opportunity to work for a living. I understand how hard it is for a lot of people but if you do a good job the people that pay you should be just as grateful to have you is all.

 

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