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will be epic.
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I don't understand why. Isn't it about a forgone conclusion he is going to win? Am I missing something?
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You might be mistaken, most people consider it inevitable no matter what side they are on.
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Unlikely. Republicans are already busy handicapping themselves so they'll have an excuse.
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All the rl Republicans I know, watch FOX NEWS and none of them think Obama is going to be re elected. They totally believe he is the worst president ever.
It will defiantly be a rude awaking for them 
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A continuation of non change is supposed to be surprising? 
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There will be change, I'll bet Obama can get the deficit up over $25 trillion before he leaves office.
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There will be change, I'll bet Obama can get the deficit up over $25 trillion before he leaves office.
I'm not sure that qualifies as change. You would have to extrapolate the debt increase curve to figure it out.
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The right has been melting down ever since he got elected. Not sure if they will melt down even more when he gets re-elected. All the finger pointing will be fun to watch, though.
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He IS a horrible President. God-awful.
I will be  if he DOESN'T get re-elected.
(maybe it's just cynicism)
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Won't matter, just be more of the same regardless of who wins, so why cry? 
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_Enkidu_ posted:
Won't matter, just be more of the same regardless of who wins, so why cry?
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Probably not
It's funny seeing the enlightened "liberals" on this board cheerlead for someone who has more or less executed the exact same policies as W
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What are you seeing has less to do with national politics and more to do with Outpost history.
2005 was a tough year to be a liberal on the OP. But the wheel turns 
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I am just glad that everyone on the Outpost is smarter and more special than everyone else and know so much more than everyone else, and is just that special brand of special snowflake no one else could ever be.
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I am just glad that everyone on the Outpost is smarter and more special than everyone else and know so much more than everyone else, and is just that special brand of special snowflake no one else could ever be.
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Friarspam posted:
He IS a horrible President. God-awful.
I will be if he DOESN'T get re-elected.
(maybe it's just cynicism)
"Stock market reaches highest level since nation's financial crisis
By Peter Schroeder - 02/03/12 04:40 PM ET
Boosted by a strong jobs report, the stock market climbed Friday to heights not seen since the beginning of the financial crisis.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed Friday up nearly 160 points, or 1.25 percent, reaching its highest level since May 2008. The NASDAQ jumped to its highest point since 2000, climbing 46 points or 1.61 percent.
The stock market spike came as new government data indicated the economy, in particular the job market, may be gaining ground quicker than previously expected."
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/208631-stock-market-reaches-highest-level-since-financial-crisis
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_Enkidu_ posted:
Won't matter, just be more of the same regardless of who wins, so why cry?
This.
And in this vein, as for being the worst president ever, sure, Obama is the worst president ever. I can tell you that unless a lot of things change in America, the only president that will be worse than Obama will be the next one elected after Obama's 2nd term.
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Tych2 posted:
I don't understand why. Isn't it about a forgone conclusion he is going to win? Am I missing something?
Not really, you're not missing anything.
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Cawlin posted:
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Won't matter, just be more of the same regardless of who wins, so why cry?
This.
And in this vein, as for being the worst president ever, sure, Obama is black. I can tell you that unless a lot of things change in America, the only president that will be worse than Obama will be the next one elected after Obama's 2nd term.
I always laugh when republicans think obama is so horrible... giving payroll tax cuts, extending record low tax rates, policies that favor to the right, keeping the military industrial complex going by staying in afghanistan and being involved in the middle east heavily still, etc.
if those things are so horrible, then you need to come out of the liberal closet, my friend.
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will be epic.
Yes people will be ecstatic over GWB's 4th term
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Akza posted:
Cawlin posted:
_Enkidu_ posted:
Won't matter, just be more of the same regardless of who wins, so why cry?
This.
And in this vein, as for being the worst president ever, sure, Obama is black. I can tell you that unless a lot of things change in America, the only president that will be worse than Obama will be the next one elected after Obama's 2nd term.
I always laugh when republicans think obama is so horrible... giving payroll tax cuts, extending record low tax rates, policies that favor to the right, keeping the military industrial complex going by staying in afghanistan and being involved in the middle east heavily still, etc.
if those things are so horrible, then you need to come out of the liberal closet, my friend.
The surest sign of having a trait is seeking it out in others' words or actions and when it's not there, falsely attributing it to them anyway. My remarks about Obama have nothing at all to do with his skin color, yet you assume that whenever I or anyone else criticizes him, it's because he has dark skin. I think this must be because you cannot see beyond such superficial things and for you, the world is drawn along the lines of skin color. At least you should be honest about it and just be open about your racism like dae_trist, orwyn and a few others around here.
Obama is the worst president ever because he has simply continued and worsened the policies which put fewer and fewer individuals in control of America and the world's economy. Unless massive changes occur in America, the next president will do the same, which will make him even worse than Obama.
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Its amusing to the point of retarded, the reaching that libs are doing to paint Obama as the underdog in this election.
The amount of meltdowns should be equal in proportion to the amount of hope and change.
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The surest sign of having a trait is seeking it out in others' words or actions and when it's not there, falsely attributing it to them anyway. My remarks about Obama have nothing at all to do with his skin color, yet you assume that whenever I or anyone else criticizes him, it's because he has dark skin. I think this must be because you cannot see beyond such superficial things and for you, the world is drawn along the lines of skin color. At least you should be honest about it and just be open about your racism like dae_trist, orwyn and a few others around here.
Obama is the worst president ever because he has simply continued and worsened the policies which put fewer and fewer individuals in control of America and the world's economy. Unless massive changes occur in America, the next president will do the same, which will make him even worse than Obama.
