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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10364262-marines-posed-with-flag-resembling-nazi-ss-logo-in-afghanistan
So effing stupid.
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Guaranteed no Jews in that picture.
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um, that's the Scout Sniper logo - just so ya know...
has been for a long time
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after reading the article, i see that they mention that the flag is about scout snipers, not the nazis
but seriously, since at least the early 90s marine scout snipers have been using that logo in one form or another - even tattoos.
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aon_mixed posted:
um, that's the Scout Sniper logo - just so ya know...
has been for a long time
Yeah.
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look at their weapons for reelsies, SNIPERS
SCOUT SNIPERS
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aon_mixed posted:
after reading the article, i see that they mention that the flag is about scout snipers, not the nazis
but seriously, since at least the early 90s marine scout snipers have been using that logo in one form or another - even tattoos.
Then why do these Marine "leaders" in the article seem so surprised by it? Seems very odd that this is "normal" according to you but they are saying this in unacceptable.
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the only idea that I can come up with is that the current administration is too much of a group of pussies to tell the media to fcuk off, this is their logo... fugeddaboutit
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the only idea that I can come up with is that the current administration is too much of a group of pussies to tell the media to fcuk off, this is their logo... fugeddaboutit
Ok, that sounds about right then because they really act surprised by their wording. Pussies! Why would you need to "investigate" if you now wtf is up.
Sad.
*Or more accurately everyone is such pc whiny bitches who want to complain about every damn thing today.
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Manipulating media is manipulating.
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i mean, when it comes to image, even the commandant of the marine corps has to suck hind tit once in a while
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That is not a swastika.
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That is not a swastika.
How'd you get swastika from SS logo?
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Gilligan.USCG posted:
Reapist posted:
That is not a swastika.
How'd you get swastika from SS logo?
Read this part again and it will be explained: [quote=Reapist]
I have no idea either.
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Manipulating media is manipulating.
There's no manipulation or conspiracy here, all the news is doing is covering their ass by not playing devil's advocate for what very much resembles a Nazi symbol. I don't know if you'll ever realize that the MMS networks are businesses first and foremost, or you'll stick to the whole "malicious, focused propaganda machines".
Considering the public position the Army has taken (the symbol is not acceptable) there's no need to defend its use in a basic story summary article.
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Ya, but are they Moon Nazis?
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look, this is a stupid story about a vector graphic of the letter S
should the scout snipers have used comic sans for the font?
i mean City of Heroes was banned for release in germany because of the law they have their that explicitly forbades the public display of Nazi regalia.
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scout sniper symbol resembles ss symbol
i remember seeing a guy with that tattoo and thinking he was a skinhead until someone explained it to me
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look, this is a stupid story about a vector graphic of the letter S
should the scout snipers have used comic sans for the font?
i mean City of Heroes was banned for release in germany because of the law they have their that explicitly forbades the public display of Nazi regalia.
They should have used anything but lightning bolt symbols that look exactly the same as the SS's, except for slightly different angles.
US Soldiers are also diplomats/representatives to the world, using imagery like this is a no-no.
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Wow, only took the liberal media 30+ years to figure this one out.
The lightning bolt stylized SS has been the Marine Scout Sniper symbol for a long time.
Obama has an election coming up. Time to demonize the troops!
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levgre posted:
aon_mixed posted:
look, this is a stupid story about a vector graphic of the letter S
should the scout snipers have used comic sans for the font?
i mean City of Heroes was banned for release in germany because of the law they have their that explicitly forbades the public display of Nazi regalia.
They should have used anything but lightning bolt symbols that look exactly the same as the SS's, except for slightly different angles.
US Soldiers are also diplomats/representatives to the world, using imagery like this is a no-no.
oh bullcrap, this isnt about someone using a logo maliciously, get off your soap box.
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oh wow, a lightning bolt now THE VERY THING THAT COMES FROM THE SKY is now a forever eternal symbol of jewicidie... get teh fsck outa here
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levgre posted:
aon_mixed posted:
look, this is a stupid story about a vector graphic of the letter S
should the scout snipers have used comic sans for the font?
i mean City of Heroes was banned for release in germany because of the law they have their that explicitly forbades the public display of Nazi regalia.
They should have used anything but lightning bolt symbols that look exactly the same as the SS's, except for slightly different angles.
US Soldiers are also diplomats/representatives to the world, using imagery like this is a no-no.
So you are insinuating that any US soldier would choose to associate themselves with the SS and leadership would allow this?
Or perhaps they picked something they thought looked cool and went with it. Do you realize how long ago that was and how old soldiers today are? I seriously doubt anyone of them, even in the 90s, has any clue what a ss symbol looks like or what it is. A swastika? Maybe.
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So what you're saying is, U.S. soldiers are stupid as hell and don't know common history.
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oh wow, a lightning bolt now THE VERY THING THAT COMES FROM THE SKY is now a forever eternal symbol of jewicidie... get teh fsck outa here
thats right, the SS only killed jews. GET THE F OUT OF HERE
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I never once stated they were using the symbol maliciously, you are getting too riled up. But the use of the symbol is improper, either way.
