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Headlines..
Iran government cuts off internet access as hardline regime makes a stand
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099549/Iran-government-cuts-internet-access-hardline-regime-makes-stand.html#ixzz1m2vd225P
Gmail, Google and Yahoo are all thought to have been restricted, and users have been unable to log in to their online banking. 'The interesting thing is that when asked, they deny the fact that all these services are all blocked,' an Iranian contacted by CNET said.
Alright, so what we've got here, as we had with Egypt and Lybia, is a western fueled color revolution taking shape using US tax payer funded cell phones and laptops in Iran. Paid groups of people organize massive protest gatherings as provocation for news worthy reactions. This "internet black out" is going to rally up the people against the Iranian government. I expect to soon see a false flag attack on protesters in Iran or some sort of violence played out there that the Iranian government gets blamed for. Four days ago Obama ordered the full measure of all relevant government agencies to direct their might against Iran. It is an executive order that names and invokes previous declarations against Iran as a national security threat. He invoked his special executive powers under the NDAA and authorizes full use of our military forces formally declaring Iran to be a Threat to US national security.
Bottom line-We're at war again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23uQr7TIMo
This is the C=SPAN video of his executive order being read into the minutes. As of today, dozens of US agencies are focused on destroying Iran.
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Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs. 
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Iran so far away
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Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs.
What's strange about that? I know my government lies as part of it's strategy. You should know that by now also. Iran is very open about it's stance and reaction towards social unrest. They execute people for it. So why would they bother claiming no involvement in their country's internet services being interrupted? Weeks ago they announced they were going to create an intranet that they would be able to control because they can't control the western servers in their own country. See? That's why, in this case, I find it reasonable that Iran isn't lying.
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"Iran's internet access being blocked. Iran government says it isn't them doing it. "
But you've just proved why they do it. It's for international PR. There is a substantial portion of the world population that absolutely hates America and Israel and would side with any nation against them if given a good excuse such as this... even a nation as loathsome as Iran.
Besides, why would America or Israel block the Internet of some Iranian commoner? It's not like their leaders can't get access.
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"Iran's internet access being blocked. Iran government says it isn't them doing it. "
But you've just proved why they do it. It's for international PR. There is a substantial portion of the world population that absolutely hates America and Israel and would side with any nation against them if given a good excuse such as this... even a nation as loathsome as Iran.
Besides, why would America or Israel block the Internet of some Iranian commoner? It's not like their leaders can't get access.
Few reasons. Black out for events planned to take place within the black out period. Such as rumors of violence that inflame public reactions. Public reaction against the Iranian government. A test run for communications control and backup system mapping(I.D any internet services not effected by this round of blackouts as well as the ways Iranians are getting around the event). I could go on and on about why it benefits our efforts against Iran.
Can you name one good reason that the Iranian government would have to stir up more anti Iranian government sentiment??
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Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs.
this.
it's always amazing to how illmyrin & co will find a conspiracy in anything put out by by a western style democracy, but will swallow anything and everything offered up by the most repressive governments on the planet.
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Israels doing it by mind control.
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs.
this.
it's always amazing to how illmyrin & co will find a conspiracy in anything put out by by a western style democracy, but will swallow anything and everything offered up by the most repressive governments on the planet.
I find it annoying that you're supposed to be a mod but do nothing here but fuel trolls.
EDIT:I guess you have other functions. Like Israel fanboy stuff, and hating America.
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illmyrin posted:
SirGarth posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs.
this.
it's always amazing to how illmyrin & co will find a conspiracy in anything put out by by a western style democracy, but will swallow anything and everything offered up by the most repressive governments on the planet.
I find it annoying that you're supposed to be a mod but do nothing here but fuel trolls.
EDIT:I guess you have other functions. Like Israel fanboy stuff, and hating America.
says the guy attacking the US while defending Iran...
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Can you name one good reason that the Iranian government would have to stir up more anti Iranian government sentiment??
No, but good reasons for them to cut off the internet for their people. Block outside sources of information and make people depend on inland sources (read: controlled by the Iranian government) and scream through all channels that it's some outside force doing it, so people won't blame said government. Convince enough of your people and you won't get social unrest and instead have them stand united behind their government the moment a war starts
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Iranian Government cuts internet for its citizens, claims responsibility.
Citizens feel anti-Iranian sentiment.
Government wants to cut internet again.
Blames the West.
Uses previous responsibility claim as an alibi for present cut.
Sheeple eat it up.
Who benefits from a general Iranian loss of information? Those standing on the side of freedom, or the government that literally stole the last election?
By the way, the US has admitted to cyber attacks on Iran in the past, so by your logic, the West couldn't have done it either or they'd have copped to it.
WAKE UP ILLMYRIN, THEY'RE USING YOU AS THEIR PATSY AGAIN!
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WHY DID ZIONISTS CUT OFF IRANS INTERNET ACCESS?
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Strange, you don't believe our government but you believe theirs.
Not really considering how many time the US government ha been caught lying so they could go to war and its history of internal interference in the affairs of other countries
But i do know statists do not like history all that much
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Iranian Government cuts internet for its citizens, claims responsibility.