Akza is just having an imaginary conversation with himself. It goes down well with people who are equally stupid.
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I laugh every time I see someone here post that Obama is just like Bush. How much fucking crack have you been smoking? I know most of you are disaffected and butthurt RWN's who are dejected that your guy sucked so bad and now your only ammo is to act like the current guys sucks just as much....but it's a fricken pathetic ploy that only fools would believe. (and a few liberals mad because they aren't getting everything right now)
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Just off the top of my damn head. If you think Obama is the same as the far right, nut bag, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, Luddite, American Taliban shit head who came before him and the ones on the right in Congress obstructing every damn thing for the past 3 years.....you are an idiot.
Stop repeating stupid talking points and start thinking. Sure, Obama isn't a liberal....but he sure is a hell of a lot better than any Republican currently in any office anywhere.
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the reaching that libs are doing to paint Obama as the underdog in this election.
You live in a world of Republican stooge delusion. Democrats are very confident in Obama's win. How can they not, considering the pathetic offerings of Gingrich, Santorum, and Romney? 
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It could be because Obama announced he was the underdog this election on ABC news.
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All the rl Republicans I know, watch FOX NEWS and none of them think Obama is going to be re elected. They totally believe he is the worst president ever.
It is amazing how, while being plugged into such a font of misinformation, these souls are still able to arrive at the correct conclusion.
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I laugh every time I see someone here post that Obama is just like Bush. How much fucking crack have you been smoking? I know most of you are disaffected and butthurt RWN's who are dejected that your guy sucked so bad and now your only ammo is to act like the current guys sucks just as much....but it's a fricken pathetic ploy that only fools would believe. (and a few liberals mad because they aren't getting everything right now)
Health Care Reform
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Stimulus package for people (not banks like your guy was only in favor of)
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Got OBL after he did hide for close to 8 years under that Bush guy
Embryonic Stem cell funding
Ended CIA torture policy
Gave benefits to same sex partners of federal employees.
Ended the global gag rule for humanitarian organizations that receive US funding
Reversed the ban on media coverage of the return of remains from fallen soldiers
Just off the top of my damn head. If you think Obama is the same as the far right, nut bag, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, Luddite, American Taliban shit head who came before him and the ones on the right in Congress obstructing every damn thing for the past 3 years.....you are an idiot.
Stop repeating stupid talking points and start thinking. Sure, Obama isn't a liberal....but he sure is a hell of a lot better than any Republican currently in any office anywhere.
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It could be because Obama announced he was the underdog this election on ABC news.
I concede that this was an inaccurate statement; however, I also hold it does not reflect the opinion of Democrats at large. Obama is obviously going to win.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
IMHO posted:
All the rl Republicans I know, watch FOX NEWS and none of them think Obama is going to be re elected. They totally believe he is the worst president ever.
It is amazing how, while being plugged into such a font of misinformation, these souls are still able to arrive at the correct conclusion.
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Rosaria posted:
It could be because Obama announced he was the underdog this election on ABC news.
I concede that this was an inaccurate statement; however, I also hold it does not reflect the opinion of Democrats at large. Obama is obviously going to win.
Obama made this statement as a bit of a hedging strategy - may as well get the guilt machines running just to be sure...
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You live in a world of Republican stooge delusion.
I was speaking of the back and forth here. If you are putting forth that you guys are republican stooges.. well ok
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I was speaking of the back and forth here.
What "back and forth"? No one above your post suggested that they believe that Obama is the 'Underdog'.
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Friarspam posted:
He IS a horrible President. God-awful.
I will be if he DOESN'T get re-elected.
(maybe it's just cynicism)
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The stock market spike came as new government data indicated the economy, in particular the job market, may be gaining ground quicker than previously expected."
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/208631-stock-market-reaches-highest-level-since-financial-crisis
This statement is pure gold. The gov't has been saying for 3 years now that "we are rebounding now!@!". Then a month later its "Well..we have had some stallings". Rinse repeat for 3 years.
"Quicker than expected" by whom and in what time frame? The last 30 days?
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The economy has actually been recovering in a way that has been relatively consistant with other recoveries just slower, which also makes sense given the size of the recession and the fundamental problems facing our country.
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Absolutely. I agree.
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So Obama is the cause of the structural problems in our economy?
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
So Obama is the cause of the structural problems in our economy?
I was just agreeing with IMHO. 
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Rosaria posted:
I was just agreeing with IMHO.
Well that is a rather horrible defense.
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Rosaria posted:
I was just agreeing with IMHO.
Well that is a rather horrible defense.
Defense of what? I'm just trying to be amiable and go with the flow.
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Rosaria posted:
I was just agreeing with IMHO.
Well that is a rather horrible defense.
Wait.. wut??
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I've been saying that Obama was going to get re-elected easily for years. Right wingers used to laugh at my derangement. Now that it's obvious what a clusterfrack the Republican Party has become, the right is trying to pretend that Obama's re-election was always in the cards and has nothing to do with the pathetic Republican Party.
Any competent opponent should be able to beat a sitting President when unemployment is so high and when his approval ratings are so low and whose base isn't exactly thrilled with how he's ignored them.
A candidate like, say, Bloomberg, with the full support of Republicans, could have beaten Obama, but the radical Republican base would never, ever, ever, vote for a moderate Republican. The MSM tries to pretend Romney is a moderate and maybe he used to be when it was convenient for him, but, his pandering to the right has done him no good at all. The right doesn't trust him and moderates are turned off by the pandering. Doesn't help that he is even a worse campaigner than Kerry...words I never thought I would utter.
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In all honesty, at this point does it really matter who is elected?
Obama will be in term for another 4 years. It is what it is.
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