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I mean come on, seriously man?
Obama proposes $800 million in aid for "Arab Spring"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/13/us-usa-budget-foreign-idUSTRE81C1C920120213
And it doesn't stop there. [face_palm]
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ITS BECAUSE HES MUSLIM
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What's the problem?
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If he was a Muslim he would be like the worst Muslim ever.
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What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ 
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Aerlinthian posted:
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What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Where were you when Bush was proposing to invade everybody on earth and escalating the budget for defense spending and other stuff.
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Aerlinthian posted:
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What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf page 3.
Seriously? 0.02%.
EDIT: To drag in Mithan's point as well... it's a hell of a lot cheaper than invading them. Just sayin'.
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Still less than a few days worth of costs of the War.
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"Anyone who knows what it's like to stretch a budget knows that at the end of the week, or the end of the month, $40 can make all the difference in the world," Obama -
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Everything according to some people here, like the OP.
I am not justifying this expense but for the "stop sending aid" and "close our embassy" crowds, you HAVE to understand that it is easier to bribe these regimes than allow them to topple. You think we have problems now? Wait until a nuclear nation like Pakistan has a coup. Wait until any of those Arab Spring countries goes leaderless and has unaccounted weapons. It will be chaos like we have never seen. That is the stuff you see in video games.
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Brib3es are very cost effective internationally, much cheaper than war.
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"Anyone who knows what it's like to stretch a budget knows that at the end of the week, or the end of the month, $40 can make all the difference in the world," Obama -
Funny you should mention that -- that was over a 2% payroll tax cut, or as a percentage 100x as large as what Aerlinthian is whining about. The correct figure is $0.40.
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Arc_DT posted:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf page 3.
Seriously? 0.02%.
So by this logic budgets are irrelevant (which would explain a few things..) and finite resources don't exist (hint; they do..).
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EDIT: To drag in Mithan's point as well... it's a hell of a lot cheaper than invading them. Just sayin'.
Mithans "point" is deflection which you full well know. You know what is cheaper than invasion AND aid? Not spending the 41 cents on every dollar that we don't have.
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I hear $0.40 a day can feed a starving african for a month. But hey, lets give that money to terrorists so they can buy more RPG's
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Aerlinthian posted:
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf page 3.
Seriously? 0.02%.
So by this logic budgets are irrelevant (which would explain a few things..) and finite resources don't exist (hint; they do..).
Arc_DT posted:
EDIT: To drag in Mithan's point as well... it's a hell of a lot cheaper than invading them. Just sayin'.
Mithans "point" is deflection which you full well know. You know what is cheaper than invasion AND aid? Not spending the 41 cents on every dollar that we don't have.
Mithan was a deflection, but a FUN one. What your logic fails to grasp is that we get something for that money. Mithan's quip was just one possible thing we get for it.
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What your logic fails to grasp is that we get something for that money.
Get? Get what? What have we gotten for the last 60 years of aid and interventionism? Hated? Poorer? Dependent? Empowered foes?
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What your logic fails to grasp is that we get something for that money.
Get? Get what? What have we gotten for the last 60 years of aid and interventionism? Hated? Poorer? Dependent? Empowered foes?
Platinum and other rare raw materials is what we have gotten for decades.
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Not killed enough of our soldiers for foreign interests for ya?
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I will join Muslim religion if I get $800,000,000 every spring. Sounds like a good deal.
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-Mithan- posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
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What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Where were you when Bush was proposing to invade everybody on earth and escalating the budget for defense spending and other stuff.
Regardless of what that idiot did BACK THEN, it does NOT give license to further stupidity TODAY.
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combat_mage_sc posted:
I hear $0.40 a day can feed a starving african for a month. But hey, lets give that money to terrorists so they can buy more RPG's
I don't think they like role playing games over there do they?
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“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.â€
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So by this logic budgets are irrelevant (which would explain a few things..)
You are now ready to run for a seat in the Senate.
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Where were you when Bush was proposing to invade everybody on earth and escalating the budget for defense spending and other stuff.
Aerlinthian was ALL for that. Its different though than it was with Bush, cause he supported Bush up until Obama took office.
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-Mithan- posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
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What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Where were you when Bush was proposing to invade everybody on earth and escalating the budget for defense spending and other stuff.
We were at the voting booth voting to change that.
Seems little has changed.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
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[quote=Arc_DT] What's the problem?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Where were you when Bush was proposing to invade everybody on earth and escalating the budget for defense spending and other stuff.
Regardless of what that idiot did BACK THEN, it does NOT give license to further stupidity TODAY. [/quote] You mean Aerlinthian? because despite his flip-flopping he hasn't gotten smarter.
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where were you when the tea party refused to extend the FAA tax that cost us 1.2 billion until they finally caved in?!?!
If we add all these pennies up we can solve all the problems!!
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end the wars, stop spending outside of our country.
been saying that since Bush 1...in the case of Bush 2, i was against occupation.
but i see the points above...it's so much easier to say *ya well he did it* and *ya well it's not much* 
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