Citizens feel anti-Iranian sentiment.
Government wants to cut internet again.
Blames the West.
Uses previous responsibility claim as an alibi for present cut.
Sheeple eat it up.
Who benefits from a general Iranian loss of information? Those standing on the side of freedom, or the government that literally stole the last election?
By the way, the US has admitted to cyber attacks on Iran in the past, so by your logic, the West couldn't have done it either or they'd have copped to it.
WAKE UP ILLMYRIN, THEY'RE USING YOU AS THEIR PATSY AGAIN!
Dear whoever you are(scrolling up to see your name in your blocked quote, nah) Let me address each line individually.
An individual inside the country confirmed this morning that Gmail, Hotmail, and Yahoo email are no longer available. Ditto for Facebook. So far, the government has not made any announcement about the service interruption.
But cyber-sophisticated Iranians are still able to circumvent the government by using proxy servers over VPN connections.
Iranian Government cuts internet for its citizens, claims responsibility.
Address: The ONLY quote used on the 15 returns for "Iran cuts off internet" report these exact words-"The interesting thing is that when asked, they deny the fact that all these services are all blocked," an Iranian contacted by CNET said. This individual asked to remain unidentified.
Let me point a few things about about this sentence. Within the various schools one learns advanced propaganda from it's critical to separate the thinking brain parts from thinking. When you wish to impress a concept into someone's mind, without their thinking acting as a filter, you use a confusing statement right at the end. Read the red highlighted sentence again.
Every single one of them is derived from a single unnamed Iranian source. Stories about the story are being produced in layers completely overrunning Iran's statements. This is textbook stuff here. A lie can go around the world twice before the truth has got it's boots on.
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Iran has "communication issues" just before their Presidential election.
What is more likely...
The United States or "those damn Jews" doing it or
the Iranian authoritarian government trying to prevent what happened after the last election when people used social media to cause a near overthrow of the government?
This is why people laugh at folks like you Ill. You take 10% fact and turn it into 100% horse shit.
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If you disrupt an election it could cause some unrest.
The last round of elections saw massive amounts of people on the street. If those people thought the government was up to something similar there could be an even bigger uprising.
We want regime change in Iran. I do not think we will pursue just one avenue to it.
I won't say we did this, but I won't say we didn't either.
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If you disrupt an election it could cause some unrest.
The last round of elections saw massive amounts of people on the street. If those people thought the government was up to something similar there could be an even bigger uprising.
We want regime change in Iran. I do not think we will pursue just one avenue to it.
I won't say we did this, but I won't say we didn't either.
Oh Gosh! Even more people in the streets! The Ayatollah surely must be shaking. Do I steal this election too? But people might protest!
Hey, here's a thought. What's one way to prevent news from getting out about election fraud? DING DING DING, its not increasing the value of gold, but cutting off the freest and most open form of communication. Then your news agencies can report what they want. Bit what if people still find out?? Gee, maybe cutting down their main avenue of collaboration which has recently proven to be able to topple governments? Nah, I'm gonna go with gold rising.
If anyone asks, just tell them its working. Or we could blame the Americans. Or the Jews. Or put out both stories. Who will question us.
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Allstarslacker posted:
If you disrupt an election it could cause some unrest.
The last round of elections saw massive amounts of people on the street. If those people thought the government was up to something similar there could be an even bigger uprising.
We want regime change in Iran. I do not think we will pursue just one avenue to it.
I won't say we did this, but I won't say we didn't either.
Oh Gosh! Even more people in the streets! The Ayatollah surely must be shaking. Do I steal this election too? But people might protest!
Hey, here's a thought. What's one way to prevent news from getting out about election fraud? DING DING DING, its not increasing the value of gold, but cutting off the freest and most open form of communication. Then your news agencies can report what they want. Bit what if people still find out?? Gee, maybe cutting down their main avenue of collaboration which has recently proven to be able to topple governments? Nah, I'm gonna go with gold rising.
If anyone asks, just tell them its working. Or we could blame the Americans. Or the Jews. Or put out both stories. Who will question us.
I love it. The major portion of my post was about Obama's executive order. With a video link from C-Span to prove it.
This is the sort of dialog we get from Outposters.
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Your link doesn't fit like you think it does in this situation. The Americans and "them damn jews" would benefit from a working internet in Iran far more than a non-working one.
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In whackadoodle land you foment revolution by cutting off communication.
In the real world you stop revolutions by blocking communication. 
You should probably read up on how controlling the media influences populations.
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In whackadoodle land you foment revolution by cutting off communication.
In the real world you stop revolutions by blocking communication.
You should probably read up on how controlling the media influences populations.
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Including our cyber warfare branch of the Pentagon*hint about the thread title*
You apparently think it's a pretty easy thing for our government to turn off the internets? For anyone?
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Including our cyber warfare branch of the Pentagon*hint about the thread title*
You apparently think it's a pretty easy thing for our government to turn off the internets? For anyone?
Who ever said anything about it being easy? Or cheap?
Impossible to do? Now that's a big fat no (remember I'm on your side of the fence here)
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