It's likely they were not aware they were basically copying the SS. Or, even if aware, most people don't take into consideration other peoples' sensibilities.
The other small possibility is that there were some anti-Semitics in that first brainstorming session, but that is impossible to know and irrelevant now.
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history is only written by the winners, to the people we are occupying we practically are the SS in their Eyes. if we end up losing somehow and the muslim extremists manage to take over and rule the world in 50 years that logo is likely to be akin to the evil that is associated with the SS. its all about perspective, just like its retarded to change a logo just because a similar logo has a negative connotation with it.
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history is only written by the winners, to the people we are occupying we practically are the SS in their Eyes. if we end up losing somehow and the muslim extremists manage to take over and rule the world in 50 years that logo is likely to be akin to the evil that is associated with the SS. its all about perspective, just like its retarded to change a logo just because a similar logo has a negative connotation with it.
This isn't history, there are still people alive today who were hunted down or otherwise affected by the Nazis and their secret police.
It's not like they were using a symbol for Genghis Khan's Golden Horde.
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So what you're saying is, U.S. soldiers are stupid as hell and don't know common history.
No, just youth in general these days. Yeah go talk to a few about history. Sadly that does encompass many soldiers.
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I don't know anything about the military or the rank system they use, but my guess is officers would be the smartest out of the whole bunch, since they actually had to learn military history and all that stuff in a classroom.
I have no idea how a person could really be an effective soldier if they never bothered to learn from history, but I suppose the grunts don't need to be smart, only disciplined and ferocious.
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In prison the Nazi Low Riders use the Lightning Bolts as their marking tattoo.
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why is this even news? last i heard the SS was disbanded. why does it matter if some other group wants to use a similar logo?
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I looked all over the net I didn't see this as a Marine Corps Sniper School logo anywhere, found plenty of other ones though.
 
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And Gene for one, is one of the biggest jews you will ever meet. I guess he is a nazi too.
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And Gene for one, is one of the biggest jews you will ever meet. I guess he is a nazi too.
wow yeah, you're right. I see no difference between that kiss logo and the SS bolts symbol.
/sarcasm
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only half nazi i guess
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And Gene for one, is one of the biggest jews you will ever meet. I guess he is a nazi too.
Ignorance is bliss, my Dad was not in Kiss he was in the Marines in WWII, and I am pretty sure he would not appreciate seeing some of his fellow Marines using that symbol.n Nor I believe would any WWII veterans that I have known over the years.
Here is a bit on Kiss history for you.
Icon 102 posted 28 September, 2002 05:41 PM Edit/Delete post Reply with quote I talked about this a bit in my book about the band, Black Diamond (how's that for a plug?). [Wink] As Silas mentioned above, it had more to do with style than meaning.
The band was looking for a good logo back in 1973 - one that would stick in people's minds - and the "SS" symbol certainly was one that people would remember. Ace Frehley, the lead guitarist, was the one who came up with the logo featuring the "lightning bolt" lettering, which was then modified by guitarist Paul Stanley. It has been mentioned recently (most noticably in the 1997 book, KISS THIS!) that Frehley was/is a collector of Nazi artifacts; even so, there is really no basis to believe that Frehley - hired into the band by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, both of whom are Jewish (and of which Simmons' mother had been a concentration camp survivor) - would have been influential enough to convince the others to become "nazis." All evidence points to the band using it merely for shock value alone (perhaps also as a reference to a tough, biker image, as the symbol was commonly seen in the late 1960s/early 19702 in association with bikers . . . or at least the image of bikers). There was certainly nothing in the music to suggest that the band ever were nazis, either.
Loud, silly, perhaps arrogant even, could be argued, but hardly nazis. [Big Grin]
The logo, surprisingly enough, never caused problems for the band when selling their albums in West Germany UNTIL 1980. The band was just about to tour West Germany when a whole brouhaha started over a political campaign in the country that used the Nazi "SS" symbol. When the politician fined for using it complained that KISS was able to use a similar image with no ruckus, the government called for the banning of KISS' albums.
KISS and Casablanca didn't want to lose out on what appeared to be a successful tour, and bent over backwards to settle the situation by thereafter releasing the catalog of albums with a revised KISS logo -- this one featuring what fans and collectors commonly refer to as "backward Z's."
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Yeah if you add a K and an I in front of the SS it become magically inoffensive, imagine that.
Changing a symbol changes its meaning, who'da thunk it.
