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Topic: Finally some sanity

Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/LAPD-Charlie-Beck-Impound-Policy-Immigration-Unlicensed-Drivers-139315048.html A state analyst's memo added another wrinkle to an already complicated issue -- how the LAPD should handle vehicle impounds. As the LA Police Commission considered proposed changes to the policy at its Tuesday meeting, a Legislative Counsel Bureau analyst raised questions about the department's proposed changes. The bureau, which provides legal opinions to state lawmakers, states that once an officer decides to impound a vehicle of a driver who has never been issued a license, the vehicle should be impounded for 30 days. That's in contrast to Chief Charlie Beck's proposal, under consideration Tuesday by the commission. Under current law, if an unlicensed driver is stopped by police, the vehicle is impounded for 30 days -- a penalty that Beck said is too harsh in some circumstances. If a person does not have a license, but does have insurance valid identification and no prior convictions, the police chief's plan would follow a section of the state's vehicle code that allows the owner to be cited, then given a certain amount of time to have the vehicle retrieved. The proposal only applies to first-time offenders. 0:25 of the video but critics say a 30 day impound unfairly impacts illegal immigrants who can't get a drivers license". -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Fat_wong Posts: 2,197 Registered: Feb 6, '07 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,137 User ID: 1,204,315	Subject: Finally some sanity
	repost -----signature----- (none)
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	? -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Fat_wong Posts: 2,197 Registered: Feb 6, '07 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,137 User ID: 1,204,315	Subject: Finally some sanity
	i dunno how else to explain my previous post -----signature----- (none)
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 36,223 Registered: Feb 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,592 User ID: 896,469	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Yeah, we've been through this before. It is too harsh considering drunk drivers can pick up their car the next morning. Until the law is changed so that you have to have a license to own a car, I think the state is overreaching here. It's a huge corrupt racket as well, which I have a huge problem with. -----signature----- Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Fat_wong posted: i dunno how else to explain my previous post This is an update with new information, someone is stopping their stupidity. Luckily when the law was passed the Legislature did something smart and included an intent in the bill, the 30 day impound is meant to be punitive. A lower authority, like a local police chief, can not makes his own changes to the law, the state issues drivers licenses and they are the ones who decide the penalties. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One Posts: 29,212 Registered: Mar 1, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,233 User ID: 652,381	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Taliesihne posted: Until the law is changed so that you have to have a license to own a car, I think the state is overreaching here. It's a huge corrupt racket as well, which I have a huge problem with. This -----signature----- You're a crazy moron* *http://vnboards.ign.com/outpost/b22180/115147923/r115151508/ hah! true story tho i'm a woman an i even love boobs..how can you not??- HallowEve
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	They just have to get a license or not be an idiot and get it suspended, it isn't an undue burden. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 36,223 Registered: Feb 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,592 User ID: 896,469	Subject: Finally some sanity
	It is an undue burden. I'm a tax-paying, law abiding (mostly) citizen. A 30 day impound bill would bury me. And I make an ok living. The impound is essentially a mechanism to transfer private property from one citizen to another. At the end of 30 days, if you can't pay the impound bill, they auction your car. It's an excessive punishment for a misdemeanor, citizen or no citizen. -----signature----- Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
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Bjorvald Posts: 9,251 Registered: Apr 5, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,849 User ID: 665,468	Subject: Finally some sanity
	It's pretty easy to avoid being in the country illegally and having your car impounded. I mean, you have to go waaaaay out of your way to have that happen to you. -----signature----- Bjorvald 9lx healer Blinknone, various toons on classic GANKED AGAIN
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Taliesihne posted: It is an undue burden. I'm a tax-paying, law abiding (mostly) citizen. A 30 day impound bill would bury me. And I make an ok living. The impound is essentially a mechanism to transfer private property from one citizen to another. At the end of 30 days, if you can't pay the impound bill, they auction your car. It's an excessive punishment for a misdemeanor, citizen or no citizen. Your insurance, if you had any, is not active if your license is not valid. If you don't have the money to get your car out of impound I guess if you have an accident the people you hit are really screwed aren't they, all because you were selfish and irresponsible enough to drive without a license. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 36,223 Registered: Feb 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,592 User ID: 896,469	Subject: Finally some sanity
	So if that is the rationale, why do drunk drivers get their vehicles back the next morning? Also, the insurance thing is a red herring. It's not relevant to the discussion. -----signature----- Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Taliesihne posted: So if that is the rationale, why do drunk drivers get their vehicles back the next morning? Also, the insurance thing is a red herring. It's not relevant to the discussion. Drunk drivers are not relevant to the discussion but I would give them an automatic 90 license suspension and impound their cars. Not having insurance is a big deal and another crime btw, others on the road don't deserve to pick up the slack because drivers without licenses don't feel the law applies to them. I love to hear people defend those with no personal responsibility. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Taliesihne posted: It is an undue burden. I'm a tax-paying, law abiding (mostly) citizen. A 30 day impound bill would bury me. And I make an ok living. The impound is essentially a mechanism to transfer private property from one citizen to another. At the end of 30 days, if you can't pay the impound bill, they auction your car. It's an excessive punishment for a misdemeanor, citizen or no citizen. If you have a license and it is suspended or revoked this doesn't apply to you, it only applies to people who have never had a license. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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sweeny_comodore Posts: 9,066 Registered: Aug 23, '07 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,113 User ID: 1,248,480	Subject: Finally some sanity
	Taliesihne posted: Yeah, we've been through this before. It is too harsh considering drunk drivers can pick up their car the next morning. Until the law is changed so that you have to have a license to own a car, I think the state is overreaching here. It's a huge corrupt racket as well, which I have a huge problem with. people accused of drunk driving can pick up their cars in the morning because they arent guilty of any crimes yet. illegals are, well, breaking the law by definition. -----signature----- Jesus? No, but there is indeed a god shaped hole in the heart of man, why is yours so empty? -- snarf igraine the original monotheism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
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