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http://elliscountytimes.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/us-marine-killed-by-the-police-unarmed-and-in-front-of-his-children/
No questions or warnings? This cop needs some reeducation camp time.
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There is more to the story, but they should have used a taser or the bean bags before lethal force.
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MatrexMistwalker posted:
There is more to the story, but they should have used a taser or the bean bags before lethal force.
You obviously know nothing.
Marines are trained killers. The cop didnt have time to react when his life was threatened like that.
Nothing to see here
mive along
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Cop messed up.
He should be charged with second degree murder or manslaughter.
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Get real
A trained marine is far more dangerous than a 15yo with a pellet gun
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Murder, plain and simple.
What the hell, Cali, no riots? Did the Occupy movement take away your balls or something?
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"The union said Loggins could be heard uttering "irrational statements" after he crashed through a gate in his GMC Yukon about 4:30 a.m. that morning and left his two daughters, 14 and 9, in the SUV as he walked to the athletic field. Friends have said he frequented the track to walk with his children and read the Bible.
The union said the deputy is a 15-year veteran of the department and a decorated former Marine himself. He radioed dispatch to report a "child endangerment situation," the union said.
Other sheriff's personnel arrived and comforted the children, who said their father "had been acting oddly," the statement said. When Loggins abruptly returned to his SUV, he ignored orders not to start the car and instead put it in gear, preparing to drive "and further endanger the children."
The union said the deputy, positioned by the driver's window, fatally shot Loggins as he began to pull the vehicle forward.
"The actions of our deputy clearly prevented serious harm from coming to Loggins' two children and anyone else on the road that morning," union President Tom Dominguez said in the statement."
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Sansfear posted:
"The union said Loggins could be heard uttering "irrational statements" ... and read the Bible.
 
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That's what he gets for bringing an suv to a gun fight
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They train military police that if someone is coming at you with a vehicle it is reason enough to use deadly force. When I was TDY to security a few years ago one of the MAs shot someone who ran at him with a Motorcycle they were trying to steal.
The MA won.
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A black man killed by a cop. Nothing strange here.
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Sansfear posted:
"The union said Loggins could be heard uttering "irrational statements" after he crashed through a gate in his GMC Yukon about 4:30 a.m. that morning and left his two daughters, 14 and 9, in the SUV as he walked to the athletic field. Friends have said he frequented the track to walk with his children and read the Bible.
The union said the deputy is a 15-year veteran of the department and a decorated former Marine himself. He radioed dispatch to report a "child endangerment situation," the union said.
Other sheriff's personnel arrived and comforted the children, who said their father "had been acting oddly," the statement said. When Loggins abruptly returned to his SUV, he ignored orders not to start the car and instead put it in gear, preparing to drive "and further endanger the children."
The union said the deputy, positioned by the driver's window, fatally shot Loggins as he began to pull the vehicle forward.
"The actions of our deputy clearly prevented serious harm from coming to Loggins' two children and anyone else on the road that morning," union President Tom Dominguez said in the statement."
There you have it... the "union" is covering this up!!
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Z-Elder posted:
A black man killed by a cop. Nothing strange here.
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It is pretty funny to see Rakhir of all posters suddenly relying on the words of this man's union as to what happened.
I'm sure there's more to the story than just a cop blasting away at some guy getting into his truck with his kids, but I'm looking at what could have possibly justified the use of lethal force there and I'm just not seeing it, even with the cop's side of the story. He was acting erratically, knocked down a section of fence and wasn't responding to shouts from the police...NONE of that demonstrates intent to do harm. Maybe he suddenly went out to lunch, but last time I checked we don't kill people for that.
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It is pretty funny to see Rakhir of all posters suddenly relying on the words of this man's union as to what happened.
I'm sure there's more to the story than just a cop blasting away at some guy getting into his truck with his kids, but I'm looking at what could have possibly justified the use of lethal force there and I'm just not seeing it, even with the cop's side of the story.
The dude was black, hellooooo
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There just has to be more to this story. Something is not right. 
