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there is no candidate running for President that wants to ban contraception.
Next topic?
My suggestion: our debt.
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Santorum does even if he won't say it.
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If they ban contraception does that mean more women will be into anal?
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I'd just be happy for banning the despotic use of other peoples money.
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"If you look at my voting record, I have a voting record that supports ... funding for contraception, both domestically, as well as internationally, and I would not support any law that would put any restrictions on that." - Santorum
Again, no candidate wants to ban contraception.
Next subject:
Perhaps we can discuss entitlement reform?
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Kordirn posted:
If they ban contraception does that mean more women will be into anal?
Hmmmmm... I'm starting to rethink my non-interventionist libertarian streak now...
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Anyone who is anti-contraceptive is pro-abortion. They probably just live in lala land and won't admit it though.
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"If you look at my voting record, I have a voting record that supports ... funding for contraception, both domestically, as well as internationally, and I would not support any law that would put any restrictions on that." - Santorum
Ron Paul sure has this big spenders number.
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Live by the sword die by the sword.
If you are running as a values candidate....
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"One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."
Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rick-santorum-contraception-6520438#ixzz1mafsSRHl
I think he's trying to play it both ways.
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Santorum is full of shit. He is on record as being in total support of STATES banning contraceptives. Has said publicly multiple times that contraceptives are evil, damaging to women, hurt society, and should be done away with.
He does the double speak shit, and some fools buy into it, but his agenda is clear. He is against all contraceptives, even condoms, and he supports them being banned.
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Taliesihne posted:
Live by the sword die by the sword.
If you are running as a values candidate....
Has nothing to do with values, and you know it. Abortion is a losing subject, so change the conversation to contraception. If you can't even get Insantorum on record for banning contraception... well then you have nothing.
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Even if he isn't going to legislate it, it's fair to take issue with the fact that he wants to talk about it.
Discussions about contraception are better left to your family and\or faith. I certainly don't want my President lecturing me on the evils of controlling my reproduction. Neither does my wife. I know Parents that don't want that message delivered to their children either.
It's a fair issue to take umbrage with it. No one forced him to run with it.
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-Espiritu- posted:
Taliesihne posted:
Live by the sword die by the sword.
If you are running as a values candidate....
Has nothing to do with values, and you know it. Abortion is a losing subject, so change the conversation to contraception. If you can't even get Insantorum on record for banning contraception... well then you have nothing.
The dumbasses at the RNC opened the can of worms and refuse to let it go.
Now they are whining because they find themselves on a hook.
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-Espiritu- posted:
Taliesihne posted:
Live by the sword die by the sword.
If you are running as a values candidate....
Has nothing to do with values, and you know it. Abortion is a losing subject, so change the conversation to contraception. If you can't even get Insantorum on record for banning contraception... well then you have nothing.
Republicans have pushed legislation that allows pharmacists not to dispense birth control if it offends them. Republicans are trying to push a bill that would allow any employer to remove contraceptive coverage from insurance plans.
They aren't going after contraception as a whole, because they know it wouldn't fly with voters, but, they are nibbling at it around the edges in the same way they have been doing with abortions for decades.
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-Espiritu- posted:
there is no candidate running for President that wants to ban contraception.
Next topic?
My suggestion: our debt.
Then tell Santorum to stop talking about it, and all the other meaningless social conservative twaddle and talk about the debt instead.
He's the one running solely on the social values platform.
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This is just such a stupid and totally manufactured topic.
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Why are conservatives so stupid. There must be some hidden evolutionary advantage to having them around.
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Aerlinthian posted:
I'd just be happy for banning the JEWS' use of other peoples money.
There's a cost associated with living in this country that transcends the individual. If you don't like it, move.
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SoBaKi posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
I'd just be happy for banning the JEWS' use of other peoples money.
There's a cost associated with living in this country that transcends the individual. If you don't like it, move.
Yeah! Also you better speak the same language as us to. If you don't like it, move.
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Groucho48 posted:
"One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."
Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rick-santorum-contraception-6520438#ixzz1mafsSRHl
I think he's trying to play it both ways.
 This guy could give Mittens a run for his money in the Talking Out Of Both Sides Of One's Mouth competition
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-Espiritu- posted:
there is no candidate running for President that wants to ban contraception.
Next topic?
My suggestion: our debt.
they don't want to shut off the flow of future idiotic voters.
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There are no candidates running for President that want to ban contraception.
The government requiring health insurers to pay for contraception is as dumb as requiring them to pay for lubricants. Of course we're already down that rabbit hole aren't we? Why do we even call it insurance?
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There are no candidates running for President that want to ban contraception.
The government requiring health insurers to pay for contraception is as dumb as requiring them to pay for lubricants. Of course we're already down that rabbit hole aren't we? Why do we even call it insurance?
The sad thing is that you are so stupid you believe this.
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there is no candidate running for President that wants to ban contraception.
Next topic?
My suggestion: our debt.
Aren't you Canadian?
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Insurance:
1.A practice by which a company provides a guarantee of compensation for specified loss, damage, illness, or death in return for payment...
2.The business of providing such an arrangement.
Why not just have government provide free contraception and skip the whole "insurance" game? Ironically we are just inches away from government doing just that, and miles from anyone trying to ban contraception... which is what Obama apparently is basing his re-election campaign on.
Good luck with that!
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Medical insurance covers maintenance and emergencies.
Contraceptives for women are often prescribed to address an illness. There is no way you can ever make a blanket ban on contraceptives. It is horribly stupid.
They can also be provided as a preventative measure for health reasons or social ones. Not to mention this saves the insurance companies money.
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contraceptives prescribed for health reasons have always been covered by health insurance the same ways other treatments have been covered. Healthcare providers have been using creative diagnosis for decades to make sure their clients get contraceptives under their respective coverage.
contraceptives are widely available and affordable in this country. Even in cases where they cause a financial burden, isn't that when Planned Parenthood provides equality of availability?
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We didnt get to that situation by electing the people constantly trying to make it harder to get contraceptives and defunding planned parenthood.
A similar stupid argument is that since taxes are historically low right now, why is anyone talking about tax cuts.
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contraceptives prescribed for health reasons have always been covered by health insurance the same ways other treatments have been covered. Healthcare providers have been using creative diagnosis for decades to make sure their clients get contraceptives under their respective coverage.
contraceptives are widely available and affordable in this country. Even in cases where they cause a financial burden, isn't that when Planned Parenthood provides equality of availability?
So now you agree that insurance should cover contraceptives. Got it.
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So now you agree that insurance should cover contraceptives. Got it.
how could you become so stupid just a few posts after you revealed that you understood the difference between contraceptives prescribed for health reasons, and contraceptive use in general (social implications). Did you not understand your own post?
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So now you agree that insurance should cover contraceptives. Got it.
how could you become so stupid just a few posts after you revealed that you understood the difference between contraceptives prescribed for health reasons, and contraceptive use in general (social implications). Did you not understand your own post?
The issue is the idea that your employer gets decide for you how this line is drawn.
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-Espiritu- posted:
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So now you agree that insurance should cover contraceptives. Got it.
how could you become so stupid just a few posts after you revealed that you understood the difference between contraceptives prescribed for health reasons, and contraceptive use in general (social implications). Did you not understand your own post?
Using birth control to prevent pregnancy isn't a health reason?
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contraceptives prescribed for health reasons have always been covered by health insurance the same ways other treatments have been covered. Healthcare providers have been using creative diagnosis for decades to make sure their clients get contraceptives under their respective coverage.
contraceptives are widely available and affordable in this country. Even in cases where they cause a financial burden, isn't that when Planned Parenthood provides equality of availability?
You mean the program that was just defunded by Republicans like Santorum? Brilliant argument. No one is trying to outlaw contraceptives, let's stop talking about it and look the other way as their availability is taken away.
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