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other nazis
Acronym Definition
SS Self-Service
SS Steam Ship (nautical vessel designation; also see MS for motor ship)
ss Scilicet (Latin: to Wit, Namely)
SS Schutzstaffeln (WWII, German)
SS Social Security
SS Stainless Steel
SS Secret Service
SS Same Size
SS Sample Size
SS Social Science
SS Social Studies
SS Secondary School
SS Solid State
SS Social Services
SS Saints
SS Solar System
SS Screen Shot
SS Steady State (control systems engineering)
SS Safe and Secure
SS Space Station
SS Search String
SS Screen Saver
SS San Sebastián
SS Space Systems
SS Spread Spectrum
SS State School (Australia)
SS Security Service (MI5)
SS Solid Surface
SS Space Shuttle
SS Sega Saturn (game machine)
SS So Sorry
SS Special Service
SS Software Support
SS So Sweet
SS Special Stage
SS Sassari (Sardinia, Italy)
SS Submarine (conventional)
SS Stack Segment
SS Senior School
SS Sea Salt
SS Spreadsheet
SS Sommersemester (German: summer semester)
SS Starship (science fiction)
SS System Support
SS Secret Society
SS Slow Start
SS System Status
SS Safety Systems
SS Suspended Solids
SS Safe Sex
SS Steven Spielberg (director)
SS Semis (Latin: One Half)
SS Samurai Sword
SS Swedish Standards
SS Southend-On-Sea (British postcode)
SS Southend On Sea (postcode, United Kingdom)
SS Sandstorm (METAR weather)
SS Svensk Standard (Swedish Standard)
SS Special Studies
SS Selective Service
SS Score Sheet
SS Sammy Sosa (baseball)
SS Spongebob Squarepants (cartoon)
SS Sliding Scale
SS Systemic Sclerosis
SS Stepside (type of truck bed)
SS Slim Shady (Eminem albumn)
SS Solid Snake (gaming, Metal Gear Solid character)
SS Spousal Support
SS Source Selection
SS Slip Stitch (crochet)
SS Sworn Statement (Notary Public-Vital Statistics on certified copies of documents)
SS System Shock (computer game)
SS Sylvia Saint (adult film star)
SS Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (book by J. K. Rowling)
SS Sa Sainteté (French: His/Her Holiness)
SS Sports Sedan (automobile)
SS Southshore (World of Warcraft gaming)
SS Step-Son
SS Switching System
SS Software Specification
SS Semisolid (pharmaceutics)
SS Steve Spurrier (football coach)
SS Soprano Saxophone
SS Station Service (802.11 WLAN)
SS System Specification
SS Sweet Surrender
SS Secular Society
SS Spy Sweeper (Webroot)
SS Salmon Sperm (carrier DNA)
SS Slave Select (electronics)
SS Sua Santità (Italian: His Holiness)
SS Sea State
SS System Summary
SS Scout Sniper (USMC)
SS Secret Squirrel (Hanna-Barbera cartoon)
SS Special Skill (Gunbound game)
SS Secondary Storage
SS Start to Start
SS Safety Stock (inventory control system)
SS Self-Snoop (computing)
SS SpineShank (band)
SS Standard Score
SS Souvenir Sheet (philately)
SS Systems and Structures
SS Sprint Spectrum (PCS)
SS Stoomschip (Dutch)
SS Spike Spiegel (anime series Cowboy Bebop character)
SS Status Signal
SS Samurai Spirits (SNK video game)
SS Starsiege (Dynamix game)
SS Sinister Strike (gaming, World of Warcraft)
SS Special Source
SS Sláturfélag Suðurlands (Icelandic farmers cooperative)
SS Sonic Screwdriver (fictional device; Doctor Who)
SS Saint Scholastica
SS Sell Stop (trading markets; stocks, bonds, commodities)
SS Sub Space (online game)
SS Secure Seal (anti-fraud technology used by banks)
SS State Ship
SS Staff Specialist
SS System Supervisor
SS Systems-of-Systems
SS Sonic Shuffle (Sega game)
SS Strong Sad (cartoon character)
SS Specific Specification
SS Satellite-Switched
SS Slick Shoes (band)
SS Section Secretary (Order of the Arrow, Boy Scouts of America)
SS Systems Simulator
SS Swing Space (Pentagon Renovation Project)
SS Sourcing Specialist
SS Segment Specification
SS Selective Signaling
SS Scoville Scale (measure of chili hotness)
SS Starshell
SS Soulstone (gaming, World of Warcraft)
SS Sample Station
SS Shadowstep (gaming, World of Warcraft)
SS Shriek Show (DVD supplier)
SS Service/Segment (Bellcore)
SS Seismic Stability
SS Select Standby (RS-449)
SS Society of St. Sulpice (The Sulpicians; religious order)
SS Staatsspoor (former railway station in The Hague)
SS Security and Safeguards
SS Submarine Qualified
SS Star Syndicate (Newgrounds group)
SS Stefano Silvestri (Italian Undersecretary of Defense)
SS SwiftSwitch (RuneScape toolkit)
SS Savage Species (roleplaying games, Dungeons & Dragons)
SS Saint Saiya (anime/Manga)
SS Skyshrine (Everquest, gaming)
SS Systematic Sclerosis
SS Spacely Sprockets
SS Summoned Skull (Yu-Gi-Oh! card)
SS Scleral Spur (ophthalmology)
SS Saradomin Sword (RuneScape; online game)
SS Sector Suite (FAA positions at an ARTCC)
SS Simplex Signaling
SS Sakura Star (website)
SS Super Saiyan Saiyajin (Dragon World game)