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ZigmundZag posted:
It is pretty funny to see Rakhir of all posters suddenly relying on the words of this man's union as to what happened.
I'm sure there's more to the story than just a cop blasting away at some guy getting into his truck with his kids, but I'm looking at what could have possibly justified the use of lethal force there and I'm just not seeing it, even with the cop's side of the story. He was acting erratically, knocked down a section of fence and wasn't responding to shouts from the police...NONE of that demonstrates intent to do harm. Maybe he suddenly went out to lunch, but last time I checked we don't kill people for that.
I just posted the quote to give a more detailed account of the incident. I don't see how it is justified, either. Their argument is that he was endangering the kids by driving away with them in his current state, but that doesn't mean you get to shoot him for doing so.
By that logic, if you are fleeing from the police and have someone in your car, they can shoot and kill you to protect the passenger(s) you are endangering.
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He has just crashed his SUV into a fence and then wandered off leaving his kids in it. Seems like they were justified in stopping him from driving again.
Why they had to shoot him I don't know. Why'd they let him get back in the car in the first place if they thought it was too dangerous to let him drive?
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Why'd they let him get back in the car in the first place if they thought it was too dangerous to let him drive?
There are conflicting reports buzzing around. I've read elsewhere that the marine had not entered the car; he was walking back towards it, and the officer "felt threatened", and so shot and killed him. I don't know which is the truer account.
The entire event does seem like suspicious stuff.
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If the man was attempting to re-enter the car, then the cop CAN assume he can go pick up a gun.
There is a video showing a man who did not respond to police commands, re-entered his car, and came out with a shotgun. Know what happened next? Killed the cop.
Of course there is a lot of context and backstory that we do not have information on so it can range from extreme overreacting from cop to a valid response to an erratic individual.
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So by your reasoning Aksa or w/e he deliberately baited the police by driving through a fence with his kids in the back!
BRILLIANT!
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The guy was clearly going kinda nutso. Doesn't mean it's ok to shoot him, but I don't think it's ridiculous they might think he had a weapon in the car and was going to retrieve it.
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He was all ready in the car and starting to drive away. Coward cop doesn't like his lawful orders not being followed and shot him from behind. Clearly a greater tragedy has been averted here!!!
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Seems like American police can only ever solve a dispute by using either a tazer or a gun. At least that's the totally unbiased impression I have after getting 90% of my infos regarding America from the Outpost.
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Hsi_Kang posted:
He was all ready in the car and starting to drive away. Coward cop doesn't like his lawful orders not being followed and shot him from behind. Clearly a greater tragedy has been averted here!!!
So he somehow managed to avoid shooting two kids in the truck AND got his target while moving and obstructed by the truck, seat and back window?
Say what you will about the morality, but that cop should definitely have his Marksman badge for life.
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Orange County Sherriff Department posted:
initially said the deputy fired out of fear for his safety; days later it said the deputy fired out of concern Mr. Loggins would harm his daughters if allowed to drive away.
CA law also says that the name of the deputy must be released to the public, apparently OCSD is ABOVE the law.
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ZigmundZag posted:
Hsi_Kang posted:
He was all ready in the car and starting to drive away. Coward cop doesn't like his lawful orders not being followed and shot him from behind. Clearly a greater tragedy has been averted here!!!
So he somehow managed to avoid shooting two kids in the truck AND got his target while moving and obstructed by the truck, seat and back window?
Say what you will about the morality, but that cop should definitely have his Marksman badge for life.
The union's account of the encounter mentions that, before the shooting, "[a]dditional Sheriff's personnel arrived and comforted the children in the back seat," something not previously reported. The union's version of the story also says Mr. Loggins put the Yukon in gear. "As the Yukon began to move forward he was shot by the deputy next to the driver's window."
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Cop needs jail.
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Sinlock posted:
There just has to be more to this story. Something is not right.
This.
I do question why if their were cops everywhere why the didn't just disable the damn truck though.
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