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Topic: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)

Groooovechampion Posts: 4,616 Registered: Jun 30, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,485 User ID: 818,115	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	Hi guys Sorry to come with this naive question, but I've been reading books and stuff and this question just keeps swarming in my cabeza. Somewhere, I am having the genuine opportunity of learning C++ thorougly and there is more or less the opportunity of taking Java along. However, I'm totally lost on just where Java is used and if this is actually "attractive" whenever applying for a job in the game industry. I understand that C++ alone is a big one, yet it is the foundation for getting into the programming world. I'm just lost with what Java can do. Is it just "yet another software development tool/language" or also a mere essential piece of know-how? Thanks -----signature----- DaoC, WoW (retired, inactive); WAR (semi active), EVE (active) "Ye'know, com'on! Giimmeee di Ke$$$HHHHHH!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OADJl-CVDo0
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Renegade. Title: Hate the player, not the game Posts: 1,672 Registered: May 7, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,670 User ID: 1,295,376	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	portable and potent can almost run on any platform, easy to learn with any c/c++ experience as the syntax is identical. I could be wrong however that is my understanding of it -----signature----- Roses are #FF0000 , Violets are #0000FF All my base belongs to you
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Dresler Posts: 3,448 Registered: Oct 22, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,437 User ID: 847,656	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	I'd say learning them both will give you an idea of the pros and cons of using a managed/unmanaged languaged (in terms of memory) as well as the pros and cons of using JIT (just-in-time compilation). Heck, you can even see the pros and cons of single vs. multiple inheritance. Really when it comes down to it the hardest thing to do is create good architectures/designs. While knowing the specifics of a language might be useful the architecture is the important part. Is your design scalable, maintainable, re-usable? Languages are simple to switch between in general (although the dark details may not be). I know many people who can be a code monkey and in general hate them working on my projects if the design for something is being done on the fly. You have to micro-manage what they are doing otherwise you are going to end up with a terrible terrible design. -----signature----- (none)
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Lonestar_1 Posts: 4,224 Registered: Aug 26, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,775 User ID: 960,112	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	^^ So true. Off the top of my head I would say web based stuff or maybe some of the Java ME. It is also generally easier to port. So could run it on many devices faster or with less number of device testing. Easier coding and light games performance would be fine. I could not see someone doing it for a fully 3d game of battlefield quality or something. I know there was a port of Quake2 somewhere to java. -----signature----- http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/display.php?user=lonestarr 3500+ solo kills & Lone Enforcer WAR - IronRock Dest- Energist, Moogabooga SWTOR - KV - Energist, Moogabooga
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	AMEN on learning design theory. The language itself is moot, although you are right, C++ tends to be the starting place for most that go through formal education. I'm not a huge java fan personally, but then again, while I know my fair share of C++, I tend to use web languages on a regular basis given I work for a cloud provider. What are games generally programmed in (I honestly don't know - Google)? Learn those languages if that is what you wish to do. -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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Groooovechampion Posts: 4,616 Registered: Jun 30, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,485 User ID: 818,115	Subject: What's the use of Java? (more in a game development sense)
	thanks a lot Yeah, been doing some research. Sounds like Minecraft was also done in java. (and I haven't even played it yet ) Not like I'm going to become some uberprogrammer, but like many throughout the globe, was just wondering. Anyhow, it looks like I will focus on C++ mainly first, then snoop on Java, then the html stuff like PHP/Javascript etc. Long road but sounds like fun. -----signature----- DaoC, WoW (retired, inactive); WAR (semi active), EVE (active) "Ye'know, com'on! Giimmeee di Ke$$$HHHHHH!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OADJl-CVDo0
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