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Because he did not want the military to waste time being jailers. Obama continues to keep Gitmo open. AWKWARD 
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yeah right.
If Rummy wanted to do that it was so he could turn them over to people who could torture without that pesky constitution getting in the way.
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I think most politicians would like to close it. The reality of the situation has proven that none of them have the cajones to do so.
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Moe_Nox posted:
Because he did not want the military to waste time being jailers. Obama continues to keep Gitmo open. AWKWARD
Typical uniformed, independent, idiot. Oh, and a Gingrich supporter. 
CNN posted:
Obama signs order to close Guantanamo Bay facility
Promising to return America to the "moral high ground" in the war on terrorism, President Obama issued three executive orders Thursday to demonstrate a clean break from the Bush administration, including one requiring that the Guantanamo Bay detention facility be closed within a year.
During a signing ceremony at the White House, Obama reaffirmed his inauguration pledge that the United States does not have "to continue with a false choice between our safety and our ideals."
The president said he was issuing the order to close the facility in order to "restore the standards of due process and the core constitutional values that have made this country great even in the midst of war, even in dealing with terrorism."
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A second executive order formally bans torture by requiring that the Army field manual be used as the guide for terrorism interrogations. That essentially ends the Bush administration's CIA program of enhanced interrogation methods.
"We believe that the Army field manual reflects the best judgment of our military, that we can abide by a rule that says we don't torture, but that we can still effectively obtain the intelligence that we need," Obama said."This is me following through ... on an understanding that dates back to our founding fathers, that we are willing to observe core standards of conduct not just when it's easy but also when it's hard."
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Moe_Nox
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2013? He campaigned on it in 2008. Lemme know when they turn the lights out.
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2013? He campaigned on it in 2008. Lemme know when they turn the lights out.
Huh?
More like two days after he was inaugurated but you were in the same century at least.
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Wow dude, stop embarrassing yourself and go get up to speed on your soapbox material. 
article posted:
Unclear if Guantanamo prison closed by 2013: Holder
"I don't know," Holder told a House of Representatives appropriations subcommittee. "We will do all that we can."
Holder declined to offer any new details about plans on how the administration will prosecute terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay prison, but he said repeatedly that the administration still planned to close the facility.
Tue Mar 1, 2011
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/01/us-guantanamo-closure-idUSTRE72053L20110301
Thats two years after your article. Now its currently 3 years.
Is it closed yet?
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No, it's still open. Unlike your mind!
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Gitmo should be kept open.
So we can load it up with politicians, bureaucrats, central bankers, lobbyists and Wall Street vermin.
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Your ignorance and stupidity is spectacular.
MSNBC posted:
WASHINGTON — In a rare, bipartisan defeat for President Barack Obama, the Senate voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay open for the foreseeable future and forbid the transfer of any detainees to facilities in the United States.
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Say just a few posts earlier you were heralding Obama's signature to close Gitmo.
Then I said Gitmo remains open, noob.
and then you counter with: "but but but..  "
Gitmo remains open. Obama lied and liberals cried!
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Because he did not want the military to waste time being jailers. Obama continues to keep Gitmo open. AWKWARD
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You got owned Moe, stop being a retart.
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ZigmundZag posted:
I think most politicians would like to close it. The reality of the situation has proven that none of them have the cajones to do so.
Give them military trials or let them go! If they commit crimes when let go then kill them in the battlefield
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I missed AT thinking that Gitmo is closed as well.
"yeah yeah its not closed yet, but Obama so really wishes that maybe he could close it some how. Some way!"
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1) Obama is against jailing enemy combatants so instead of capturing and holding them without trial indefinitely, he's shifted policy to just outright killing them. This is reflected in his attempts to close Gitmo, his drastic increase of the drone programs, his emphasis on Special Forces (Biden's pet strategy), the execution of the Pirate Hostage takers, the execution of bin Laden.
2) When he came into office he was adamantly opposed to Gitmo remaining open. He either was unable to close it, or he changed his mind.
If he was unable to close it, this is not the fault of Obama. People against Gitmo were still right to vote for him. He championed the cause the best he could but was thwarted. We don't have kings in America, so if it's an issue you feel strongly about, you should vote accordingly, not just for President but for Congress as well.
If he changed his mind, that tells me something about the issue, not Obama. It seems like he took a politically weaker stance by not closing it down because it pisses off his base and arms his opponents with claims of his impotence. So I don't think he was motivated by politics to change his mind. What, then? I'm guessing it would probably be that he's privy to information he hadn't had before he took office.
So for me, who doesn't have much stock in Gitmo closing, it makes sense that we should be shutting it down, but only after it's feasible. I'd rather suffer "moral" harm to the country than physical.
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Obama doesnt have the balls to close it. Release them and then close them realizing many of them will fight hte US and its allies again. To do the right thing is often tough
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Oh wow, that's really dumb and on a list of "Right Things To Do" shows up somewhere between putting your computer in the microwave and summoning the dark lord because, hey, it's 2012.
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Well now that the government can just disappear and murder Americans when it wants to, having Gitmo is probably redundant.
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The Bush administrations was like afterbirth rotting in the sun too long 
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He didnt close it and neither did Obama
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