SS Synthetic Substitution
SS Super Solenoid (anime; aka S2 or S^2)
SS Storage to Storage Instruction
SS Samurai Showdown/Samurai Spirits (SNK game)
SS Sprite Show (webcomic)
SS Superfund Surcharge
SS Sistematico de Sangre (Spanish: Complete Blood Count)
SS Suplex Slam (wrestling move)
SS Sorry, Sloppy
SS Sweep Select
SS Stormwind Stockades (gaming, World of Warcraft)
SS Scanner Subsystem
SS Scribe Sheet
SS Support System/Subsystem
SS Spartan Sniper (FPS gaming)
SS Suspended Solid weight
SS Steam Stat
SS Sahel Solidarité (Burkina Faso)
SS Stonnington Symphony (Melbourne, Australia)
SS Soldier's System
SS SlashStab (gaming clan)
SS Source & Special Material
SS Subnet Sweep
SS SnarkStaff (gaming clan)
SS Switch and Signaling
SS Swallow Sidecars Ltd (eventually became Jaguar)
SS Safety/Security Interface
SS StaidSoft
SS Sólo Salas (Spanish)
SS Supplementary Services
SS Stunt Squad
SS Sewage Sludge
SS Super Shadow (Sega Superstars character)
SS Ski School
SS Sunshine
SS Shell Script
SS Shiv Sena (Indian political party)
SS Stress-Susceptible (pig genetics)
SS Submersible Ship (submarine)
SS Short Stop (baseball/softball position)
SS Success Sharing
SS Suction Side (of turbine/compressor blade)
SS Single Shot
SS Shoulder Spica (cast)
SS Shift Solenoid (automotive part)
SS Silver Surfer
SS Summerslam (WWF Wrestling event held in August)
SS Supersonic
SS Surround Sound
SS Stock Summary (inventory)
SS Signal Service (Great Britain, World War One branch of the Royal Engineers)
SS Subspace (gaming)
SS Severus Snape (Harry Potter character)
SS Server Statistics (gaming)
SS Single Strand (DNA)
SS Slash's Snakepit (band)
SS Settleable Solids
SS Sims Superstar (game)
SS Skeptics Society
SS Serta Sheep
SS Sharepoint Server (Microsoft)
SS Storage Server (for HPSS)
SS Slushie Slinger (gaming)
SS Stuffed Seconds (Cisco)
SS Stop State
SS Sig Sauer (German pistol)
SS Shift Supervisor
SS Super Small
SS Super Shot
SS Shining Soul (game)
SS Stockpile Surveillance (US DOE)
SS Support Software
SS Single Speed (bicycles)
SS Shortland Street (New Zealand TV soap opera)
SS Supervisory System (SONET)
SS Shared Services (IBM)
SS Suitable Substitute (US DoD)
SS Six Sigma
SS Storm Shield (Diablo 2 game)
SS Super Star
SS Susceptibility
SS Suicide Silence (band)
SS Strategic Sourcing
SS Surface to Surface
SS Supraspinatus (muscle)
SS Supervisory Skills
SS Service Sink (construction plans; plumbing)
SS Survivor Series (WWF PPV event)
SS Simulator System
SS Subordinate System
SS Sum of Squares
SS Sunday School
SS Super Sport
SS Supersede
SS Supply Support
SS Surface Search
SS Surveillance Station
SS Strip Search
SS Strong Safety (football)
SS Structural Steel
SS Suicide Squad (Quake 3 clan)
SS Sunset
SS Sub-Sonic
SS Super Sonic
SS Shelter Supervisor
SS Shetland Sheepdog
SS Short Stuff
SS Shortstop (baseball)
SS Signal Simulator
SS Signaling System (telecommunications)
SS Silver Star
SS Simmer Stat
SS Single Sided
SS Single Source
SS Sire Summary
SS Sjogren's Syndrome
SS Ship Service
SS Session Service
SS Sickle Cell Disease (genetics)
SS Sezary Syndrome
SS Suburban Service (Canadian post)
SS Sesame Street
SS Severn School (Severn High School)
SS Single Strength
SS Support Strategy
SS Serious Sam (game)
SS Subsystem Specification
SS Sure, Sure
SS Side, Side (geometry)
SS Shared Slot
SS Seventh Son (book)
SS Ship's Service
SS Site Safety
SS Stone Soup (comic)
SS Sidewalk Slam (band)
SS Serial Slayer
SS Shift Superintendent
SS Service System (Bellcore)
SS Shoulder Stretch (stretching exercises)
SS Stockpile Stewardship
SS Steyr Scout (Counter-Strike, gaming)
SS Street Sharks (cartoon)
SS Sister Sledge (band)
SS Single Signal
SS Super Scalar
SS Slash Shot (Gunz the Duel videogame)
SS SummerSlam (WWF PPV event)
SS Super Stock (racing category)
SS Separate School (Toronto Catholic District School Board, Canada)
SS Short Stature
SS Stromile Swift (NBA Player)
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Terminius_Est posted:
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Wow, only took the liberal media 30+ years to figure this one out.
The lightning bolt stylized SS has been the Marine Scout Sniper symbol for a long time.
Obama has an election coming up. Time to demonize the troops!
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Actually ikko is the opposite of okki
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ppl try too hard to find things to be offensive about.
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I find this highly amusing, that if a rock band does it, who dress in full face paint like a bunch of freakasoids then that is ok if the US Marines do it too.
