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Major Corporations are experiencing the greatest profits ever in the history of America.
Why aren't they hiring?
or if they are...
Why would giving them tax breaks create more jobs?
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CLASS WARFARE!!!!! 
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IMHO posted:
Major Corporations are experiencing the greatest profits ever in the history of America.
Why aren't they hiring?
They're hiring. They're just not hiring HERE. Because we subsidize the crap out of them to earn profits overseas, and hire overseas, while enjoying our protections, markets and infrastructure.
And also because we disincent even the 'patriotic' ones from doing so, by making the cost of labor and of doing business via multitudinous regulations so high it just isn't worth the trade-off when they can... (see above).
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^^^ that part is true... when conservatives talk more about letting businesses hire Americans and less about reducing the taxes on the idle rich, it starts to make sense.
Too bad the whole point of the Republican Party is to reduce the taxes on the idle rich while raising taxes on the working class, er excuse me, "broadening the base"...
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Companies are hiring as fast as they can. They are just hiring people at the market rate which happens to be a rate that most Americans won't work for.
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Hurray the market is going up!!! This means the economy is improving and getting stronger 
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STEREOTYPES
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paulg_68 posted:
Companies are hiring as fast as they can. They are just hiring people at the market rate which happens to be a rate that most Americans won't work for.
So we should tax them less and people will start to work for them at the market rate?
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Phlegm573 posted:
Too bad the whole point of the Republican Party is to reduce the taxes on the idle rich while raising taxes on the working class, er excuse me, "broadening the base"...
They must be doing a spectacularly bad job, considering nearly half of all Americans pay no income tax at all.
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Bjorvald posted:
Phlegm573 posted:
Too bad the whole point of the Republican Party is to reduce the taxes on the idle rich while raising taxes on the working class, er excuse me, "broadening the base"...
They must be doing a spectacularly bad job, considering nearly half of all Americans pay no income tax at all.
For one reason and one reason only.
Also, I am sure you just forgot to mention that you meant FEDERAL income tax. Because I'm sure you meant to remind us that the working class still pays payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest.
Because you're not just some dittohead sheeple.
Right?
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For one reason and one reason only.
Because you're not just some dittohead sheeple.
Right?
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Phlegm573 posted:
Bjorvald posted:
Phlegm573 posted:
Too bad the whole point of the Republican Party is to reduce the taxes on the idle rich while raising taxes on the working class, er excuse me, "broadening the base"...
They must be doing a spectacularly bad job, considering nearly half of all Americans pay no income tax at all.
For one reason and one reason only.
Also, I am sure you just forgot to mention that you meant FEDERAL income tax. Because I'm sure you meant to remind us that the working class still pays payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest.
Because you're not just some dittohead sheeple.
Right?
Don't forget about those old people. 22% of the people not paying taxes are old people getting social security.
They should all be shot. Plus the 50% of non-federal income tax payers who are making 16k or less... they need to stop being poor.
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IMHO posted:
Major Corporations are experiencing the greatest profits ever in the history of America.
Why aren't they hiring?
becuase they know things are going top get worse not better and having big cash reserves will allow them to ride out the government-made storm and still be around so that they can hire
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If they are able to meet demand, then why should they hire in a weak economy?
They are also waiting on a Supreme Court decision on Obamacare as noone will really know the true impact of that pile of crap until it is fully implemented.
If Obama is defeated and Obamacare is repealed, I think you'll see a considerable change in hiring practices.
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I don't know about big business but I know medium sized businesses aren't hiring like they could because with all the debate going on, no one knows if our taxes, licenses and many, many fees are going to go up, go down or stay the same. I'm thinking about opening another business but California is talking about more pollution control rules into place which always means a cost increase to businesses.
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paulg_68 posted:
Companies are hiring as fast as they can. They are just hiring people at the market rate which happens to be a rate that most Americans won't work for.
Unsubstantiated twaddle.
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paulg_68 posted:
Companies are hiring as fast as they can. They are just hiring people at the market rate which happens to be a rate that most Americans CAN'T work for.
Fixed.
Unless your goal is to make the United States a third world country.
You want to see an increase in the standard of living of every American, right? You do understand the net result, right?
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retail sales havent yet recovered to where they were in 2005
auto sales havent yet recovered to where they were in the early 90's
total construction spending hasnt yet recovered to where it was in the late 90's
Retail, auto and construction are your job creators.
Profits are hard to make sense of because they arent inflation adjusted and they include domestic and foreign profits. A hint of inflation + sales increases overseas + improved automation = big profits with very few domestic hires
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theredkay1 posted:
retail sales havent yet recovered to where they were in 2005
auto sales havent yet recovered to where they were in the early 90's
total construction spending hasnt yet recovered to where it was in the late 90's
Retail, auto and construction are your job creators.
Vote Obama in 2012! He's doing a bang up job!
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Typical mindless word twisting by the hate monger liberals.
Taking less becomes “subsidizingâ€.
People working 80 hours a week trying to become rich become the “idle richâ€.
Thieves become “patriotsâ€.
The problem is and has always been spending too much. The liberals try to counter that truth with attacks on the producers claiming the problem is they are not taking enough. “If you give us the ability to take more from them we can give more to you!†Pure hate and envy politics. And they wonder why liberal has become a cuse word.
This last slander is just over the top. That is that the rich old don’t pay any tax. I have news for you ignorant liberals; anyone making over a set amount pays an 85% tax on SS. Yes, 85%!
You act like you know more about business than those who make a living in business. If you are so darn smart then start a business. I’m sure of you start looking at the bottom line you will change your mind. Running a business is hard work; often with little pay and a lot of risk of failure.
Liberals just want money to spend and spend. It is time they were tossed into the trash bin of failed movements. It does not work and causes much misery and death. Making everyone equally poor is hardly a goal to work for.
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SoBaKi posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Companies are hiring as fast as they can. They are just hiring people at the market rate which happens to be a rate that most Americans CAN'T work for.
Fixed.
Unless your goal is to make the United States a third world country.
You want to see an increase in the standard of living of every American, right? You do understand the net result, right?
Thr rich dont care about the standard of living anywhere.
They are puppeteering their politicians to legeslate themselves an american peonage system.
The rich enjoy a high standard of living no matter where they live.
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Akza posted:
Don't forget about those old people. 22% of the people not paying taxes are old people getting social security.
STOP FOCKING UP THE TALKING POINT PLZ
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Typical mindless word twisting by the hate monger liberals.
Taking less becomes “subsidizingâ€.
Weird that this is the exact same mindset of the conservatards when referring to the tax cuts that were included in the stimulus plan.
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I know the term arglbargle is used alot here, but I think Fists post is the first time i've actually seen a genuine live arglebargle.
It's like he saw an imaginary post only he can see, and was responding to it.
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Walmart is always hiring.
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I know the term arglbargle is used alot here, but I think Fists post is the first time i've actually seen a genuine live arglebargle.
It's like he saw an imaginary post only he can see, and was responding to it.
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