I mean what next, ok if they dress like the NY DOlls?  We can call them the Sniper Dolls, and they can use a pair of crossed lipsticks for their symbol
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Wow, only took the liberal media 30+ years to figure this one out.
The lightning bolt stylized SS has been the Marine Scout Sniper symbol for a long time.
Obama has an election coming up. Time to demonize the troops!
ok if this is true you have to admit it is in very poor taste
if they(scout snipers) are dumb enough not to see that then they deserve all the bad press
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Symbols carry messages and anyone who can't understand that either is, or is pretending to be, an idiot.
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Someone please show me where this is used as the Marine Sniper School symbol for all these years because I can't find it.
    [image=http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1st-MARINE-DIVISION-SCOUT-SNIPER-SCHOOL-MILITARY-PATCH-/00/$%28KGrHqIOKj!E25kk6dgLBN%29LTNnWUQ~~_35.JPG]
I'm waiting....
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friggin msnbc garbage.
no better than fox news and theres the proof
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I say swastika because their symbol was crossed S's, also called the swastika. They were not two S's side by side. But of course people want to make something out of nothing.
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friggin msnbc garbage.
no better than fox news and theres the proof
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/09/marine-corps-says-snipers-posted-with-nazi-ss-symbol-in-afghanistan/
They posted it sooner that makes them better since it is news.
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Someone please show me where this is used as the Marine Sniper School symbol for all these years because I can't find it.
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I'm waiting....
You said it right in the goddam title.
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No someone else said it has been used for years as if it was established practice, I used the present tense of the verb "making", as in current, and I am asking for some corroboration that a whole bunch of people here are using to defend its current use.
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Oh. I have no idea. I just know it is not what the SS used as a logo. The swastika was. They were called the SS verbally and in print, but the logo was always a swastika.
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Honestly with the amount of imagination and artistry possible in the world, for a MILITARY group, no less, to use a symbol that is straight up so similar to one used by the Nazis is just plain stupid.
Seriously, nobody could come up with something better? Hell, all the ones Hyper posted are 10x better than that one, for starters.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
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Info on the second one: HOG picture drawn by USMC Scout Sniper and used everywhere in the community and at the school.
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Ibbeh posted:
Thank you, you just made my case for the association with the SS
The Feldgendarmerie of the Waffen-SS had a nickname - "Kopf Jäger" or "Head Hunters". The name was an obvious referral to the SS "Totenkopf" (Death's Head) skull emblem embroidered on the front of their caps.
We see that plainly on what you supplied.
This is a disgusting thing to emulate.
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friggin msnbc garbage.
no better than fox news and theres the proof
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/09/marine-corps-says-snipers-posted-with-nazi-ss-symbol-in-afghanistan/
They posted it sooner that makes them better since it is news.
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You said it baby.
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So all of you that say this has nothing to do with the SS of Germany deserve one of these.
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Kopfjager appears a lot, on lots of different things. It is just a word. Why they wouldn't just use Headhunter is beyond me though.
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Not beyond me, it is clearly intended to emulate the German military principle of one of the most feared despicable military units ever created.
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This also popped up on an image search for kopfjager
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Oh. I have no idea. I just know it is not what the SS used as a logo. The swastika was. They were called the SS verbally and in print, but the logo was always a swastika.
They didn't use it as a logo 
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Well, maybe they did.
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Well, maybe they did.
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And Gene for one, is one of the biggest jews you will ever meet. I guess he is a nazi too.
Ignorance is bliss, my Dad was not in Kiss he was in the Marines in WWII, and I am pretty sure he would not appreciate seeing some of his fellow Marines using that symbol.n Nor I believe would any WWII veterans that I have known over the years.
Yes and I am trying to give the youth of today the benefit of the doubt, ignorance, about not disrespecting your Dad. Maybe it was Kiss inspired, who knows, it is hard to believe they would intentionally dis our elders. At least I hope not.
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Its not used at the school... no one ever said it was. However, it is commonly used among Marine Snipers across all divisions and battalions. I know the snipers who served under me in Fallujah used the symbol.
As far as the head hunter in german reference... If you knew jack profanity about the Marine's you'd know we use ALOT of german nicknames. We are very very very proud of the nicknames the germans gave to us. Btw, did you know what the Germans called Marine snipers during WWII? That's right... Kopf Jager, because our snipers almost always scored a headshot.
Seriously, before you go and start bashing on us... take some time to educate your god damn self. You live in Hawaii, find a Marine and ask him about the Corps history instead of just being the ignorant jackass that you are.
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what is with all the negative connotation of german words that remind me of waffles and pretzels
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Its not used at the school... no one ever said it was. However, it is commonly used among Marine Snipers across all divisions and battalions. I know the snipers who served under me in Fallujah used the symbol.
As far as the head hunter in german reference... If you knew jack profanity about the Marine's you'd know we use ALOT of german nicknames. We are very very very proud of the nicknames the germans gave to us. Btw, did you know what the Germans called Marine snipers during WWII? That's right... Kopf Jager, because our snipers almost always scored a headshot.
Seriously, before you go and start bashing on us... take some time to educate your god damn self. You live in Hawaii, find a Marine and ask him about the Corps history instead of just being the ignorant jackass that you are.
My father was an old school Marine who joined the Marines in 1938, and my mother's side of the family fought in the resistance in WWII in Europe, my Grandfather's brother was tortured to death by the SS. I am well aware of marine tradition and I think a Marine who willingly uses a Nazi symbol as a point of pride is an asshole.
Anyone who knowingly emulates these symbols of Nazi Germany should be dishonorably discharged from the US armed forces, for they dishonor the millions who died in WWII defending freedom.
The SS were the worst of the lot and the use of their symbol is a disgrace. There are plenty of WWII veterans who agree with me, and hopefully though they are old their voices will be heard.
As far s you go, I have nothing but revulsion, for you defend a creed of murdering monsters, by honoring their symbol.
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Well, maybe they're trying to trivialize the Nazi logo by making it their own. There's a lot to be said for that tactic. I also do not have trouble with people flying the Rebel flag. It's done as a matter of pride for the south, not for hatred. Yet, people still get up in arms about that too. And I am about as unracist as I can be.
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Well, maybe they're trying to trivialize the Nazi logo by making it their own. There's a lot to be said for that tactic. I also do not have trouble with people flying the Rebel flag. It's done as a matter of pride for the south, not for hatred. Yet, people still get up in arms about that too. And I am about as unracist as I can be.
Don't be an idiot while the rebel flag is not always used for racist connotations it is often used for such though not overt.
As for the rest of you who want to say no, no, States rights, Southern Freedom.
I say bull crap, I won't pretend to be stupid while you parade around with your symbol meant to piss off black people and the others who would rather not remind black people that they were slaves and we had to fight a war to change that.
Oh and as far as the CIvil War not being about slavery, you are full of crap their too.
I have provided the evidence more than enough times, if you need it again I will at most google and link another thread, for trying to change the mind of people who wish to suspend logic is an exercise in stupidity in and of itself.
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Its not used at the school... no one ever said it was. However, it is commonly used among Marine Snipers across all divisions and battalions. I know the snipers who served under me in Fallujah used the symbol.
As far as the head hunter in german reference... If you knew jack profanity about the Marine's you'd know we use ALOT of german nicknames. We are very very very proud of the nicknames the germans gave to us. Btw, did you know what the Germans called Marine snipers during WWII? That's right... Kopf Jager, because our snipers almost always scored a headshot.
Seriously, before you go and start bashing on us... take some time to educate your god damn self. You live in Hawaii, find a Marine and ask him about the Corps history instead of just being the ignorant jackass that you are.
My father was an old school Marine who joined the Marines in 1938, and my mother's side of the family fought in the resistance in WWII in Europe, my Grandfather's brother was tortured to death by the SS. I am well aware of marine tradition and I think a Marine who willingly uses a Nazi symbol as a point of pride is an asshole.
Anyone who knowingly emulates these symbols of Nazi Germany should be dishonorably discharged from the US armed forces, for they dishonor the millions who died in WWII defending freedom.
The SS were the worst of the lot and the use of their symbol is a disgrace. There are plenty of WWII veterans who agree with me, and hopefully though they are old their voices will be heard.
As far s you go, I have nothing but revulsion, for you defend a creed of murdering monsters, by honoring their symbol.
You and your dad didn't talk much did you? If you did you might have a clue. But since this is just another ignorant troll thread, I'll take my Teufel Hunden self, and be on my way.
Oh since we are spouting out family lineage... My great grandfather fought for the U.S Navy in WWI, his brother was an officer in the German Panzer division. I'm proud of both because both fought to defend their family and country.
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Whatever Nazilover.
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News Flash: Hyper can read minds and knows you intent! LOL, Hurry, get him in the diplomatic services!
Go smoke a doobie buddy, you are stressing out. It's only racist when someone makes it racist.
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Right, burning a cross and wearing sheets isn't racist, just when they do some thing like lynch people now that's racist.
ZEIG HEIL I got it. 
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Right, burning a cross and wearing sheets isn't racist, just when they do some thing like lynch people now that's racist.
ZEIG HEIL I got it.
No, actually that is racist. And there are members also in the north. But the Rebel flag is a far cry from the KKK.
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You know, it's funny. A typical teenager can get his first pickup in the south and decide it would be cool to put a rebel flag in the back glass. And he might have black friends and get along with them just like his white friends. But to an outsider like you he's suddenly racist. And to show you how utterly ignorant you are of the south take a look at the Fort Smith Southside High School. For ever the mascot has been Johnny Reb, the team called the Rebels, and the Rebel Flag flown in honor. I guess that's just a completely racist high school huh? And kids grow up seeing all this and never think of it as racist. You people that didn't grow up in the south sure know how to tell people how to live instead of just STFU and trying to watch and figure things out for yourself. All you need is some other idiot to tell you how to think because you can't do it for yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southside_High_School_%28Fort_Smith,_Arkansas%29
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US Soldiers are also diplomats/representatives to the world
Kind of like world police and awesome globe-trotting cowboys?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2n8XqLn83E
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Right, burning a cross and wearing sheets isn't racist, just when they do some thing like lynch people now that's racist.
ZEIG HEIL I got it. image=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wP1daD1O7Vc/TY_BQ6L2yKI/AAAAAAAABGs/btxJcLPK4ec/s1600/kkk.jpg]
Wtf are you posting Hyptler. I mean Hyper.
Sorry, typo and confusion over that nazi salute you posted in all caps.
That image is pretty racist/offensive too. Why are you parading nazi slogans and KKK imagery all over this thread?
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You know, it's funny. A typical teenager can get his first pickup in the south and decide it would be cool to put a rebel flag in the back glass. And he might have black friends and get along with them just like his white friends. But to an outsider like you he's suddenly racist. And to show you how utterly ignorant you are of the south take a look at the Fort Smith Southside High School. For ever the mascot has been Johnny Reb, the team called the Rebels, and the Rebel Flag flown in honor. I guess that's just a completely racist high school huh? And kids grow up seeing all this and never think of it as racist. You people that didn't grow up in the south sure know how to tell people how to live instead of just STFU and trying to watch and figure things out for yourself. All you need is some other idiot to tell you how to think because you can't do it for yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southside_High_School_%28Fort_Smith,_Arkansas%29
I grew up south of the Mason DIxon line in a city that was 90% or so black.
I spent years going through the south, I remember seeing a town sign, above it a rebel flag and below it another sign which said:
"Don't let the sun set on your ass in this town racial slur" (sorry war stories have to be grahic sometimes)
That was in 1977.
I currently have a black g/f by the way too, not that, that matters any in this conversation.
My junior high was very racist (against whites) I got robbed and beat up all the time by gangs of older black kids, it being 90% black and me being a white 7th grader just after all the riot years.
I spent 4 years inspecting HUD housing in the South, I go to Atlanta and South Carolina even now 4 times a year for a business thing I do.
So please tell me more of my ignorance of the South along with my ignorance of the Marine Corps, my Dad btw died in a VA home on Veterans day, insisting to the day he died that he ate all his meals on his Marine Corps tin plate.
I won't be deliberately stupid for anybody.
The confederate battle flag may not be racist to everybody but it sure as hell is to the majority of black people, and that is good enough for me to consider it racist.
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haha hyper is a gay
Lol, well I am Spartan so some of ancestors had to have been. Hey you dropped your sword.....
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This guy wanted to see my ID using a credit card a few days ago. WTF was his problem, asking me for papers like a nazi. Maybe he was a nazi, or at least a nazilover. I told him as much and then he was mean to me like a nazi would be. It was probably because I'm white.
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This guy wanted to see my ID using a credit card a few days ago. WTF was his problem, asking me for papers like a nazi. Maybe he was a nazi, or at least a nazilover. I told him as much and then he was mean to me like a nazi would be. It was probably because I'm white.
You should sue for double reverse discrimination.
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I don't know who'd take my case. Are there any lawyers that really hate nazis out there?
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is she hot?
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We slaughtered them and took their symbol as a trophy. Works for me. I'm not going to sit here and lecture to the kids we send to do our dirty work...
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The Stars and Bars is nothing more than an American Swastika. People who display it know it, and so do the rest of us. If you have to say you're not a racist, you probably are one.
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Whole lot of stupid on this thread...
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Ibbeh posted:
This also popped up on an image search for kopfjager
I'd jager that girl's Kopf.
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god help me ... i love these threads ....
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"My father was..." means you weren't.
sorry trollboy. you don't get the privilege
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LOL Hyper. As much as Maryland is below the Mason-Dixson line it is certainly not part of the south. I've lived in Baltimore. I know. And nice, I like how you don't hate the US flag but you hate the Reb flag because the KKK used both. And you even said they hijacked it. So I guess then everyone that uses it is KKK.
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HTF do you backwoods racist here ALWAYS turn everything into hating on us.
KKK? I thought this was about nazis.
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You'll have to ask Hyper when he wakes up.
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Images of Buddha sometimes have swastikas painted on his toes. That must mean Buddha hates JEWS!!!
The symbol of the christian cross is offensive to all those people that died in the crusades! We should retire that cross symbol FOREVER!
The Nazi's used the Iron Cross as a war decoration, that must mean everyone associated with building motorcycles is a jew hating nazi!
The Fleur-De-Lis was the emblem of choice for the Bosnians ethnically cleansing the Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian War. That must mean that the Boyscouts (whose emblem is the fleur-de-lis) and Drew Brees (Saints use the same one) support ethnically cleansing Serbs!
You're a hippy, right, Hyper? Well, the very popular Peace symbol was once called "Nero's Cross" (You remember what he did to the Christians, right?), not to mention it was used on the caskets of dead German SS officers. Therefore, any long haired, tree hugging hippy hates Christians, and supports German SS officers in the afterlife. For shame, Hyper. For shame.
They are goddamn symbols you freaking morons. Symbols that all have good associations and bad associations.
I could come up with half a dozen more if I wanted to devote any more of my Friday to you dimwits. 
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regulator_cracka posted:
HTF do you backwoods racist here ALWAYS turn everything into hating on us.
KKK? I thought this was about nazis.
stop pretending to be black, everyone knows you are whiter than my penis
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LOL FYC
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aon_mixed posted:
oh wow, a lightning bolt now THE VERY THING THAT COMES FROM THE SKY is now a forever eternal symbol of jewicidie... get teh fsck outa here
lol!
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FineYoungCannibals posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
HTF do you backwoods racist here ALWAYS turn everything into hating on us.
KKK? I thought this was about nazis.
stop pretending to be black, everyone knows you are whiter than my penis
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First it was just a logo and has nothing to do with the Nazi's, then it was ok it is, and so what, do you know.
What I know is that it was wrong to begin with and the Marines defending of a stupidity results in me for the first time since the Vietnam War, in thinking less of the US Marines.
The case I made in the op, it is effing stupid to emulate the SS of Nazi Germany, is true regardless of all the defense of stupidity.
I won't bother belaboring any further suffice to say, we have a difference of opinion when it comes to honoring those who died to stop tyranny vs. those who consider it honorable to emulate those whom we defeated.
What next the swastika itself?
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Hyperimiator posted:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10364262-marines-posed-with-flag-resembling-nazi-ss-logo-in-afghanistan
So effing stupid.
The US Marines stopped being a symbol for Moral Authority a long time ago.
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Only Hyper could troll this hard for this many replies and not even troll anyone.
ACF's resident failtroll.
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The funny thing is, if Hyper had not posted this here I would have never known how they have been dishonoring the USMC. Nevermind that they have not gassed any groups of people.
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SMEPR FIE!!!!
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Anyone who has ever taken a photo with a peace symbol supports the Nazis.
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Anyone who has ever taken a photo with a peace symbol supports the Nazis.
Proof it.
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JD_HOGG posted:
TheUnholyGhost posted:
Anyone who has ever taken a photo with a peace symbol supports the Nazis.
Proof it.
I'VE SEARCHED GOOGLE AND FOUND NO PICTURES!!
I'm waiting.....
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TheUnholyGhost posted:
Images of Buddha sometimes have swastikas painted on his toes. That must mean Buddha hates JEWS!!!
The symbol of the christian cross is offensive to all those people that died in the crusades! We should retire that cross symbol FOREVER!
The Nazi's used the Iron Cross as a war decoration, that must mean everyone associated with building motorcycles is a jew hating nazi!
The Fleur-De-Lis was the emblem of choice for the Bosnians ethnically cleansing the Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian War. That must mean that the Boyscouts (whose emblem is the fleur-de-lis) and Drew Brees (Saints use the same one) support ethnically cleansing Serbs!
You're a hippy, right, Hyper? Well, the very popular Peace symbol was once called "Nero's Cross" (You remember what he did to the Christians, right?), not to mention it was used on the caskets of dead German SS officers. Therefore, any long haired, tree hugging hippy hates Christians, and supports German SS officers in the afterlife. For shame, Hyper. For shame.
They are goddamn symbols you freaking morons. Symbols that all have good associations and bad associations.
I could come up with half a dozen more if I wanted to devote any more of my Friday to you dimwits.
Well you'd have to show more examples because you haven't proved any point. All you've done is used slippery slope arguments and compared apples to oranges.
The Buddhists used the Swastika first, and it is very obvious when it is being used for religion reasons. It is still completely unacceptable to use the Swastika in many other situations. I guess you'd approve of a US military department using a Nazi Swastika for their symbol?
The Christian Cross and Fleur-de-Lis in no way originated, nor are defined by, the examples you gave. They were used ubiquitously for a very long time. Using them as an example is absolutely retarded, like saying the eagle is a Nazi symbol(yes they used eagles). Same for the Iron Cross, even if not as rampantly used, it was invented in the 1200s and used at various times before the Third Reich.
When were the double stylized sig runes used before the SS? Oh yeah, no where. Your comparisons are retarded. All you are arguing is that symbols have no associative meaning, and where they emerge from is irrelevant, but anyone with an ounce of sense knows otherwise.
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FineYoungCannibals posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
HTF do you backwoods racist here ALWAYS turn everything into hating on us.
KKK? I thought this was about nazis.
stop pretending to be black, everyone knows you are whiter than my penis
Do you have an enlarged view, it is tough to see that little thing.
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nazis should be shot.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
"My father was..." means you weren't.
sorry trollboy. you don't get the privilege
Well that would be in line with fascist thinking, silence the critics, so do I wear a peace sign on my lapel, so you can identify me easier for the death camps.
I mean why not the SS was so cool and all, it was one of their favorite pastimes.
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People try to silence me in real life all the time, I get to defend my position next week during a public hearing, again called by Govt officials due to the critical nature of my report on their authorized activities.
It seems like the logical next step, not being able to criticize politicians unless you are one.
I don't hate the marines or any of the armed forces, I merely said it was effing stupid, and I won't defend stupidity.
Seems pretty simple huh.
Oh and BTW shut up Kah, don't ruin a good thing for me.
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Hyperimiator posted:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10364262-marines-posed-with-flag-resembling-nazi-ss-logo-in-afghanist an
So effing stupid.
The US Marines stopped being a symbol for Moral Authority a long time ago.
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Mangler_SC posted:
Nazi Germany had the coolest military uniforms in history.
Absolutely. Us Germans looooove a uniform too.
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